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Apoc 04-06-2010 09:16 AM

[QUOTE=HighandDriving;17908187]@Apoc The only way into Heaven is through Jesus Christ, you must believe that Jesus died on the Cross for your sins and accept him into your heart. This is why Jews, who believe in "God", don't go to Heaven, cause they don't recognise Jesus Christ as our Saviour.[/QUOTE]

nigga you must be trolling

you're not even a Vatican II christian? No implied salvation?

Why, on principle, should I get on my knees and pray to a God who won't save 13,000,000 people today, even though they worship him? A God that detail-oriented and petty doesn't make any sense to me. He's not all-good if he damns you. He's not all-forgiving. And why does the omnipotent and omniscient need my validation anyway? I'm just a speck of sh*t among 6 billion others

Pete 04-06-2010 09:21 AM

[QUOTE=HighandDriving;17908187]@Apoc The only way into Heaven is through Jesus Christ, [/QUOTE]

dude seems like such a slut

Apoc 04-06-2010 09:22 AM

[I]metalcore[/I]

[IMG]http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/3489/1263870474918.gif[/IMG]

2muchket! 04-06-2010 09:22 AM

[I]christcore[/I]

The Feeding 04-06-2010 09:23 AM

[QUOTE=2muchket!;17908193]Well I don't really believe in either tbh, atheist over here yo[/QUOTE]

I agree. Seems kinda pointless to me

Apoc 04-06-2010 09:25 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utAYcLiEwvE

Pete 04-06-2010 09:25 AM

agnostic

makes more sense

who am i to say i'm 100% certain there is no god? =/

The Feeding 04-06-2010 09:27 AM

I'm like 50/50, don't really classify myself

I deff don't belive the Jesus story tho

Apoc 04-06-2010 09:28 AM

I like Dawkins' response to agnosticism.

If 90% of people on earth believed there was a giant teacup in orbit between Jupiter and Saturn, and you know there isn't any evidence to demonstrate the existence of such a teacup, it doesn't really make sense to be a teacup-agnostic. Who would say their belief was that there may be a teacup out there? Really we know there [i]may[/i] be one, but to believe that is unreasonable; without evidence, believing in something is silly.

It's just bet-hedging.

Pete 04-06-2010 09:31 AM

[QUOTE=Apoc;17908215]I like Dawkins' response to agnosticism.

If 90% of people on earth believed there was a giant teacup in orbit between Jupiter and Saturn, and you know there isn't any evidence to demonstrate the existence of such a teacup, it doesn't really make sense to be a teacup-agnostic. Who would say their belief was that there may be a teacup out there? Really we know there [i]may[/i] be one, but to believe that is unreasonable; without evidence, believing in something is silly.

It's just bet-hedging.[/QUOTE]

i dont believe in any kind of bearded guy in the sky, but idk maybe there's a force behind the universe (which some people i guess choose to call god)

i'm not gonna rule it out

but it doesnt really concern me so idc either way

Apoc 04-06-2010 09:33 AM

fair enough. if I were to believe in God, it wouldn't be the one of dogma either. I respect that.

HighandDriving 04-06-2010 09:33 AM

@Apoc Dude, I'm not trolling (ya ya) and I'm not a missionary, I'm pro-life and believe in Gay Marriage, so I'm pretty much a Christian reject. All I know is that he doesn't damn you, he offers salvation. But then again I struggle with the idea that people who don't get the oppurtunity to hear the Lord's teachings don't incur the Lord's salvation. Religion is fuc ked up I know. But God does love you, even if you don't believe in him, he believes in you.

Vatican II christian? You mean the reformed Catholics? I don't know what you're trying to imply, but I'm not Catholic.

The Feeding 04-06-2010 09:34 AM

[QUOTE=Pete;17908216]
i'm not gonna rule it out

but it doesnt really concern me so idc either way[/QUOTE]

this is my opinion basically. I just find it amusing to be antichristian for shits n giggles

HighandDriving 04-06-2010 09:37 AM

You'll be in Hell, unable to stop giggling while poop is constantly fed to you.

Pete 04-06-2010 09:41 AM

[QUOTE=The Feeding;17908223]this is my opinion basically. I just find it amusing to be antichristian for poops n giggles[/QUOTE]

oh believe you me i'm anti-christian

it's not their notion of some kinda deity that bugs me, it's the rest of the bullshˇt that they attach to that

i hate christianity

there, i said it

cats outta the bag

Apoc 04-06-2010 09:43 AM

[I]gasp[/I]

HighandDriving 04-06-2010 09:47 AM

You know that the Catholic Church pushed the belief that Mary Magdalene was a whore to suppress Women.

Pete 04-06-2010 09:48 AM

you know that mary magdalene was a whore

HighandDriving 04-06-2010 09:49 AM

Supposedly she wasn't.

2muchket! 04-06-2010 09:50 AM

Metalcore fans unite for some [I]philosophy[/I]


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