I need to get another Tool album...

I already have Lataerus (or however you spell it). What should i get first, Aenima or Undertow?

Aenima.

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]I need to get another Tool album...

I already have Lataerus (or however you spell it). What should i get first, Aenima or Undertow?[/QUOTE]

Ænima. Has more emotion in it than Lateralus, and has excellently crafted songs that have a heavy arty, progressive feel to them. Undertow would be very different from Lateralus. And while still a good album, it's not great like Ænima and Lateralus.

I <3 Ænima.

You can't go wrong. I'd say Aenima, but Lateralus is just as good. :thumb:

[QUOTE=Shadius]Ænima. Has more emotion in it than Lateralus, and has excellently crafted songs that have a heavy arty, progressive feel to them. Undertow would be very different from Lateralus. And while still a good album, it's not great like Ænima and Lateralus.

I <3 Ænima.[/QUOTE]

Ganna have to disagree about Ænima being more emotional then Lateralus... don't wanna get into details though.

Ænima is definitely the album you want to start off with because it eases you into the more epic progressive stuff: Third Eye and Pu****.

Eulogy is long, but its theme and choruses are easy to follow.

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]Ganna have to disagree about Ænima being more emotional then Lateralus... don't wanna get into details though.[/QUOTE]

Feel free to. I love both albums, I just see Lateralus as being more calculating/spiritual than emotional, and Ænima being more emotional than calculating, generally. I'm not saying Lateralus is emotionless, it's just a different flavour.

[QUOTE=In Chains 36]Ænima is definitely the album you want to start off with because it eases you into the more epic progressive stuff: Third Eye and Pu****.

Eulogy is long, but its theme and choruses are easy to follow.[/QUOTE]

I agree, When i first started listening to Tool, I bought Lateralus. It was a little overwhelming at first, I then listened to Aenima. And i started to understand there sound more then.

[QUOTE=Remedy]I agree, When i first started listening to Tool, I bought Lateralus. It was a little overwhelming at first, I then listened to Aenima. And i started to understand there sound more then.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I'm kind of glad I started with Aenima in the first place. Then onto Lateralus, then Undertow, then Opiate.

[QUOTE=Kage]I actually have some things to add to your story that go along with it well and would help prove it, but I can't be bothered to go into it now, it's late and I'm tired.[/QUOTE]
I'd love to see them, whenever you have the time to get around it.

I started with Lateralus, and you're all right, it wasn't the right choice. I was in the record store, and my Tool freak friend wouldn't answer his phone, so I was like "the one to get has to be the one with Schism", so I did. It was a mistake. I listened to the album once, then put it away for like a month until I listened to Aenima at my friends house. Aenima is the "Tool Can-Opener" for your brain.

Strange... me and my friend were different as we bought lateralus and fell in love with it. That was the only cd I'd listen to for like the following 2 months tell we decided to buy Aenima, and even then I felt I was betraying Lateralus, though I loved Aenima.

Lateralus is still my favorite today... and not just by Tool.

Lateralus is a sheer experience...yet to listen to it in that crazy spiral order or whatever!

Aenima is awesome, at the moment H. is my favourite mainly cos of those lyrics...

I totally agree that Aenima should be listened to for weening oneself into Tool.

And err, how d'you get the "AE" symbol??

Lateralus is the best though, IMO. Aenima was just the right place to start, Lateralus just didn't click.

Lateralus is my favorite album. On iTunes it shows what you listen to the most, and how many times. The top 13 songs are Lateralus, like this:

Ticks and Leeches - 156 (I had to listen to this song over and over when I as learning to play it)
Lateralus - 94
Parabola - 89
The Grudge - 87
The Patient - 60
Schism - 59
Parabol - 58
Eon Blue Apocalypse - 57 (I have no idea how that happened)
Reflection - 54
Triad - 50
Disposition - 48
Mantra - 45
Faaip De Oiad - 32

I don't think I've ever listened to Faaip De Oiad without listening to the whole album, so I've listened to the album 32 times on my iPod. By far my favorite album.

Completely unrelated, and far more superficial and pointless, I just don't get Maynards hair at all. I really don't. :lol:

I know he's worn wigs in the past, while he's performing with Tool and APC, and on a lot of APC stuff he seems to be wearing different wigs, which is fine.

