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Led-ZeppelinIV 03-05-2006 09:08 PM

[QUOTE=Lunch]Essential albums:
The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
The Who - Live at Leeds (best rock 'n roll ever)
The Grateful Dead - American Beauty
Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited
Pink Floyd - Meddle
Led Zeppelin - I
The Allman Brothers - Live at the Fillmore East
The Doors - The Doors
Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young - Deja Vu
Cream-Disraeli Gears
Jimi Hendrix-Are You Experienced?
[/QUOTE]

Fixed.

Led-ZeppelinIV 03-05-2006 09:09 PM

[QUOTE=PinkFreud]You're wrong on both counts. I'm sorry to be harsh but you are. An argument could be made for CCR, though not a very strong one, but AC/DC has nothing going for them.[/QUOTE]
Well that's your opinion and I guess we'll have to agree to disagree :p

Jacaranda 03-05-2006 09:11 PM

Well I thought this was going to be a first post, I don't think anyone here needs to get into the genre so wouldn't it be more to steer people into the right direction of Classic Rock? I definatly don't like ACDC what so ever. But anyway an opinion filled "Essential" list will just be favorite artists.
[QUOTE]The Grateful Dead - American Beauty
Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited
Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
Led Zeppelin - I
The Allman Brothers - Live at the Fillmore East[/QUOTE]
Agree'd
The Rolling Stones - Exile on Main Street
Rush - 2112
The Beatles - Sgt. Peppers etc...
Velvet Underground - S/T
The Clash - London Calling
The Stooges - Raw Power
The Doors - S/T
The Kinks - Village Green
Jimi Hendrix - Are You Experianced?
Yes - Close to the Edge
King Crimson - ItCoTCK

I think some people are confusing favorite album to essential. No way in hell anyone is going to tell me Meddle is more essential the DSotM. Almost every Post-65 Beatles album can be called essential.

PinkFreud 03-05-2006 09:11 PM

Well, try to make your argument. I'm honestly interested to hear/read it.

Edit: That was to Led-Zeppelin guy.

robo2448 03-05-2006 09:14 PM

Essential albums:
The Beatles - Abbey Road
The Who - Live At Leeds (Deluxe Edition)
The Grateful Dead - Workingman's Dead
Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited
Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
Led Zeppelin - II
The Allman Brothers - Live At Filmore East
Bruce Springsteen- Born to Run
Cream- Disraeli Gears
CSNY- Deja Vu
Derek and the Dominos- Layla and Other Assorted Love Song
George Harrison- All Things Must Pass
Jefferson Airplane- Surrealistic Pillow
Jimi Hendrix- Are You Experienced?
John Lennon- Plastic Ono Band
John Mayall- Bluesbreakers With Eric Clapton
Jeff Beck- Blow by Blow
Love- Forever Changes
The Band- Music From Big Pink
The Doors- The Doors
The Kinks- The Village Green Preservation Society
The Rolling Stones- Exile on Main Street
The Velvet Underground- The Velvet Underground & Nico

I'm not good at narrowing things down.

Lunch 03-05-2006 09:16 PM

[QUOTE=Jacaranda]I think some people are confusing favorite album to essential. No way in hell anyone is going to tell me Meddle is more essential the DSotM. Almost every Post-65 Beatles album can be called essential.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. Only one or two of the albums I named are my favorite album from that artist.

Edit: Does anyone here have Van Der Graaf Generator - Pawn Hearts?

Jacaranda 03-05-2006 09:17 PM

[QUOTE]David Bowie- Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars[/QUOTE]
Meh, I have a hard time not being a hypocrite now. I definatly think [I]Hunky Dory[/I] is just as much or more of an essential.

Led-ZeppelinIV 03-05-2006 09:40 PM

[QUOTE=PinkFreud]Well, try to make your argument. I'm honestly interested to hear/read it.

Edit: That was to Led-Zeppelin guy.[/QUOTE]
Are you refering to ACDC, CCR, or Meddle?

God, I'm the king of unpopular opinions.

Scuba_Steve 03-05-2006 09:44 PM

IMO, ACDC shouldn't be on it. Okay band, but really nothing that cool.


