[QUOTE=BenJammin;14433485]rofl

There is only a very small grain of truth in that.

How do you think those schools got their "names"? It wasn't by proving crappy education.[/QUOTE]

I am not saying that they provide substandard education, far from it. Many of those schools have some of the best education in the world, but it is only marginally better then the other schools that are out there. Also they got their names because they have been around for much longer and have always been leading the way, but that isn't to say that they are a better choice.

For example, the London School of Business (London England), set the standard for business programs in the late 40's early 50's, but everyone copied them and made their own little improvements. Then in the 80's and 90's the Harvard system got copied, and now the Ivey School of Business at the University of Western Ontario is the system that is being copied. These three schools of business are among the best in the world, but everyone is right behind them because they copy their system and curriculum, so by going to these schools you are really only paying for the name, not a better education.

lowsound

^^And paying for a name just happens to be the thing we do in this world. With school, with clothes, with musical instruments.. etc.

[QUOTE=thelowsoundofbass;14433324]Actually I really like school, but I have no idea what I want to do. So I am taking some time off to figure things out. Or I might just talk my way into a high paying job, that could work out well.

lowsound[/QUOTE]
Yeah you might talk yourself into a high paying job. But it will be a high paying job for a kid, not a grown up. 1500 in a month may be a high paying job when you're 20 or something. But at 25, it's an underpaid job. You need more money to have a family, a nice house and not working for lik2 24-7.

:thumb:

[QUOTE=Akira;14433507]Contradiction?[/QUOTE]

They have a big film program because they have the money to put into designing the program, because they charge a bunch of money.

lowsound

[QUOTE=kilian;14433547]Yeah you might talk yourself into a high paying job. But it will be a high paying job for a kid, not a grown up. 1500 in a month may be a high paying job when you're 20 or something. But at 25, it's an underpaid job. You need more money to have a family, a nice house and not working for lik2 24-7.

:smash:[/QUOTE]

I know a bunch of people that don't have degrees that make $70,000+ a year. Why? Because they do their job and do it well, thus getting them promotions and more money. You do NOT need a university or college degree to get a good, high paying job.

lowsound

[QUOTE=thelowsoundofbass;14433564]I know a bunch of people that don't have degrees that make $70,000+ a year. Why? Because they do their job and do it well, thus getting them promotions and more money. You do NOT need a university or college degree to get a good, high paying job.

lowsound[/QUOTE]
I have no idea how much 70 000 a year is compared to our standards. But it seems a lot to me..

But if you haven't read my edit on the previous post:

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You might succeed, but then you need to have your own business, quite a bit of guts and a good talking mouth. And still, you need to work a LOT. The most important thing: an idea. No wait, that's the second important thing. There are millions of people with idea's, but only a few who can work them out, properly.
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If you happen to actually know some of these people, not know them by name, but know them personally. Then they might give you some advice, but most of all, they will tell you this what I just said. With my work as a cocktail bartender, I tend to come at quite a few places. With all sorts of people, so I happen to speak to people like what you described. Succesfull or not.. :thumb:

I hope that it will all work out for you and wish you luck if you're actually going to try something like that. Have a good network!

:wave:

:wave:

How are you?

Hey, speaking of Berklee, it's Phelix!

[QUOTE=kilian;14433603]I have no idea how much 70 000 a year is compared to our standards. But it seems a lot to me..

But if you haven't read my edit on the previous post:

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You might succeed, but then you need to have your own business, quite a bit of guts and a good talking mouth. And still, you need to work a LOT. The most important thing: an idea. No wait, that's the second important thing. There are millions of people with idea's, but only a few who can work them out, properly.
--


If you happen to actually know some of these people, not know them by name, but know them personally. Then they might give you some advice, but most of all, they will tell you this what I just said. With my work as a cocktail bartender, I tend to come at quite a few places. With all sorts of people, so I happen to speak to people like what you described. Succesfull or not.. :thumb:

I hope that it will all work out for you and wish you luck if you're actually going to try something like that. Have a good network![/QUOTE]

Dude... if Will Smith can do it....

actually its not! im out, playing rythm section for a flute choir in 15 minutes, hasta luego

[QUOTE=Left Shoe;14433629]actually its not! im out, playing rythm section for a flute choir in 15 minutes, hasta luego[/QUOTE]
:lol:

That's great!