What I don't get is, back in like.. 93', he had a receeding hairline. Long hair but receeding, you know what I mean, if you've seen any really old interviews with him, or live concert footage from back then, he looks like he'll be fully bald in a few years. And in the coming years, he goes completely skinhead for Tool for a long time. Then, in an interview I have of him like ten years later, his hair is cut smart and short, he's wering elton John glasses, and his hairline isn't receeding, and it's almost certainly not a wig of any kind.

Which makes me wonder, which hairstyles of his ARE wigs, and which arn't? What's the deal? Magic hair re-growth shampoo?

He probably uses like Rogain 952,158,745,965,213. My drum teacher does. He grows his hair back down past his head in like a month and a half after shaving it bald. It's nuts.

How many fvcking tracklists have we seen in the last 20 pages?!

[QUOTE=In Chains 36]How many fvcking tracklists have we seen in the last 20 pages?![/QUOTE]

See the number I put for the Rogain power :thumb:

Question: For the Ænima tour, did they play Pu**** Live from salival, or did they play the original version for a while?

Original for a while, hence the Maynard fights fan video.

[QUOTE=karl0s]Lateralus is a sheer experience...yet to listen to it in that crazy spiral order or whatever!

Aenima is awesome, at the moment H. is my favourite mainly cos of those lyrics...

I totally agree that Aenima should be listened to for weening oneself into Tool.

And err, how d'you get the "AE" symbol??[/QUOTE]


alt+146 Æ

[QUOTE=Kage]I didn't mean in terms of heaviness/lightness or style. It has more to do with how well the songs are writen, regardless of the style they're written in. Most of the songs on Mer de Noms had a pretty consistent feel, but I felt that a few of the latter songs on Mer De Noms seemed just a little haph-hazard and not as carefully planned out and well-executed as songs like Hollow, Magdalena, Rose, Orestes, etc.[/QUOTE]

thats a good way to put it, i just tried the alternate order, and it works beautifully :thumb:

I don't write posts very often, but after reading a few of these posts about alternate track orders I figured I'd give you my alternate track listing for Lateralus. This one is fairly simple, just play the tracks in order of the Fibonacci sequence (and all the numbers left behind by the sequence). In other words, tracks: 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13; and 4, 6, 7, 9, 10, 11, 12.

I've always noticed that there was a division in the songs in Lateralus. About half the songs seem to be about social things, a relationships with people, that type of thing. The other half are the much deeper philosophical songs. If you'll notice, the Fibonacci divide splits these up perfectly (The Grudge, The Patient, Schism, Tick & Leeches, Faaip de Oiad; Parabol/Parabola, Lateralus, Dispostion/Reflection/Triad). Also, the end of The Patient flows into Schism a lot better than Parabola in my opinion.

Sorry for adding to the confusion, but I thought you might be interested.

nobody's confused, were just trying to listen to the cd. and we have all these ways to do it, i say screw it just put it in and press play. that has worked everytime.

I usually just listen to tracks 1,3,5 and 8.

Perhaps 7, if im in a good mood...

Here's something ive never understood about Faalip de Oidad:

i know it translates to voice of god in some language, and i know about the hoax story of the area 51 guy. but, what does that have to do with "voice of god" and why are the words in that language anyways?

Good question, I never understood that either. Why is DieEierVonSatan in German? Some wierd questions that maybe someone can answer.

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]I usually just listen to tracks 1,3,5 and 8.

Perhaps 7, if im in a good mood...[/QUOTE]

That's a lame way to listen to an album that's a coherent piece of music and not three radio singles thrown in with trash filler.


As to Faaip de Oiad, I've put a little thought into it and I believe that perhaps it's like they're trying to show the way true messages and construed by the media, as his voice is hidden behind the wall of static that intensifies until you cannot even hear the voice anymore. It symbolizes something to do with the perversion of truth.

As for it being in the obscure language, it's I think it's in that language for the reason that it sounds cool and is indeed obscure (with obscurity being an obsession for Maynard)

is there an offical message board for tool or a fan message board for tool out there

a link would help thanks..

This thread is all you need really, there is a forum on tooshed. But that is full of druggies.