[QUOTE=Jacaranda]Why is that funny!?[/QUOTE]
Probably because you are such a Stones fanboy :p

[QUOTE=EightMilesHigh]'Poon: What's wrong with Fleetwood Mac? :([/QUOTE]
Rumours is what's wrong with them. Remember when they were a blues band? I do.

[QUOTE=Jacaranda]You're seriously saying they are an essential Classic Rock band on the same level as the Beatles and Pink Floyd?[/QUOTE]

Well very few bands are as essential as those two. I'm a little more generous with the essential label. Revised list:

Black Sabbath
Bob Dylan
The Band
Bruce Springsteen
The Beach Boys
Cream and Clapton related bands
CCR
Frank Zappa
Jeff Beck
Jefferson Airplane
Jethro Tull
Jimi Hendrix
King Crimson
Led Zeppelin
Neil Young
Pink Floyd
Queen
Simon and Garfunkel
Sly and the Family Stone
Allmans
Beatles (including solo careers)
Doors
Dead
Kinks
Stones
VU
Traffic
The Who

I'm considering cutting Jefferson Airplane, Traffic, Queen, and Sly and the Family Stone. Opinions?

[QUOTE]I'm considering cutting Jefferson Airplane, Traffic, Queen, and Sly and the Family Stone. Opinions?[/QUOTE]
Yes to all.

I'm biting my lip on the list still.
:)

[QUOTE=Jacaranda]Yes to all.

I'm biting my lip on the list still.
:)[/QUOTE]

You're a tough critic:p

Black Sabbath
Bob Dylan
The Band
Bruce Springsteen
The Beach Boys
Cream and Clapton related bands
CCR
Frank Zappa
Jeff Beck
Jethro Tull
Jimi Hendrix
King Crimson
Led Zeppelin
Neil Young
Pink Floyd
Simon and Garfunkel
Allmans
Beatles (including solo careers)
Doors
Dead
Kinks
Stones
VU
The Who

Jethro Tull and Simon and Garfunkel as possible cuts?

[QUOTE=PinkFreud]Rumours is what's wrong with them. Remember when they were a blues band? I do.[/QUOTE]

And they're not essential here, by any means.

Black Sabbath
Bob Dylan
Cream
CCR
Frank Zappa
Jethro Tull
Jimi Hendrix
Led Zeppelin
Neil Young
Pink Floyd
Allmans
Beatles (including solo careers)
Doors
Dead
Kinks
Stones
VU
The Who

I took out who I thought shouldn't be on it.

[QUOTE]Jethro Tull and Simon and Garfunkel as possible cuts?[/QUOTE]
Yes, yes!
I'll just go ahead and tell you what I would leave, just to through out my opinion, if you don't like it through it right back.

Black Sabbath
Bob Dylan
The Beach Boys
Cream
Jimi Hendrix
Led Zeppelin
Pink Floyd
Beatles
Doors
Dead
Stones
VU (Debatable because I personally don't really classify them as CR, even though they are.)
The Who

I know you didn't just take the Allmans off the list.

You [i]are[/i] going down, Jac. Allmans or you. Take your pick.

Black Sabbath
Bob Dylan
The Band
Cream
CCR
Zappa
Beck
Jimi
Zep
Neil
Floyd
Allmans
Beatles
Dead
Stones
VU
Who

jpj list + The Band and Jeff Beck. Sorry, I think they both need to be on the list. But if others disagree I won't have a problem axing them.

[QUOTE=jpj]I know you didn't just take the Allmans off the list.[/QUOTE]
Them and Neil Young were the hardest to cut. I mean don't get me wrong I love them, but I have a hard time calling them essential again. For the record I cannot stand Black Sabbath but I still would call them essential.

[QUOTE]jpj list + The Band and Jeff Beck. Sorry, I think they both need to be on the list. But if others disagree I won't have a problem axing them.[/QUOTE]
Jeff Beck isn't essential, I mean sure he is (opinion) the greatest guitarist, but in my vague definition of essential which is "A band you would give to a kid just getting into music to get him hooked on the genre" I would never give someone Jeff Beck to start off with I'd give him, Jimi Hendrix or Led Zeppelin. And I just flat out don't think the Band are essential if the Byrds aren't.

