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nowitzki 11-02-2005 07:46 AM

[QUOTE=aaron1]i've only had a chance to listen to metropolis II and watched the portnoy DVD. is it they're less accessable stuff? it just didn't click with me i guess[/QUOTE]

You've listened to the whole of Metropolis Pt. 2: SFAM? Well that's regarded as one of their best albums by most fans, but it is very progressive so won't appeal to all.

[QUOTE=beaNN]I've got scenes from a memory which I really like but is it just me or is Train Of Thought and the new one really dull albums? I just find Train Of Thought really boring.[/QUOTE]

I don't find ToT boring whatsoever, I think its an amazing album. But it is far less varied than all the others.

You should get Images & Words :thumb:

Lord Abortion 11-02-2005 07:50 AM

The haunting riffs that introduce alot of the ToT songs are brilliant, such as the Honour thy father one

dUSK 11-02-2005 07:52 AM

The intro to As I Am is excellent as well. In fact, that album as a whole just seems a lot darker/heavier than their other works.

nowitzki 11-02-2005 08:48 AM

Listen to LaBrie on The Killing Hand, live at the Marquee at about 4.35. Wow.

scenesfromatheater 11-02-2005 10:20 AM

YYYeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.......that's one quality scream. Never knew he could do it that well.:lol:

red barchetta 11-02-2005 10:27 AM

[QUOTE=nowitzki]Listen to LaBrie on The Killing Hand, live at the Marquee at about 4.35. Wow.[/QUOTE]
thats the highlight of the whole cd :thumb:

Triangle 11-02-2005 11:17 AM

[QUOTE=scenesfromatheater]YYYeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.......that's one quality scream. Never knew he could do it that well.:lol:[/QUOTE]
hehe, awesome. I love that part.

I laugh when their old singer attempts to pull it off on the album and fails.

scenesfromatheater 11-02-2005 11:23 AM

Where abouts is it in the studio version??

Shred Danson 11-02-2005 11:26 AM

[QUOTE=G_Mac07]The intro to As I Am is excellent as well. In fact, that album as a whole just seems a lot darker/heavier than their other works.[/QUOTE]

Yes indeed..."Endless Sacrifice" was a great one, too...it kinda reminded me of a prog version of "Sanitarium".

Ad Absurdum 11-02-2005 11:42 AM

[quote=Med57]:) Yeah, I'd say they're alternative/progressive rock, for want of a better genre. They're hard to classify really though. There are definitely elements of prog in their music, anyway.

I'm pretty sure that [I]Space Dye Vest [/I]hasn't been played live only as a gesture to Kevin Moore, as it's pretty much his song. I don't think there are any legal reasons why they couldn't play it live, if they really wanted to. The band would own the rights to it, I'd imagine.[/quote]
They definately have prog elements. I think that the comment saying they aren't was tongue-in-cheek, saying that they aren't prog because they don't have long solos etc. They have long songs, concept albums and strange time signatures which are defining characteristics of a prog band in my opinion.

bwnstl 11-02-2005 11:50 AM

[QUOTE=nowitzki]Listen to LaBrie on The Killing Hand, live at the Marquee at about 4.35. Wow.[/QUOTE]

Could someone possibly YSI that album to me?
email is [email]bjwumr@gmail.com[/email] if someone would be so kind. :)

beaNN 11-02-2005 12:18 PM

[QUOTE=nowitzki]You've listened to the whole of Metropolis Pt. 2: SFAM? Well that's regarded as one of their best albums by most fans, but it is very progressive so won't appeal to all.



I don't find ToT boring whatsoever, I think its an amazing album. But it is far less varied than all the others.

You should get Images & Words :thumb:[/QUOTE]
Yea, i've got it but I am shamed to say that i've not really listened to it!

shamed-angel 11-02-2005 12:30 PM

[QUOTE=nowitzki]That can't be right, it's a Dream Theater song, it's just the band's desicion not to play it.[/QUOTE]
Kevin Moore wrote and performed all of it except a vocal track. If you look at the Awake CD cover, it's under a different publisher and Kevin owns the rights.
[url]http://www.mikeportnoy.com/about/mpfaq/showquestion.asp?menu=about&faq=1&fldAuto=382[/url]
Mike Portnoy's statement about the live performance of SDV.
[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]The haunting riffs that introduce alot of the ToT songs are brilliant, such as the Honour thy father one[/QUOTE]
The intros to Stream of Consciousness and In The Name Of God are two of the most haunting guitar riffs I've ever heard.

scenesfromatheater 11-02-2005 02:22 PM

I love SOC only when Vacant is played before. It creates an incredible atmosphere...then SOC just comes in with the heavy stuff.