However, Dire Straits- Brothers In Arms should DEFINATELY be on there. And how about some T-Rex? awesome band IMO.

Glitterati 03-05-2006 09:48 PM

[QUOTE=DDM]And how about some T-Rex? awesome band IMO.[/QUOTE]

Yes :D one of my favorite bands right now. Electric Warrior is a great album.

PinkFreud 03-05-2006 09:48 PM

[QUOTE=Led-ZeppelinIV]Are you refering to ACDC, CCR, or Meddle?

God, I'm the king of unpopular opinions.[/QUOTE]
Ac/Dc

I just don't think they're legendary. Or deserve their popularity.

Led-ZeppelinIV 03-05-2006 09:49 PM

It's not about how good they are. It's about essential/influential they are. AC/DC has inspired and introduced so much classic rock it doesn't even matter how generic they are.

Scuba_Steve 03-05-2006 09:50 PM

[QUOTE=EightMilesHigh]Yes :D one of my favorite bands right now. Electric Warrior is a great album.[/QUOTE]


I'm more of a S/T man myself.....who could say no to these two handsome devils....

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Led-ZeppelinIV 03-05-2006 09:51 PM

[QUOTE=robo2448]Essential albums:
The Beatles - Abbey Road
The Who - Live At Leeds (Deluxe Edition)
The Grateful Dead - Workingman's Dead
Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited
Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
Led Zeppelin - II
The Allman Brothers - Live At Filmore East
Bruce Springsteen- Born to Run
Cream- Disraeli Gears
CSNY- Deja Vu
Derek and the Dominos- Layla and Other Assorted Love Song
George Harrison- All Things Must Pass
Jefferson Airplane- Surrealistic Pillow
Jimi Hendrix- Are You Experienced?
John Lennon- Plastic Ono Band
John Mayall- Bluesbreakers With Eric Clapton
Jeff Beck- Blow by Blow
Love- Forever Changes
The Band- Music From Big Pink
The Doors- The Doors
The Kinks- The Village Green Preservation Society
The Rolling Stones- Exile on Main Street
The Velvet Underground- The Velvet Underground & Nico

I'm not good at narrowing things down.[/QUOTE]
Jethro Tull-Aqualung

Rams 03-05-2006 09:53 PM

[QUOTE=DDM]IMO, ACDC shouldn't be on it. Okay band, but really nothing that cool.


However, Dire Straits- Brothers In Arms should DEFINATELY be on there. And how about some T-Rex? awesome band IMO.[/QUOTE]

That's like saying Aerosmith should be off while Wings should be on.

Scuba_Steve 03-05-2006 09:54 PM

[QUOTE=Led-ZeppelinIV]It's not about how good they are. It's about essential/influential they are. AC/DC has inspired and introduced so much classic rock it doesn't even matter how generic they are.[/QUOTE]


Ac/Dc released their first international album in 1976.

Not only is this MUCH later than most of the other "big" classic rock band's high points, it also is late enough that there wasn't much classic rock left to influence.

If anything, they may have play a small part in influencing metal bands. But other than that they seemed to get more interest from party crazed frat boys.

Don't get me wrong, they have a few good tunes (well one good tune they changed the lyrics to a couple of times) but they are no where near as godly as people make them out to be.

robo2448 03-05-2006 09:58 PM

[QUOTE=DDM]Ac/Dc released their first international album in 1976.

Not only is this MUCH later than most of the other "big" classic rock band's high points, it also is late enough that there wasn't much classic rock left to influence.

If anything, they may have play a small part in influencing metal bands. But other than that they seemed to get more interest from party crazed frat boys.

Don't get me wrong, they have a few good tunes (well one good tune they changed the lyrics to a couple of times) but they are no where near as godly as people make them out to be.[/QUOTE]

Yeah you pretty much summed it all up. All the bands they've influenced suck. Just completely unoriginal, repetitive hard rock.

On T. Rex and Dire Straits- T. Rex is pretty good though I haven't listened to Electric Warrior enough. Dire Straits is awesome. I used to have a greatest hits but deleted it from my computer by accident. But neither is essential imo.

