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Leper 09-05-2005 12:00 AM

[QUOTE=Illmatic]Anyone here remember that one kid who said that Angus Young was the best guitarist of all time?[/QUOTE]

One?? Don't you mean those thousands who have all eventually disappeared?

Illmatic 09-05-2005 12:05 AM

No, this one kid didn't let up. He created a thread in it that quickly turned into a huge argument/flame war between him and most of the regs in here. I remember two points that he raised where that Angus Young was great because he got his own guitar brand (and also, that all talented guitarists used Gibsons and Fenders were overrated and for untalented guitarists) and that he was the most entertaining live guitarist.

Leper 09-05-2005 12:13 AM

[QUOTE=Illmatic]No, this one kid didn't let up. He created a thread in it that quickly turned into a huge argument/flame war between him and most of the regs in here. I remember two points that he raised where that Angus Young was great because he got his own guitar brand (and also, that all talented guitarists used Gibsons and Fenders were overrated and for untalented guitarists) and that he was the most entertaining live guitarist.[/QUOTE]

Really? hehe I don't remember that. I'm guessing you had a good time with that one eh?

DeusExMachina 09-05-2005 12:17 AM

[QUOTE=Illmatic]No, this one kid didn't let up. He created a thread in it that quickly turned into a huge argument/flame war between him and most of the regs in here. I remember two points that he raised where that Angus Young was great because he got his own guitar brand (and also, that all talented guitarists used Gibsons and Fenders were overrated and for untalented guitarists) and that he was the most entertaining live guitarist.[/QUOTE]
When did this happen? I don't remember it.

magicbus 09-05-2005 12:19 AM

I don't think I could even make a list.

Illmatic 09-05-2005 12:20 AM

This was a few months ago, like March or April or something, I think.

barrett420 09-05-2005 12:20 AM

I never come in this thread I know Schyma hangs out in here and thinks really high of y'all so I figured I'd post here too. I love Classic Rock and know abit about alot of different and diverse bands. Lately I've been getting into a little Zappa and CAN and all of that psychedelia. I wish to post here in the near future. :)

Charvy 09-05-2005 12:23 AM

In classic (hard) rock the guitar solo is often an important part. While classic rock seems to regain its popularity (not so much in Holland I think) I wonder if the younger ones are willing to practise their buds of to become a guitar heroes and play in bands, like in the past. Or is this a thing from the past and do they only listen to the music nowadays ... :confused:

(By the way, I'm 43 and play guitar myself in the classic rock cover band Arrowhead from Amsterdam)

barrett420 09-05-2005 12:26 AM

Soloing isn't the only part of being a great guitarist.

loathed 09-05-2005 12:31 AM

[quote=barrett420]Soloing isn't the only part of being a great guitarist.[/quote]

true...

RockAndRoll 09-05-2005 12:34 AM

I know young kids who are willing to work hard at it to be great soloists.

Illmatic 09-05-2005 12:36 AM

[QUOTE=RockAndRoll]I know young kids who are willing to work hard at it to be great soloists.[/QUOTE]

Aren't they just missing the point, then?

RockAndRoll 09-05-2005 12:42 AM

[QUOTE=Illmatic]Aren't they just missing the point, then?[/QUOTE]
um... no. :confused:

Illmatic 09-05-2005 12:45 AM

What's the point of taking up guitar just to be a great soloist?

RockAndRoll 09-05-2005 12:50 AM

[QUOTE=Illmatic]What's the point of taking up guitar just to be a great soloist?[/QUOTE]
I never said the took up guitar just to be a great soloist. I said they're willing to work hard to become great soloists.

Besides you can still have fun just being a soloist.

Leper 09-05-2005 12:56 AM

Besides if that's what you want to do, then why not?

Illmatic 09-05-2005 12:59 AM

Then I stand corrected.

RockAndRoll 09-05-2005 12:59 AM

[QUOTE=leppermessiah]Besides if that's what you want to do, then why not?[/QUOTE]
Exactly.

