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Illmatic 09-08-2005 11:46 PM

[QUOTE=madeyadams]I'm not a fan of the Stones.. don't know why, just never have been.

But I [i]did[/i] listen to the Doors today for the first time in a few months, and I forgot how much I love Morrison's voice. :)[/QUOTE]

you think Gregg Allman sounds like Jim Morrison, so stfu :p

Leper 09-08-2005 11:47 PM

[QUOTE=madeyadams]I'm not a fan of the Stones.. don't know why, just never have been.

But I [i]did[/i] listen to the Doors today for the first time in a few months, and I forgot how much I love Morrison's voice. :)[/QUOTE]

Have you really given them a chance?

Illmatic 09-08-2005 11:53 PM

[QUOTE=madeyadams]Gregg Allman DOES at certain points! I don't know how you can't hear it, I totally hear it.[/QUOTE]

Gregg Allman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jim Morrison

Leper 09-08-2005 11:56 PM

[QUOTE=madeyadams]Yeah, my dad has the Forty Licks boxset. I've listened to it before, but it was awhile ago.. Maybe if I listened to it now I'd like it more.[/QUOTE]

Ya you should definitely give them another chance. There's even a lot of songs of theirs outside 40 licks that are worth a listen.

BlackDeathMetalJazz or really ANYTHING else please- 09-09-2005 11:44 AM

[QUOTE=Illmatic]Gregg Allman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jim Morrison[/QUOTE]
You're insane. :lol:

PinkFreud 09-09-2005 12:29 PM

morrison wasnt that good though. he had a deep voice, almost no range, and power. lots of power. no versatility.

not that i dont like him a lot. hes just not that good of a singer.

ATM 09-09-2005 12:59 PM

I don't think you can define a "good" singer.

I love Morrison because his voice matched the music perfectly.

PinkFreud 09-09-2005 01:12 PM

you can define a good singer by his range, versatility, power, and the quality of their voice.

chris cornell and jeff buckley had huge ranges. cornell had great power. buckley could sing everything. they were good singers.

morrison had a lackluster range, great power, but his voice was one dimensional.

temporary 09-09-2005 01:30 PM

[QUOTE=EightMilesHigh]Nice :cool:

I'm getting back into the Stones right now. I [I]loved[/I] them about two years ago, but kinda got out of them.

What's everyone's favorite Stones song(s)? For me:

Gimme Shelter
Street Fighting Man
Brown Sugar
Get Off Of My Cloud
Wild Horses
Tumbling Dice
Beast Of Burden
Jumpin' Jack Flash

Off the top of my head.[/QUOTE]

Heres mine (in no order):

Gimme Shelter
Sympathy for the Devil
Can' Always Get What You Want
Beat of Burden
Angie
Street Fighting Man
Get Off of My Clowd
Jumpin' Jack Flash
Paint Black

angusmaster 09-09-2005 01:55 PM

[QUOTE=PinkFreud]you can define a good singer by his range, versatility, power, and the quality of their voice.

chris cornell and jeff buckley had huge ranges. cornell had great power. buckley could sing everything. they were good singers.

morrison had a lackluster range, great power, but his voice was one dimensional.[/QUOTE]
My brother is trying to get me into jeff buckley,i dont like his music alot,but he has an awesome voice.

Illmatic 09-09-2005 01:56 PM

[QUOTE=Schyma]You're insane. :lol:[/QUOTE]

I can't think of a single reason why Morrison was a better singer than Allman.

thickasabrick 09-09-2005 02:11 PM

[QUOTE=Schyma]You're insane. :lol:[/QUOTE]

I was trying to find an unoffensive way to reply. :lol:

Jim Morrison wasn't a great singer and he knew it. It was all about the lyrics for him, and he often said that. I think he's got a wonderful voice, not in the conventional sense....sort of like how Robert Plant or Jimi Hendrix have great voices. As opposed to Freddy Mercury who actually has an amazing singing voice. I'm sure everyone agrees to that. Maybe even Illmatic does.

jpj 09-09-2005 02:20 PM

In his prime Gregg Allman had one of the best voices around, him and Richard Manuel.

Walrus Gumboot 09-09-2005 03:03 PM

[QUOTE=jpj]In his prime Gregg Allman had one of the best voices around, him and Richard Manuel.[/QUOTE]

It hasn't aged too badly, either

My music theory class is better than I thought it would be. We almost had a Spanish Jam with an Acoustic Bass, Acoustic Guitar, Baritone Ukulele and my Castanets. Maybe next time. Maybe if we had some of our school guitar heros. We have one really good one that I wouldn't be surprised to be on the jam scene in a few years, Really ****ing good.

