ABR sound pretty mainstream to me.

They really aren't too mainstream, compared to their peers at least. Ppl who get tired of listening to Rise Records bands "graduate" to ABR. And eventually those noobs will get introduced to better metalcore bands than ABR and dismiss them or Abr becomes their nostalgic band. One's musical evolution.

backed

I disagree, I know plenty of noobs who's first foray into metalcore is **** like ABR, Haste the Day, Zao, etc...gtfo.

You gotta understand, these kids aren't from PA.

lol true.

I'm so spoiled with ABR live shows. They're so good live, seriously.

Whenever they come on it's time to go outside and smoke a blunt tbh.

You don't even go to shows. :o

[QUOTE=HighandDriving;17947191]They really aren't too mainstream, compared to their peers at least. Ppl who get tired of listening to Rise Records bands "graduate" to ABR. And eventually those noobs will get introduced to better metalcore bands than ABR and dismiss them or Abr becomes their nostalgic band. One's musical evolution.[/QUOTE]

I think this explains it. Well done sir.

Back in the day, son.

EDIT: @ mappys

Oh, well back in the day they weren't that good, in fact they were pretty sloppy, and Jon and Josh both used to lose their voices all the time.

Even if I saw them now I still wouldn't give a ****.

I think you'd be surprised mang.

Actually no, you're too opinionated. :p

I'd just stand in the back with my ARMSxCROSSED.

and i'd crowdxpunch you :p

And then I'd DATExRAPE you.

noooooooooo :(

You might want to pre-lube. Js.

I'd see ABR live. Wouldn't bother with them headlining though, they'd have to be supporting someone baller.