Puke: Will Smith already HAD a great job! He defeated aliens. That's not fair when you're getting into the simple world of Wallstreet :upset:

[QUOTE=kilian;14433644]:lol:

That's great!




Puke: Will Smith already HAD a great job! He defeated aliens. That's not fair when you're getting into the simple world of Wallstreet :upset:[/QUOTE]

:lol: defeating aliens counts for nothing on a resume.

[QUOTE=thelowsoundofbass;14433564]I know a bunch of people that don't have degrees that make $70,000+ a year. [/QUOTE]

Hi.

what do you do Jamey?

I.T. I'm actually trying to get through college now to get out of the field, though.

[QUOTE=Jimbobntnr;14433649]Hi.[/QUOTE]

Add one more to the list.

The three most important things to get ahead in business are: hard work, ambition and people skills. None of those are really learned in college/university, at least they aren't learned in a classroom.

lowsound

[QUOTE=thelowsoundofbass;14433690]Add one more to the list.

The three most important things to get ahead in business are: hard work, ambition and people skills. None of those are really learned in college/university, at least they aren't learned in a classroom.

lowsound[/QUOTE]

Those are the same things you need to get ahead in anything. Business, academia, etc.

[QUOTE=BenJammin;14433698]Those are the same things you need to get ahead in anything. Business, academia, etc.[/QUOTE]

And they are not learned in a classroom. I have those three traits (I am also an extremely quick learner), so I figure that I can get ahead in something and right now school doesn't interest me.

lowsound

Jamey, don't you get [I]paid[/I] to go to school?

[QUOTE=Akira;14433711]Jamey, don't you get [I]paid[/I] to go to school?[/QUOTE]

GIBill - yeah.

[QUOTE=Akira;14433711]Jamey, don't you get [I]paid[/I] to go to school?[/QUOTE]

A friend of mine is half Native, so he gets paid to go to school. Tuition + $440 a semester.

[QUOTE=BenJammin;14433733]A friend of mine is half Native, so he gets paid to go to school. Tuition + $440 a semester.[/QUOTE]

One of my friends is enough native to get his status card, but refuses to. I don't understand that at all.

lowsound

[QUOTE=thelowsoundofbass;14433754]One of my friends is enough native to get his status card, but refuses to. I don't understand that at all.

lowsound[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that's really mind-boggling.

what is this status card canadians?

[QUOTE=BenJammin;14433769]Yeah, that's really mind-boggling.[/QUOTE]

Not to mention that he drives all the time, he would save so much money on gas. I wish I was part native so I could get a status card.

lowsound

[QUOTE=thelowsoundofbass;14433779]Not to mention that he drives all the time, he would save so much money on gas. I wish I was part native so I could get a status card.

lowsound[/QUOTE]

Yeah... makes no sense.

[QUOTE=thelowsoundofbass;14433690]Add one more to the list.

The three most important things to get ahead in business are: hard work, ambition and people skills. None of those are really learned in college/university, at least they aren't learned in a classroom.

lowsound[/QUOTE]
Well.. it depends to which school you go I suppose :amaze:

Hard work. Defenitly if you're going to the University. College is a laugh, but there are also harder schools.

Ambition. Comes out of yourself, but you can be helped to find it. Well.. quite a few people do that at school. Even if they find out that they DON'T want to do something with English, they're still finding their ambition.

People skills. I have never seen something that is as social as a school is :smash:

I'm not bashing you, I'm just giving you a lot of counterpoints :) Of course you can make your money out of something without school, but it's hard. And with a degree, it's easier most of the times.