PinkFreud 03-05-2006 09:59 PM

[QUOTE=Led-ZeppelinIV]It's not about how good they are. It's about [B]essential/influential[/B] they are. AC/DC has inspired and introduced so much classic rock it doesn't even matter how generic they are.[/QUOTE]
I don't think those two words are interchangeable. Essential, in my mind, means necessary. Something has to be GOOD to be necessary. Influential, that's a whole other story. If we were talking influence, we'd have to start drawing lines from whether Led Zeppelin were REALLY influential or whether the Jeff Beck Group is because, while they're not as well known, they heavily influenced Led Zeppelin. Stuff like that.

Led-ZeppelinIV 03-05-2006 10:00 PM

I'm not talking about influencing bands, i'm talking about influencing people to get into classic rock. Who here didn't listen to AC/DC when they were 13?

PinkFreud 03-05-2006 10:02 PM

Me. But then again, I listened to rap. Personally, the Beatles, Simon and Garfunkel, and Bob Dylan got me into classic rock. I never had an Ac/Dc phase.

Edit: Then again, I'm better than most people. :p

robo2448 03-05-2006 10:02 PM

[QUOTE=Led-ZeppelinIV]I'm not talking about influencing bands, i'm talking about influencing people to get into classic rock. Who here didn't listen to AC/DC when they were 13?[/QUOTE]

Me. I still don't. Never liked them or really listened to them at all. They're the rare artist where I admit I've never really given them much of a chance. But yeah, I think everyone else in this thread used to listen to them. But that doesn't make them essential.

Okay, maybe PF didn't either. But PF, aren't you the one who went through a hardcore rap/ Simon and Garfunkel phrase in like 6th grade or something? I remember something like that.

Edit- Oh and I prefer Electric Ladyland by a lot to Are You Experienced. Amazing album. But Are You Experienced was first and just so revolutionary.

Scuba_Steve 03-05-2006 10:03 PM

[QUOTE=robo2448]Yeah you pretty much summed it all up. All the bands they've influenced suck. Just completely unoriginal, repetitive hard rock.

On T. Rex and Dire Straits- T. Rex is pretty good though I haven't listened to Electric Warrior enough. Dire Straits is awesome. I used to have a greatest hits but deleted it from my computer by accident. But neither is essential imo.[/QUOTE]


aye, I didn't think dire straits had much hope.


Also, about jimi hendrix
I think that electric ladyland is by far a better album than are you experienced. It opened up alot of interesting techniques in recording.

Scuba_Steve 03-05-2006 10:04 PM

[QUOTE=Led-ZeppelinIV]I'm not talking about influencing bands, i'm talking about influencing people to get into classic rock. Who here didn't listen to AC/DC when they were 13?[/QUOTE]


as cool as it is that they may be turning kids onto classic rock, those for the most part are the kids that get as far as the beatles, sabbath and led zeppelin and then decide they are musical gods.

PinkFreud 03-05-2006 10:05 PM

It is, but i would say that Are You Experienced? is more essential as an album. It was more revolutionary and influential (hypocrisy for Allen).

Scuba_Steve 03-05-2006 10:07 PM

[QUOTE=PinkFreud]It is, but i would say that Are You Experienced? is more essential as an album. It was more revolutionary and influential (hypocrisy for Allen).[/QUOTE]


I really think that comes down more to opinion. They are both very nice albums, jsut different strokes for different folks.


Oh well, I'm off to bed, 'Nite

Krabsworth 03-05-2006 10:08 PM

I never had an AC/DC phase. I listened to Back In Black for a like a week and then never listened to it much again.

Jacaranda 03-05-2006 10:08 PM

Me neither, but a lot of my friends have.

The Beatles started it all for me, after Jane's Addiction got me into (more) music.

Led-ZeppelinIV 03-05-2006 10:11 PM

[QUOTE=DDM]aye, I didn't think dire straits had much hope.


Also, about jimi hendrix
I think that electric ladyland is by far a better album than are you experienced. It opened up alot of interesting techniques in recording.[/QUOTE]
Agreed, but we're supposed to be talking about what's essential.