[QUOTE=Jacaranda]Them and Neil Young were the hardest to cut. I mean don't get me wrong I love them, but I have a hard time calling them essential again. For the record I cannot stand Black Sabbath but I still would callt hem essential.[/QUOTE]

This post just shows so much irreverence, that even the most irreverent (Illmatic?) would not even consider stating it.

This deserves a ban if you ask me. Last I recall, Allman Brothers and Neil Young practically topped the list of our most popular CR artists. Let alone are looked at as huge innovative bands/artists who have spawned various classic albums.

[QUOTE]This deserves a ban if you ask me. Last I recall, Allman Brothers and Neil Young practically topped the list of our most popular CR artists.[/QUOTE]
Just because I'm feeling jivey tonight.

So in that thinking Led Zeppelin is the most essential band?

Meh, I retract my statement on Neil being removed but I'm staying strong on the ABB.
[QUOTE]Let alone are looked at as huge innovative bands/artists who have spawned various classic albums.[/QUOTE]
ACDC are considered to be the greatest band ever (by magizines, and 12 year olds alike) and an innovative band yet they aren't on that list (understandably.)
I mean hate them or love them they are more essential then ABB (Ya I said that. Might be the stupidest statement I've said for along time.) countless kids I know have started playing instruments or started listening to CR because of ACDC.

Allmans and Neil definantly need to be on there.

Okay, I think we should make the list an good round number like 15:

Black Sabbath
Bob Dylan
The Band
Cream
Creedence Clearwater Revival
Jimi Hendrix
Led Zeppelin
Neil Young
Pink Floyd
The Allman Brothers Band
The Beatles
The Grateful Dead
The Rolling Stones
The Velvet Underground
The Who

That's 15. I cut out Beck for the reason you said and Zappa for the same reason. I'm a Band whore so I left them in. But I could take them out if you have a better alternative (maybe The Kinks). 15 seems like a good number to me, so fiddle around with the list to get a 15 essential if you want.

Edit- w00t Liv Tyler's back.

Robo's latest list is pretty good. CCR and The Band are the only one's I'm not sure are essential. As much as I love The Band, they aren't very well known, and weren't [I]that [/I]influential. I don't think?

EDIT: I'd throw Beck back in place of CCR, but keep the Band I guess.

keep Zappa, i think he deserves to be on there.

[QUOTE=magicbus]Robo's latest list is pretty good. CCR and The Band are the only one's I'm not sure are essential. As much as I love The Band, they aren't very well known, and weren't [I]that [/I]influential. I don't think?[/QUOTE]

The Band were very influential. I remember reading an article with Clapton once where he said that they were the very definition of a "band" (no pun intended) with how they all worked together and stuff.

CCR weren't all that influential though. Great, but not really influential. Maybe axe them for the Kinks?

Edit- Beck and Zappa for Band and CCR? Whatever you guys want. Maybe we can do a vote or something?

I don't think CCR really need to be on there, either.

[QUOTE=robo2448]The Band were very influential. I remember reading an article with Clapton once where he said that they were the very definition of a "band" (no pun intended) with how they all worked together and stuff.

CCR weren't all that influential though. Great, but not really influential. Maybe axe them for the Kinks?

Edit- Beck and Zappa for Band and CCR? Whatever you guys want. Maybe we can do a vote or something?[/QUOTE]

Yea Clapton was the first thing that came to mind when I thought of their influence, but I couldn't think of much more. Just disregard that comment I suppose. I'd like to keep The Band, Zappa, and Beck, but that might not work out.

The Band are no more influential then bands like say Deep Purple or the Byrds.

I'd like to interrupt by asking Schyma, if you are reading this, to come back. Don't leave like this. Please. I respected you a lot, and this is stupid.

Anyway, all the bands sound good to me pretty much...

I'd put the Doors s/t in essential albums.