Illmatic 09-09-2005 03:06 PM

I'm still not fond of Jim Morrison. He has moments where he is incredible ("Break On Through"), but a lot of the time he's barely doing anything more than mumbling, and it completely ruins The Doors' music for me.

temporary 09-09-2005 03:33 PM

[QUOTE=thickasabrick]I was trying to find an unoffensive way to reply. :lol:

Jim Morrison wasn't a great singer and he knew it. It was all about the lyrics for him, and he often said that. I think he's got a wonderful voice, not in the conventional sense....sort of like how Robert Plant or Jimi Hendrix have great voices. As opposed to Freddy Mercury who actually has an amazing singing voice. I'm sure everyone agrees to that. Maybe even Illmatic does.[/QUOTE]

I'm kind of surprised you said Robert Plant was a great singer, but not because he had a great singing voice. He had amazing range (they say there's notes on Zeppelin songs only dogs can) and a really powerfull sound.

robo2448 09-09-2005 03:40 PM

[QUOTE=jpj]In his prime Gregg Allman had one of the best voices around, him and Richard Manuel.[/QUOTE]

I love both of their voices. My favorite singers are Daultry, all of the Beatles (even Ringo :eek:), Bob Dylan :eek:, Mick Jagger (more his singing style than singing skills), David Gilmour, John Fogerty and Richard Manuel, Rich Danko, and Levon Helm from the Band.

Edit- And I absolutely can't stand Robert Plant's voice. His voice makes Zeppelin unlistenable for me. He may have vocal talents, but it just sounds terrible to me. Whereas everyone says Bob Dylan has no vocal talent and I absolutely love his voice.

TheDMV 09-09-2005 03:48 PM

my favorite vocalists are Jim Morrison, Daltrey, Fogerty, Pigpen, Marvin Gaye, and Freddy Mercury.

PinkFreud 09-09-2005 03:54 PM

[QUOTE=Obi One Kenodi]I'm kind of surprised you said Robert Plant was a great singer, but not because he had a great singing voice. He had amazing range [B](they say there's notes on Zeppelin songs only dogs can)[/B] and a really powerfull sound.[/QUOTE]
thats a lie. buckley can hit notes that women find hard to hit.

Jacaranda 09-09-2005 04:06 PM

I love David Bowies' voice, even when listening to a song the emotion/attitude just pours out.
I dunno, David Bowie Classic Rock? I think so.

Bah, no not glam! I consider him Classic Rock.

thickasabrick 09-09-2005 04:20 PM

[QUOTE=robo2448]I love both of their voices. My favorite singers are Daultry, all of the Beatles (even Ringo :eek:), Bob Dylan :eek:, Mick Jagger (more his singing style than singing skills), David Gilmour, John Fogerty and Richard Manuel, Rich Danko, and Levon Helm from the Band.

Edit- And I absolutely can't stand Robert Plant's voice. His voice makes Zeppelin unlistenable for me. He may have vocal talents, but it just sounds terrible to me. Whereas everyone says Bob Dylan has no vocal talent and I absolutely love his voice.[/QUOTE]

I find in terms of an entire band's vocal ability, I like the Beatles the best. Well, I suppose The Beach Boys...but you know. John Fogerty has an amazing voice. I don't think Daltrey is a bad singer...but he's not near my favourite. Bob Dylan is one of my favourite singers. I just put on Blonde on Blonde a few minutes ago, but I came upstairs to make tea...now I'm just waiting for the water to boil. I love Robert Plants voice. He's in my top five for favourite singers.

Illmatic, that mumbling is usually caused by him being completely wasted while recording. It happened a little too often, but I don't really think it ruined the songs...sometimes it's amusing. Sort of like how you can sometimes never understand a single word Bob Dylan sings when he plays live...but it's still a great song and it's fun to sing along to.

And I consider David Bowie classic rock in the same way I consider Elton John classic rock. And I'm not saying that in a bad way at all. I really like them both. Waters done boiling....gonna go listen to Blonde on Blonde now.

DeusExMachina 09-09-2005 04:27 PM

[QUOTE=Obi One Kenodi]I'm kind of surprised you said Robert Plant was a great singer, but not because he had a great singing voice. He had amazing range (they say there's notes on Zeppelin songs only dogs can) and a really powerfull sound.[/QUOTE]
Already been stated I think, but yeah, the dog thing, not true. Robert Plant has a decent range, but nothing particularly special. Maybe in rock music it is, but in choir or musicals you will find men who blow Robert Plant out of the water.