Leper 09-05-2005 01:07 AM

I, myself, would be happy just to get the basics down, nevermind soloing. :rolleyes:

Ulysses 09-05-2005 03:04 AM

Being able to write good lyrics and music and being able to compose good original material is, in my opinion more important than being a virtuoso who can play fast scales or brilliant solo's. I mean Jeff Beck is an awesome guitarist but he has the inability to write great songs.

jpj 09-05-2005 07:56 AM

[QUOTE=Ulysses]Being able to write good lyrics and music and being able to compose good original material is, in my opinion more important than being a virtuoso who can play fast scales or brilliant solo's. I mean Jeff Beck is an awesome guitarist but he has the inability to write great songs.[/QUOTE]
I'm gonna have to disagree, unless you're talking about lyrics not musical composition.

DeusExMachina 09-05-2005 08:07 AM

[QUOTE=jpj]I'm gonna have to disagree, unless you're talking about lyrics not musical composition.[/QUOTE]
Why do you disagree? No matter how good someone is at soloing, if their music is boring and uninspired, they're not going to get many fans. If brilliant soloing was more important, no one would know who The Beatles were, and Dream Theater would be the biggest band in the world.

jpj 09-05-2005 08:11 AM

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]Why do you disagree? No matter how good someone is at soloing, if their music is boring and uninspired, they're not going to get many fans. If brilliant soloing was more important, no one would know who The Beatles were, and Dream Theater would be the biggest band in the world.[/QUOTE]
Jeff Beck is far from boring and uninspired...

I was just disagreeing with the statement about Beck.

Lunch 09-05-2005 08:49 AM

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]Why do you disagree? No matter how good someone is at soloing, if their music is boring and uninspired, they're not going to get many fans. If brilliant soloing was more important, no one would know who The Beatles were, and Dream Theater would be the biggest band in the world.[/QUOTE]

He was disagreeing specifically about Jeff Beck, not about the entire theory. And personally, I don't find Beck's music very boring and uninspired.

DeusExMachina 09-05-2005 08:49 AM

[QUOTE=jpj]Jeff Beck is far from boring and uninspired...

I was just disagreeing with the statement about Beck.[/QUOTE]
Ohh.... gotcha. I misunderstood. My mistake. I agree, Jeff Beck is awesome.

I agree the Beatles had amazing solos, but they weren't exactly the bread and butter of the Beatles career.

Broken Arrow 09-05-2005 09:01 AM

I'm back and my baseball team is second best in Ontario.

Yes we lost in the finals.

I have yet to find the big deal aabout Jeff Beck, although all I have is Truth. Beck's Bolero is a good song, I can't get into the rest of it.

Lunch 09-05-2005 09:02 AM

My favorite album by him so far is Blow By Blow. Amazing instrumentals (having Terry Bozzio on drums always helps). Truth is good, but I don't like it as much mainly because the vocals annoy me.

And too bad about the finals man, thats rough.

jpj 09-05-2005 09:04 AM

[QUOTE=Livewired]I'm back and my baseball team is second best in Ontario.

Yes we lost in the finals.

I have yet to find the big deal aabout Jeff Beck, although all I have is Truth. Beck's Bolero is a good song, I can't get into the rest of it.[/QUOTE]
Have you heard Blow by Blow? It's way better than Truth.

temporary 09-05-2005 09:10 AM

[QUOTE=Illmatic]That would be retarded if most of those songs were banned...[/QUOTE]

If Gimme Shelter was banned I would flip. Its my favorite song ever, after Won't Get Fooled Again and Comfortably Numb.

@thickasabrick: Its cool, I didn't mean to offend you with my post. I guess I was several pages late with both of those posts (I went to the US Open yesterday.)

robo2448 09-05-2005 09:12 AM

[QUOTE=jpj]Have you heard Blow by Blow? It's way better than Truth.[/QUOTE]

123.

And Obi One Kenodi, none of those songs would be banned. At least, I can't imagine that happening. They just have a little double meaning now.


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