Beck could be left up there. He had a ton of influence. He opened the doors for instrumental rock, progressed the guitar further than his contemporaries, and he set the template for metal. Or I'm just a fanboy. Take your pick.

If we are talking about influential don't forget about Chuck Berry, Bo Diddley and countless other blues artists.

Why are we making an essential list anyway? We could just make a list of great CR bands/artists , since it's unlikely the essential artist list will help anyone out. Most if not all music fans know that the Beatles and Led Zeppelin (etc.) are the "essential" classic rock groups, so making a list of them doesn't contribute very much, I think.

Listing albums, on the other hand, will help point any non-CR fan in the right direction towards getting involved in these groups. The essential albums are much more important to include in an opening post than a list of 15 essential artists.

[QUOTE=robo2448]
I'm considering cutting Jefferson Airplane, Traffic, Queen, and Sly and the Family Stone. Opinions?[/QUOTE]

One might say that A Night at the Opera is an essential album. Besides that, take the others out.

Jethro Tull must be on any list.

[QUOTE=Led-ZeppelinIV]Jethro Tull must be on any list.[/QUOTE]

I like my Tull, but I wouldn't call them an essential CR artist. I try to be very selective in terms of essential, so that the word still has a meaning different than "great".

[QUOTE=Led-ZeppelinIV]Jethro Tull must be on any list.[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't say that. For prog, the only bands would be King Crimson and Floyd. [I]Maybe[/I] Yes.

My essential prog would have to be Rush.

I'm sending out Wolfmother - Wolfmother right now because I'm in love with it already after listening to one song....

Yeah you know what, essential artists is hard. Lunch is right, let's take a break from that and maybe compile an essential albums list. I'd strongly suggest a 1 album per band rule so the list doesn't get too long.

I hate Rush. Yes is my favorite prog band. King Crimson are the most influential.

King Crimson, Yes, ELP are the essential prog for me.

As much as I love them, I'm not sure if Rush would be considered essential to the genre as a whole.

EDIT- Forget that. I'm stupid- 2112.

[QUOTE=Slug]I don't think CCR really need to be on there, either.[/QUOTE]

Neither do I.

In my opinion you could [SIZE="2"]even replace them [/SIZE][SIZE="1"]with David Bowie.[/SIZE]

[QUOTE]ACDC are considered to be the greatest band ever (by magizines, and 12 year olds alike)[/QUOTE]

So, this a quite informed Classic Rock thread. With regulars who know quite a bit about Classic Rock, let alone music in general.

[QUOTE]an innovative band yet they aren't on that list (understandably.)[/QUOTE]

How are ACDC innovative. They hadn't really introduced anything new.

[QUOTE]I mean hate them or love them they are more essential then ABB (Ya I said that. Might be the stupidest statement I've said for along time.) countless kids I know have started playing instruments or started listening to CR because of ACDC.[/QUOTE]

Most of us dislike them or show no interest towards them. To a 12 year old, or just one who perhaps hasn't gone in depth with the genre, ACDC maybe essential. But to us, they are not the essence of Classic Rock. Unless we have just decided to make a plain, generic essential Classic Rock list, I say we add a little opinion to our lists, and possibly put who we actually believe deserve to be on the list, through music, not popularity.

Now perhaps you do believe ACDC do actually belong on the list, that's your opinion, as Allman brothers is ours, and a much more wise opinion if you ask me.


/expects that the thread hasn't regained ACDC interest

Essential albums:
The Beatles - Revolver
The Who - Live at Leeds (best rock 'n roll ever)
The Grateful Dead - American Beauty
Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited
Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
Led Zeppelin - I
The Allman Brothers - Live at the Fillmore East

Add or change at your will.

Edit: Liking a band does not qualify them as essential. I like Spirit, does that make them an essential classic rock band? No, it doesn't. Lets focus on albums first.

I like AC/DC. I'd call them essential.

I think CCR should be too.

You're wrong on both counts. I'm sorry to be harsh but you are. An argument could be made for CCR, though not a very strong one, but AC/DC has nothing going for them.