no thy dnt

Im looking for a ride.

Bright, great ping, not much wash, great bell.

Help me lovelies.

[QUOTE=drummerdude9574;6010986]i play mostly rock and medal, some jazz, think that would be a good ride for me?[/QUOTE]
I would have to go with possibly a hhx studio ride I have heard it in live settings it is sweet for metal cause it has a decent crash sound and it has that warmer sound for jazz.

[QUOTE=MeaninglessPhoto;14964113]Im looking for a ride.

Bright, great ping, not much wash, great bell.

Help me lovelies.[/QUOTE]

22" A Ping Ride!

What froggy said

[QUOTE=MeaninglessPhoto;14964113]Im looking for a ride.

Bright, great ping, not much wash, great bell.

Help me lovelies.[/QUOTE]

20" 2oo2 Heavy Ride. I'm not a fan of the pings at all.

[quote=Seafroggys;14964531]22" A Ping Ride![/quote]

:p Already have one. Its an older model though. Im not sure if there is a difference between the new and the older model, sound wise. My ping doesnt have much of a ping anymore. It sounds like a medium ride now.

I'd look at the K Heavy Ride, it fits your description. Also look into the K Special Dry Ride(I think it's called).

Like the cereal? :p

Thanks for the suggestion. Ill try to find out and try it out.

im looking for a splash, somthin like the zil a custum 10 in but, all my other cymbals are sabian,


this isnt a big deal but id like to stick to one brand, im not goning to get an inferior cymbal just because of brand.


thanks

How about the Vault series? I think they're supposed to be identical to the A Customs.

apparently sabian dosent make vault splashes just checked the website

Nah, only hats, rides and crashes.

I can't wait for splashes and chinas, i hope they rock.

fishy you should order one...go to your local store, tell em you want a custom order and say you want a china based on the vault series. And give em the sound characteristics you want.

Hmm, i could but i'm not exactly in the market for a china right now.

Hey, this is cymbal related, so here you are: I'm after a cymbal spring and ebay finally have some! But now I'm unsure what size I need, medium or large. Whats the difference ?Thanks
:)

[QUOTE=aquarian website;14971567]The medium spring, which is red, is recommended for crash cymbals 16” and larger. The yellow heavy spring is recommended for China cymbals and Ride cymbals 18” and larger.
[/QUOTE]

ya know, i doing some research(on the sabian web site and at my drum shop) and i compared the a custom(10" splash) to the two i found on the sabian site to be the most alike, the aa and aax 10" splashes(aax is a tad darker but not much)

the major difference i noticed was the volume (which really supprised me)

i looked at one, hit it, looked at another, hit IT,... and DAMN that zil was loud compared to the sabians, the only differece vissually i noticed was the bell size(the zil bell was about twice as large) im no expert in cybals but does the bell size have much to do with volume?

bigger bell translates to more unlathed bronze, which i guess means more mass = more volume?

any ideas?

btw ant hope this helps

[QUOTE=aquarian website;14971567]The medium spring, which is red, is recommended for crash cymbals 16” and larger. The yellow heavy spring is recommended for China cymbals and Ride cymbals 18” and larger.
[/QUOTE]

Ant, IIRC, the large is for rides and chinas and the mediums are for crashes.

^^^^^^^^ been there said that

twice actually

ohh.

Whoops. I guess I need to read more :p

'Afternoon, gents. Could anybody reccomend me a modern day equivalent to one of them there 70s swish cymbals? Or at least a 20" china that's good for riding and would work well with rivets drilled in?

I thought Zildjian still made China Swishes.

they do

The only thing I've found is a so called "Swish knocker" which only comes in 22" size. So far I think I'm gonna go for a 20" A high china and put some rivets in it.

[QUOTE=Vannaroth;14977573]The only thing I've found is a so called "Swish knocker" which only comes in 22" size. So far I think I'm gonna go for a 20" A high china and put some rivets in it.[/QUOTE]

What exactly is the use / sound of a swish cymbal? Any songs use it etc?

Well. Zildjian DOES make Swish Knockers and Swishes, but it is really hard to find modern swishes for sale. Ebay would be your best bet to find one.

A china that could work well would be a China High/Low because that is basically what a Swish Knocker is, just with a shitload of rivets.

[QUOTE=Ollie The Drumming Legend;14980261]What exactly is the use / sound of a swish cymbal? Any songs use it etc?[/QUOTE]

With rivets they have a nice wispy, sizzling kind of sound and can also be used for alternative rides. One can be heard being crashed in "Limelight" by Rush in the chorus.

But like Meaningless said I think I'll get a 20" china high and stick about 10 or so rivets in it

Good plan ;)

It might also save you some money as well.

[QUOTE=Vannaroth;14980852]With rivets they have a nice wispy, sizzling kind of sound and can also be used for alternative rides. One can be heard being crashed in "Limelight" by Rush in the chorus.

But like Meaningless said I think I'll get a 20" china high and stick about 10 or so rivets in it[/QUOTE]

The A chinas are really nice in any case... I want to get one, either that or the oriental, but I can only find the china trash rather than the classic, and they only have about 2% sustain.

You could special order one.

Just a thought.

You guys know what china Vinnie was using when he played at Modern Drummer in 2000? It doesn't look like an Oriental, but I'm not sure. Thanks..

i think it's an a custom china

i have one!

They made a 22" A Custom once?

I think it's a 20"

Yeah, I think. Do you have any pics of yours? It'd help me compare. I really love that sound though.

i don't have any shots of it directly but i have some kit shots with the china in it:

[IMG]http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/bill1987/Left.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/bill1987/Rightside2.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/bill1987/Right2.jpg[/IMG]
:lol:

Thanks a lot man. I think I've had enough of the Orientals for awhile(I've got two). What size is your A Custom China?

20" mother, biggest they got!

Whats the specs on that thang?
Or did I miss it already...