[QUOTE=irishslappop;14433776]what is this status card canadians?[/QUOTE]

This card saying that you are native/part native (I think that you have to be at least 1/16th), you then don't have to pay taxes of any kind. I don't even think they have to pay income taxes, and they get all the benefits of paying the taxes, free health care ect.

lowsound

[QUOTE=thelowsoundofbass;14433786]This card saying that you are native/part native (I think that you have to be at least 1/16th), you then don't have to pay taxes of any kind. I don't even think they have to pay income taxes, and they get all the benefits of paying the taxes, free health care ect.

lowsound[/QUOTE]

You have to be more than 1/16th, don't you? :|

I thought you had to be at least 1/4 Native.

[QUOTE=thelowsoundofbass;14433786]This card saying that you are native/part native (I think that you have to be at least 1/16th), you then don't have to pay taxes of any kind. I don't even think they have to pay income taxes, and they get all the benefits of paying the taxes, free health care ect.

lowsound[/QUOTE]

What the f[SIZE="2"]u[/SIZE]ck?

sounds like discrimination to me....

[QUOTE=kilian;14433783]Well.. it depends to which school you go I suppose :amaze:

Hard work. Defenitly if you're going to the University. College is a laugh, but there are also harder schools.

Ambition. Comes out of yourself, but you can be helped to find it. Well.. quite a few people do that at school. Even if they find out that they DON'T want to do something with English, they're still finding their ambition.

People skills. I have never seen something that is as social as a school is :smash:

I'm not bashing you, I'm just giving you a lot of counterpoints :) Of course you can make your money out of something without school, but it's hard. And with a degree, it's easier most of the times.[/QUOTE]
Those traits are not learned in a class room, although they can be learned there. The only thing a degree gets you is a foot in the door, nothing more. 99% of the people that graduate university with a degree in business will never be anything more than a mid-level manager, which you don't need a university degree to do. A business degree trains you to be on the board of directors for a corporation, very few people with degrees ever make it there, thus their degree was useless. Also a lot of the people that end up on boards like that are people with little to no post secondary education or with a degree other than business.

lowsound

[QUOTE=BenJammin;14433797]You have to be more than 1/16th, don't you? :|

I thought you had to be at least 1/4 Native.[/QUOTE]

Quite sure that it is either 1/8 or 1/16th. All I know that is my friend that is part native that doesn't want his cards doesn't look anything like a native. I wouldn't have known if it hadn't come up in a conversation a few months ago.

lowsound

I can be something like that! Even in my own country.. I'm 1/4 Polish and 3/4 Dutch! :lol:

They can never do something like that over here.. Then like 40% get a card like that.

Hey.

[QUOTE=kilian;14433837]I can be something like that! Even in my own country.. I'm 1/4 Polish and 3/4 Dutch! :lol:

They can never do something like that over here.. Then like 40% get a card like that.[/QUOTE]

Native, as in Native American, indigenous peoples, Indians ect.

lowsound

Hey.



How are you?

[QUOTE=thelowsoundofbass;14433811]Those traits are not learned in a class room, although they can be learned there. The only thing a degree gets you is a foot in the door, nothing more. 99% of the people that graduate university with a degree in business will never be anything more than a mid-level manager, which you don't need a university degree to do. A business degree trains you to be on the board of directors for a corporation, very few people with degrees ever make it there, thus their degree was useless. Also a lot of the people that end up on boards like that are people with little to no post secondary education or with a degree other than business.

lowsound[/QUOTE]

1. a foot in the door is better than the door being shut.

2. you say that "most" people with a dregree never make it to the board of directors. I say that "most" people that don't get a degree are gonna work at some retail outlet for half their life.

Hi gav.

lowsound

[QUOTE=thelowsoundofbass;14433863]Native, as in Native American, indigenous peoples, Indians ect.

lowsound[/QUOTE]

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English..