3FingeredHoek 11-02-2005 02:48 PM

[QUOTE=bwnstl]Could someone possibly YSI that album to me?
email is [email]bjwumr@gmail.com[/email] if someone would be so kind. :)[/QUOTE]

Yeah me too please, [email]esandy24@hotmail.com[/email].

shamed-angel 11-02-2005 02:53 PM

[QUOTE=scenesfromatheater]I love SOC only when Vacant is played before. It creates an incredible atmosphere...then SOC just comes in with the heavy stuff.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, it's a brilliant continuation and progression on the themes presented in Vacant.

scenesfromatheater 11-02-2005 02:56 PM

[QUOTE=shamed-angel]Yeah, it's a brilliant continuation and progression on the themes presented in Vacant.[/QUOTE]

To put it intelligently.:thumb:

shamed-angel 11-02-2005 04:23 PM

I'm a genius, what do you expect. My music teacher calls me the "teacher", and I freequently make her jaw drop with my wild amount of knowledge.

scenesfromatheater 11-02-2005 04:26 PM

[QUOTE=shamed-angel]I'm a genius, what do you expect. My music teacher calls me the "teacher", and I freequently make her jaw drop with my wild amount of knowledge.[/QUOTE]

My music teacher say I'm the best guitarist he's ever had in his class. And he's been teaching for about 10 years.

shamed-angel 11-02-2005 04:27 PM

Well... isn't that sweet. I can't play guitar very well, but I've been playing bass for a good 5 years. How long have you been playing?

I could play the Metropolis tapping solo when I was 12... :upset:

Jev 11-02-2005 04:30 PM

[QUOTE=shamed-angel]I'm a genius, what do you expect. My music teacher calls me the "teacher", and I freequently make her jaw drop with my wild amount of knowledge.[/QUOTE]
I'm in a class full of tards. (well most of them are) Most of them can't grasp the circle of fifths :upset:
I've only been playing guitar 1 1/2 years and I'm not so great. Bands learning Beyond this life minus the solo 'cos i'm not that good yet.

nowitzki 11-02-2005 04:31 PM

You guys who want Live At The Marquee, I'll AIM it too you if you want.

Jev 11-02-2005 04:31 PM

I wish I had AIM.

shamed-angel 11-02-2005 04:33 PM

[QUOTE=Happy]I'm in a class full of tards. (well most of them are) Most of them can't grasp the circle of fifths :upset:
I've only been playing guitar 1 1/2 years and I'm not so great. Bands learning Beyond this life minus the solo 'cos i'm not that good yet.[/QUOTE]

I tend to get mixed up and write on treble clef in bass clef. And sometimes even the other way round! My calss is full of retards who play violins and piano badly and kids who only listen to Slayer.

nowitzki 11-02-2005 04:33 PM

[QUOTE=shamed-angel]I could play the Metropolis tapping solo when I was 12... :upset:[/QUOTE]

Can't you play it any more then? I really want to be able to play it accurately, that's the only part of the song I can't play, except for the section after that little break (well when they play live the big break) up until the last verse.

shamed-angel 11-02-2005 04:35 PM

I can still play it, but in the first years of comp I didn't have many friends and so spent the first year of bass playing practising for 3 or 4 hours a night. I only broke out of the habit about a year ago, when I made some real friends.

I can play the bit you're talking about, but I can only play it on a good day, sometimes I'll pull it off, sometimes it'll suck major bass and I'll keep messing up. My band covers Metropolis and Voices live, so I need to keep on the nift.

scenesfromatheater 11-02-2005 04:44 PM

[QUOTE=shamed-angel]My band covers Metropolis and Voices live, so I need to keep on the nift.[/QUOTE]

:upset: ...when we play a cover live, it's usually Cowboys from Hell or something easy like that.

shamed-angel 11-02-2005 04:47 PM

We cover a few Pain of Savation and Symphony X songs too... But I wanted to start a metal band, like Pantera or Slayer or something... To do in my spare time.

scenesfromatheater 11-02-2005 04:49 PM

[QUOTE=shamed-angel]We cover a few Pain of Savation and Symphony X songs too... But I wanted to start a metal band, like Pantera or Slayer or something... To do in my spare time.[/QUOTE]

We are only good enough to cover the odd Slayer or Pantera song, we did a Trivium song once also.

Toaster 11-02-2005 04:53 PM

There's been a lot of showboating lately.. put your skills where your mouth is. Post some DT solos!


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