This thread is teh bomb anyway.

Wow and I have been here from the start...i jus wish they would hurry up and make this album, then pay me a visit at reading.

[QUOTE=Kage]This thread is teh bomb anyway.[/QUOTE]

Cuz I'm here. :naughty:

This is sorta off topic but there had to be some reason to this post so heres my question:

On Aenima theres alot of whispering throughout some of the tracks like Stinkfist and Hooker. I haven't tried to figer out the words on Hooker, but on Stinkfist right before the little solo, you hear something like "pick up the (inser word starting with P...mabye picture?) and show me..". This is most likly wrong...what are your guys' thoughts?

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]Cuz I'm here. :naughty:

This is sorta off topic but there had to be some reason to this post so heres my question:

On Aenima theres alot of whispering throughout some of the tracks like Stinkfist and Hooker. I haven't tried to figer out the words on Hooker, but on Stinkfist right before the little solo, you hear something like "pick up the (inser word starting with P...mabye picture?) and show me..". This is most likly wrong...what are your guys' thoughts?[/QUOTE]
I might be mistaken, but I heard that it was "Consume, be fruitful, multiply" on Hooker.

[QUOTE=Kage]

As for it being in the obscure language, it's I think it's in that language for the reason that it sounds cool and is indeed obscure (with obscurity being an obsession for Maynard)[/QUOTE]

I beleive the language is Enochian or something along those lines. The gong that you see when Carey is drumming is not an actual insturment, but some sort of Enochian relic-ish deal. :-/ I could be totally wrong, but this is what I have heard.

And also, Kage, get the fu[B][I][/I][/B]ck on msn. :p

[QUOTE=BlindWriting]I might be mistaken, but I heard that it was "Consume, be fruitful, multiply" on Hooker.[/QUOTE]
Interesting.

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]I beleive the language is Enochian or something along those lines. The gong that you see when Carey is drumming is not an actual insturment, but some sort of Enochian relic-ish deal. :-/ I could be totally wrong, but this is what I have heard.

And also, Kage, get the fu[B][I][/I][/B]ck on msn. :p[/QUOTE]

I think that Enochian is indeed the language.

Ah, MSN, I keep forgetting to sign on. I used to sign on everyday, but ever since I stopped using Hotmail I rarely do anymore. I might be getting on later, but right now I have a history paper to type and many chemistry problems to tackle, so I'll try and get on sometime in the near future.

Is there an Official verdict on the meaning of Parabola? I've been reading the lyrics forevar (pirate style), trying to find something solid. I've come up with something, but I didn't know if there was a verdict yet.

What did you find out?

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]I beleive the language is Enochian or something along those lines. The gong that you see when Carey is drumming is not an actual insturment, but some sort of Enochian relic-ish deal. :-/ I could be totally wrong, but this is what I have heard.

And also, Kage, get the fu[B][I][/I][/B]ck on msn. :p[/QUOTE]

Why do you have a picture of Aaron Carter in your avatar? :confused:

Has anyone heard the songs from that dick from Summerland? I saw that music video at Best Buy the other day and his "emotion" made me cringe in horror

[QUOTE=Remedy]What did you find out?[/QUOTE]

I'm probably wrong, but here goes:

I think the song flat out says:
Enjoy life

Many lines can take reference to life. This holy experience etc.

"All this pain is an illusion" sounds to me just like something someone says just to make them feel better in bad times.

The speaker seems to be going through bad times, and is trying to remind himself that it will all be good in the end.

"This body" seems to be holding him back from his eternal life. In the beginning it sounds like a bad thing, but as the song concludes the speaker realizes that this mortal life is a gift, and once again that all this pain is an illusion; it will all end well.

Once you read the lyrics with this point of view in mind, it makes tons of sense.

[QUOTE=clearvision]This thread is all you need really, there is a forum on tooshed. But that is full of druggies.[/QUOTE]

Theres lots of good threads at Toolshed. Philosophy, religion, etc. Drugs are a minor part of the discussions.

[QUOTE=In Chains 36]Why do you have a picture of Aaron Carter in your avatar? :confused:[/QUOTE]

That's me. :upset:

/changes avatar

It must be that red effect...:p

:upset:

You bas[B][I][/I][/B]tard!

[QUOTE=Sliptallica]I'm probably wrong, but here goes:

I think the song flat out says:
Enjoy life

Many lines can take reference to life. This holy experience etc.

"All this pain is an illusion" sounds to me just like something someone says just to make them feel better in bad times.

The speaker seems to be going through bad times, and is trying to remind himself that it will all be good in the end.

"This body" seems to be holding him back from his eternal life. In the beginning it sounds like a bad thing, but as the song concludes the speaker realizes that this mortal life is a gift, and once again that all this pain is an illusion; it will all end well.

Once you read the lyrics with this point of view in mind, it makes tons of sense.[/QUOTE]

While we may never know just how accurate that is, or what Maynard/Tool INTENDED Parabola (or any of their songs for that matter) to mean...that sounds pretty cool...I personally never really thought of it that way.

I always thought it was a positive song though.

I don't know if it helps, but in case you didn't know, a Parabola is also a math term. If you have a graph or coordinate plain, it is a curved line that has either a lowest or highest point.
Let's say it opens upwards. It has then has a lowest point. Then, a line extends forever from each side of that point. It extends at a curve, until it goes EXACTLY up or down. It would look like a U or an upside-down U. I'm sure somebody could explain this better.

