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saars 08-22-2006 03:34 PM

What is the sabian sound equivalent of the 18" zildjian a thin crash and the 14" k mastersounds?

HeLLmO 08-22-2006 03:41 PM

i think it's AA(X?) studio, if they don't make AA studio you could get AAX in trad finish, and the Matersound equvalent would be HHxcellerators(not HHXcellerators), but i'm not sure if they make those, so you'd have to talk to sabian and get them custom done

stevensonmat2 08-22-2006 06:55 PM

Hey im looking for a really dark sounding ride that I could play in rock setting, something thatll cut, but with great stick definition.

Seafroggys 08-22-2006 07:16 PM

[QUOTE=stevensonmat2]Hey im looking for a really dark sounding ride that I could play in rock setting, something thatll cut, but with great stick definition.[/QUOTE]

K Heavy Ride!

stevensonmat2 08-22-2006 07:18 PM

Sweet thanks! Lorax ftw

Tim 08-22-2006 07:58 PM

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]K Heavy Ride![/QUOTE]

good god yes!

DespisedIcon689 08-22-2006 09:54 PM

My drummer is looking for some new crashes for metal. He hits hard on his cymbals and he broke both of his ZBT Crashes. I know ZBT sux but he is afraid he will break more cymbals. He is looking at Zildjian cymbals and he wants some that sound good with metal and are very durable. Any suggestions?

stevensonmat2 08-22-2006 10:22 PM

Z customs are supposedly the cymbals for hard rock/metal, but ive never tried em.

saars 08-22-2006 10:25 PM

To HeLLmO: Thanks! If I want to get a pair custom made, do you know how much it will cost me? Or more over, what number I should call to get a pair made?

HeLLmO 08-22-2006 10:39 PM

[QUOTE=saars]um... Z... Customs..? I'm probably gonna get flamed, but when I read metal, Z custom was the first two words that came in mind.

To HeLLmO: Thanks! If I want to get a pair custom made, do you know how much it will cost me? Or more over, what number I should call to get a pair made?[/QUOTE]


well, as to that, i'm honestly not sure, i'm sure you could look on the sabian site and try to find an FAQ or an Address or somethin'. if all else fairs you could always go to canada. i don't think the hats themselves would cost too much more than the hats would be if you didn't tamper with them, for example on massmusic, 14'' HH regular hats are 359, so i can't imagine gettin' them soundedged would make them more that 380(that's just an example, i don't recall sabians actual prices). they're usually really helpful with their custom stuff, so i think you'll be fine. glad i could be of help to ya

chewaz 08-22-2006 11:53 PM

[QUOTE=DespisedIcon689]My drummer is looking for some new crashes for metal. He hits hard on his cymbals and he broke both of his ZBT Crashes. I know ZBT sux but he is afraid he will break more cymbals. He is looking at Zildjian cymbals and he wants some that sound good with metal and are very durable. Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]

18" and 20" paiste 2002 medium crash or the sabian AA-metal-X crashes

Tim 08-23-2006 04:05 AM

[QUOTE=chewaz]18" and 20" paiste 2002 medium crash or the sabian AA-metal-X crashes[/QUOTE]

2002...hands down

Drum Phil 08-23-2006 06:03 AM

[quote=stevensonmat2]Z customs are supposedly the cymbals for hard rock/metal, but ive never tried em.[/quote]
Z customs should not be used. Period.

[quote=DespisedIcon689]My drummer is looking for some new crashes for metal. He hits hard on his cymbals and he broke both of his ZBT Crashes. I know ZBT sux but he is afraid he will break more cymbals. He is looking at Zildjian cymbals and he wants some that sound good with metal and are very durable. Any suggestions?[/quote]

Try some A Customs and a teacher.

MeaninglessPhoto 08-23-2006 12:23 PM

Im looking for a 2nd ride. Im going to be using it for gigging. I want a crashable ride with great stick definition and a cutting bell, preferably around the 20"/21" range.

Drum Phil 08-23-2006 12:37 PM

Sweet ride?

HeLLmO 08-23-2006 12:38 PM

sweet ride, without a doubt, i'm gettin' one by the end of the year hopefully

FooBuddy1989 08-23-2006 05:19 PM

yeah i'd say sweet ride, but if you want to get better stick definition i recommend using peter erskine or dave weckl sticks

HeLLmO 08-23-2006 05:20 PM

basically, barrell tips is what your saying

HeLLmO 08-23-2006 06:13 PM

k, 1 last thing, K Custom Ride, 20'', anyone know it's crashability, i love the actual ride and bell more than the sweet ride, but lack of crashability really is a deal breaker

We_Love_Lime 08-23-2006 06:20 PM

on Zildjian the site, you are able to view I belive, riding, the bell, and crashing some cymbals.

HeLLmO 08-23-2006 06:20 PM

cool, i'll have to do that then

We_Love_Lime 08-23-2006 06:22 PM

Yeah, its where the sound clips are, theres a little tabish menu, that you bring down, and it tells you what you want hit really.

saars 08-23-2006 07:35 PM

[QUOTE=HeLLmO]sweet ride, without a doubt, i'm gettin' one by the end of the year hopefully[/QUOTE]



chyeah!! I love my sweet ride! :)

FooBuddy1989 08-23-2006 09:43 PM

^^^me too bro

Static 08-23-2006 10:10 PM

Blech. I hate sweet rides.

/runs

HeLLmO 08-23-2006 10:17 PM

i dunno, i'm totally torn now, i dig the sweet ride, but the K Custom ride sounds better in all aspects except i just don't know if i can crash it. SOMEONE TELL ME

Static 08-23-2006 10:19 PM

Yes. It's very crashable. Almost as much as a K Ride.

I played on two at GC. Very nice. Kinda "twangy" though. Not in a good way.

HeLLmO 08-23-2006 10:27 PM

which K ride do you have? just a regular K ride?

Static 08-23-2006 10:29 PM

Yeah.

HeLLmO 08-23-2006 10:35 PM

sweet. i think i'm gonna go with the 22'' K ride or the 20'' K Custom ride, goin' by the sound clips on Indoorstorm.com i think i'm gonna go with the K Custom


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