David Bowie glam/hair metal? I don't think so. I definitely consider him classic rock. However, I find his voice very annoying on most of his recordings. I love Young Americans though.

robo2448 09-09-2005 04:39 PM

[QUOTE=Spat Out Plath]Well he's not metal, but he's one of the forerunners of glam (rock).

Incidentally, does anybody have any live mp3s of Dylan's Tangled Up In Blue with alternate lyrics they can share?[/QUOTE]

On Live '75, he changes the point of view from 1st person to 3rd person. It's interesting. Also, on the bootleg series volume 1-3, he completely changes the tempo. It sounds like a completely different song. Unfortunately, I don't have that song on my computer, but I have the Live '75 one if you want it.

temporary 09-09-2005 04:40 PM

[QUOTE=robo2448]I love both of their voices. My favorite singers are Daultry, all of the Beatles (even Ringo :eek:), Bob Dylan :eek:, Mick Jagger (more his singing style than singing skills), David Gilmour, John Fogerty and Richard Manuel, Rich Danko, and Levon Helm from the Band.

Edit- And I absolutely can't stand Robert Plant's voice. His voice makes Zeppelin unlistenable for me. He may have vocal talents, but it just sounds terrible to me. Whereas everyone says Bob Dylan has no vocal talent and I absolutely love his voice.[/QUOTE]

While I disagree with your assesment of Plant's voice, I agree on Dylan. Sure I don't think he can sing or play guitar well, but his voice just sounds amazing. Songs like Desolation Row, Like A Rolling Stone, The Times They Are A-Changing and many more (naming every great Dylan song should be one of Herucle's tasks) all have great vocals. And Ringo's not [i]that[/i] bad. Alright well, maybe he is but the band make up for him. My favorite vocalists are:

Fredie Mercury
Robert Plant
Roger Daltrey
Jeff Buckley
Bob Dylan
Chris Cornell
Ian Gillian
Bruce Dikinson
David Bowie
Steve Perry (Journey gets no love :upset: )
Lennon, McCarney, and Harison
Brian Wilson
Roger Daltrey

[quote] thats a lie. buckley can hit notes that women find hard to hit.[/quote]

I'm not saying he couldn't, he certainly could. Lets just both agree that Buckley's great, and leave it at that?

Illmatic 09-09-2005 04:42 PM

Yeah, when Dylan does "Tangled Up in Blue" he sings most of it in a 3rd person perspective (ie, "He was standin' on the side of the road, rain fallin' on his shoes" instead of "And I was standin' on the side of the road, rain fallin' on my shoes") but he does randomly throw in the first person persective in some verses.

It always makes me wonder if it changes the meaning of the song somehow. It probably doesn't, but oh wells.

Jacaranda 09-09-2005 04:43 PM

Ha, Journey gets no love cause thats all they sing about.

I'm listening to them right now as a matter of fact.

Np: Wheel In The Sky

I think Dylans' problem is he just can't remember, I saw him in concert not long ago and I know most of his songs by heart and he'd skip a few lines in a song or something along that lines quiet a few times.

robo2448 09-09-2005 04:45 PM

[QUOTE=Illmatic]Yeah, when Dylan does "Tangled Up in Blue" he sings most of it in a 3rd person perspective (ie, "He was standin' on the side of the road, rain fallin' on his shoes" instead of "And I was standin' on the side of the road, rain fallin' on my shoes") but he does randomly throw in the first person persective in some verses.

It always makes me wonder if it changes the meaning of the song somehow. It probably doesn't, but oh wells.[/QUOTE]

Dylan throws in so many subtle little things like changing the point of view. It makes you think why he did. The best reason I can come up with is he was just playing on everyone overanalyzing his lyrics and having a good time with it.

ATM 09-09-2005 04:47 PM

I got a Jethro Tull album today. It's called [i]Stand Up[/i]. Pretty cool, I played it at work for everybody.

JonG 09-09-2005 04:49 PM

[QUOTE=Slug]I got a Jethro Tull album today. It's called [i]Stand Up[/i]. Pretty cool, I played it at work for everybody.[/QUOTE]
Great album, one of my top 3 by Tull.

robo2448 09-09-2005 04:49 PM

[QUOTE=Jacaranda]Ha, Journey gets no love cause thats all they sing about.

I'm listening to them right now as a matter of fact.

Np: Wheel In The Sky

I think Dylans' problem is he just can't remember, I saw him in concert not long ago and I know most of his songs by heart and he'd skip a few lines in a song or something along that lines quiet a few times.[/QUOTE]

I hear that these days, if you follow Dylan around the country, you will never hear two songs exactly alike. He makes different subtle changes to all of his songs every time he performs them.


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