Yeah, I knew what a parabola was, from having taken more math than I cared to...

But I never really saw how it connected to the song.

[QUOTE=The JoZ]Yeah, I knew what a parabola was, from having taken more math than I cared to...

But I never really saw how it connected to the song.[/QUOTE]


Perhaps "we are eternal" like the opening of a parabola?

I thought the way Parabola referred to the song was the guy went down to a low depression (vertex) but then regained himself and went back up. (If I remember what a Parabola is correctly)

OR

He could mean you started in a divine state, then went lower to a mortal state, and you are destined to go back to your divine step, upward.

Then there's always the reference to how a parabola never ends, but instead curves certain directions ("we are eternal, all this pain is an illusion"). Perhaps he's saying life is like the way down on a parabola, and then when we are freed from the bodily restrains, we hit the low point of the parabola and begin the never-ending ascension or something to that effect.

EDIT: Come to think of it, perhaps there's more of a parabola imagery in that he's referring to how the parabola is the focal concept in Algebra, etc. It's almost like there's so much that comes from that parabola and its equation, almost like life can be defined by some equation, but it can get far too complex (the parabola never ends...the values become way too high) and once a person releases his preoccupation with worldly pain, he just let the journey go as it will.

[QUOTE=Kage]Then there's always the reference to how a parabola never ends, but instead curves certain directions ("we are eternal, all this pain is an illusion"). Perhaps he's saying life is like the way down on a parabola, and then when we are freed from the bodily restrains, we hit the low point of the parabola and begin the never-ending ascension or something to that effect.[/QUOTE]

I think that's what I was aiming for.

But you got it dead on I think. I wish there was an official way to confirm this stuff.

Then there's always the idea that, I suppose there's the two different directions of the parabola. It's like, you can go up forever or you can go down forever. Since Parabola is essentially in the center of the CD, it may represent the concept that the speaker is at the vertex of his life...he can now choose whether he will go back from whence he came or travel up the parabola in a never-ending ascension to spiritual freedom.

The more i think of it, the more applications can be applied. I have no idea if any of these have anything to do with the song, but it's interesting speculate on. Perhaps he just uses the parabola as imagery to indicate a never-ending journey in either direction.

I think our Parabola conversation is the perfect example of how Maynard writes amazingly versatile lyrics. We've thought up multiple conclusions just to one song's title that all make perfect sense. Maybe he thought all these things about the title too, and not just one thing. Who knows? We probably never will. Kind of sad, I wish Maynard would write some huge fat book explaining all the dimensions of his songs.

Edit: I looked up the meaning of "Parable", being that it's in the song. It means a story with a religious, meaningful moral. Maybe it's just a play on words? A never ending religious story going on in two directions?

I can't wait for the fat book release.

Heh...that would be nice. Still, without it, it provides some nice grounds for discussion. I agree, the versatility of his lyrics is great. Anyone can get his own meaning out of it, and it can be perfectly valid. I think that's really cool.

[QUOTE=Sliptallica]I'm probably wrong, but here goes:

I think the song flat out says:
Enjoy life

Many lines can take reference to life. This holy experience etc.

"All this pain is an illusion" sounds to me just like something someone says just to make them feel better in bad times.

The speaker seems to be going through bad times, and is trying to remind himself that it will all be good in the end.

"This body" seems to be holding him back from his eternal life. In the beginning it sounds like a bad thing, but as the song concludes the speaker realizes that this mortal life is a gift, and once again that all this pain is an illusion; it will all end well.

Once you read the lyrics with this point of view in mind, it makes tons of sense.[/QUOTE]
Thats the main vibe i got from reading the lyrics also.

So, onto the next song.

Ticks and Leeches.

Is Maynard mad at someone we don't know, the record label, or (GASP!) US!

This was around the time of the Napster scandal and whatnot. I was thinking, did he scream like that to try and set off some fans? Then when the file sharer's download the song they hear screaming wails from Maynard and hear "Hope this is what you wanted, hope this is what you had in mind.....I hope you choke!"

I doubt this, but it's another way to look at it. Maynard has said once that he didn't think that file sharing was all that bad.

We all know, Tool wasn't happy with it's record label.

What do you think?

Hmm, i thought maynard didn't like file sharing at all because if you actually go to the RIAA site they actually quoted him there...something along the lines like... "real fans to rip off their artists...if you didn't create it (the music) then don't exploit it"...i know only because i had to do a paper on file sharing and well, i used that quote somewhere in there.

He's pretty against it, I saw an interview with the whole band. Twas quite cool.

I thought he wasn't entirely because of this:

Loder: Are you opposed to file-sharing?

Keenan: Not necessarily. But I wish people would realize what an artist normally makes on the sale of an album. Nowadays, you have to sell, like, half a million or a million records just to break even. And how many bands sell a million records? Not that many.

He doesn't sound [i]very[/i] against it. Atleast not enough to write Ticks and Leeches.

my friend told me that aenima can be related alot to children and child birth, i told him he was an idiot, and that it was a tribute to Bill Hicks. However, looking into the lyrics alot of them could have something to do with childbirth and children, but it is not relevant in all songs.