Seafroggys 03-05-2006 10:36 PM

i had a Beatles phase that never to this day died down, just made room for more gods....and I still think The Beatles are Gods.

robo2448 03-05-2006 11:01 PM

I'm downloading an album from Chris' site that sounds ridiculously good. Just go there and read the description. It's really long and detailed, excellent writeup. Anyways, he describes them as psychedelic heavy blues like Beck era Yardbirds with a pedal steel guitarist. And Pink Floyd stole their light show from these guys. Can't wait until this album finishes downloading.

The Beatles got me into classic rock. I always loved them. Rubber Soul was the first cd I ever bought, back when I was in like 4th grade or something. And the I really got into The Who after I saw the Simpson's episode with them. Seriously, I'm eternally greatful for that Simpson's episode. I went out and bought one of those crappy 20th century greatest hits cds for the Who the next day. It may have been a ridiculously bad and meager compilation, but it was enough to get me obsessed.

Led-ZeppelinIV 03-05-2006 11:19 PM

What is Chris' site?

And has anybody here ever heard of the band Stained Glass?

SadStairway 03-06-2006 12:01 AM

I downloaded the album Aurora by Stained Glass but havent listened yet.

Led-ZeppelinIV 03-06-2006 12:38 AM

Oh, it's great.

Jacaranda 03-06-2006 07:25 AM

Hey Zeppelin thanks for the Neil Young, don't bother with Live Rust this is good enough Neil Young for now. I gave all of my CD's of his to my friend about a month ago, so I only have [I]Harvest[/I] on my computer.
I'll get out [I]Abbey Road[/I] tonight.

PinkFreud 03-06-2006 01:12 PM

Wow. I think my favorite Dylan song is now "It's Alright Ma (I'm Only Bleeding), replacing "Lily, Rosemary, and The Jack Of Hearts." The lyrics are just so great. And he sings them with such conviction. I think it's a bit better when he focuses on more serious stuff, though it may seem obvious. To start some conversation, what are all of your favorite Dylan songs and lyrics?

Badmoon 03-06-2006 01:22 PM

hmmm, empty thread...

I have today off, Casmir Pulaski day I believe -- a holiday for the local Polish. But I'm not Polish (...:D).

PinkFreud 03-06-2006 01:24 PM

'Tis also a Sufjan Stevens song. Badmoon, do you listen to him? If you do, what are your thoughts?

classic_rock_queen17 03-06-2006 01:32 PM

Youre absolutely right!
 
To BOnzO, youre right. Classic Rock is coming back. Just the other day, I heard, "Cat's in the Cradle" within a rap song and I was amazed. I hate rap just as much as any other rock luvin' person (maybe even more), and, yes, I will listen to a song on BET just to hear ozzy in the backround or Ray Charles. I am a huge fan of classic rock. Hence, the name: Classic_Rock_Queen17. I'm seventeen as well, and the kids at my school are mostly black. I have nothing against black people, I just can't stand rap. And everyone at my school basically listen's to rap. It's sad, I know. I can barely stand even going to school. Most of my old friends, (emphasis on "OLD") now listen to rap. I'm not 'not' friends with them because of that, I just chose not to hand out with them anymore. You grow apart sooner or later. I can't believe how much rap has gotten so popular. It's almost sickening. I hate the videos, the lyrics, the 'beats'. It all SUCKS!!! Classic Rock is COMING BACK, AND I'M LOVING IT!!!

Badmoon 03-06-2006 01:36 PM

[QUOTE=PinkFreud]'Tis also a Sufjan Stevens song. Badmoon, do you listen to him? If you do, what are your thoughts?[/QUOTE]

He's okay; [I]Illinois[/I] doesn't appeal to me that much. "John Wayne Gacy" and some of the other songs are great, but he's kind of annyoing and his music never really goes where I want it to. And when [I]Illinois[/I] came out, I was hoping for more songs regarding Depression-Era Chicago gangsters, but there were none :(

PinkFreud 03-06-2006 01:37 PM

I love "John Wayne Gacy Jr." I think sometimes when i listen to Illinois the songs start to blend together though. Pleasant to have on in the background.


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