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Jude 09-27-2005 07:27 PM

Lyrically, I think Still Life wins. The story and imagery are just so dark and fantastic and work together perfectly with the music. Some of the rest of the lyrics (BWP for example) are kind of vague and harder to relate to, even if they sound cool.

Kaiwaz 09-27-2005 07:27 PM

Lyrically, Orchid is > then all Opeth's recordings. (IMO)

Deth 09-27-2005 07:30 PM

Orchid is a bit overdone for me. It's oh-so-slightly cheesy, though not in a bad way. Morningrise of course completely slays. The latter day stuff (BWP - D'mation) are good, but not great. GR, I think, has incredible lyrics though.

Kaiwaz 09-27-2005 07:30 PM

[QUOTE=Jude]Lyrically, I think Still Life wins. The story and imagery are just so dark and fantastic and work together perfectly with the music. Some of the rest of the lyrics (BWP for example) are kind of vague and harder to relate to, even if they sound cool.[/QUOTE]


Still Life is brilliant, Lyrically. I really like that concept (Although Orchid has my #1 vote)

Blackwater Park has a story. Get the lyrics down and listen to it over and over. (Blackwater Park is best when It's snowing and [B]FREEZING[/B] cold - IMO)

Kaiwaz 09-27-2005 07:31 PM

[QUOTE=Creeping_Deth]Orchid is a bit overdone for me. It's oh-so-slightly cheesy, though not in a bad way. Morningrise of course completely slays. The latter day stuff (BWP - D'mation) are good, but not great. GR, I think, has incredible lyrics though.[/QUOTE]



:lol: :lol: :lol: you said Orchid was [I]cheesy[/I]
funny stuff

Deth 09-27-2005 07:35 PM

Well, come on the talk of forests, black nights and fog just wears thin. They aren't bad, but you can tell they're the first real lyrics in that vein that Mikeal wrote.

Kaiwaz 09-27-2005 07:36 PM

[QUOTE=Creeping_Deth]GR, I think, has incredible lyrics though.[/QUOTE]

Ghost Reveries has to be my [B]least favorite[/B] when is comes down to lyrics in Opeth's history. It seems they tried too hard and didn't even care about lyrics. It's all choppy, if you read the entire album, it doesn't make sense. The worst lyrics ever written by Opeth. (IMO)

Deth 09-27-2005 07:37 PM

[QUOTE=Flynn]It seems they tried too hard and didn't even care about lyrics.[/QUOTE]
Contradition of the night.

Kaiwaz 09-27-2005 07:38 PM

[QUOTE=Creeping_Deth]Well, come on the talk of forests, black nights and fog just wears thin. They aren't bad, but you can tell they're the first real lyrics in that vein that Mikeal wrote.[/QUOTE]


:lol: It's not brilliant. It's a cliche'

Kaiwaz 09-27-2005 07:38 PM

[QUOTE=Creeping_Deth]Contradition of the night.[/QUOTE]



And...

Deth 09-27-2005 07:41 PM

And you don't seem to notice.

Quit the double posting as well.

Anyway, let's quit arguing. Only 6 weeks till Opeth!

Txus 09-27-2005 07:41 PM

IMO Still Life has the best lyrical content of them all.

Killtacular 09-27-2005 07:48 PM

[QUOTE=Flynn]Blackwater Park has a story. Get the lyrics down and listen to it over and over.[/QUOTE]

No it doesn't, you filthy liar.

Kaiwaz 09-27-2005 07:50 PM

[QUOTE=Creeping_Deth]And you don't seem to notice.

Quit the double posting as well.

Anyway, let's quit arguing. Only 6 weeks till Opeth![/QUOTE]

Yes I do.

I reply whenever I want,

Who's arguing?

Kaiwaz 09-27-2005 07:51 PM

[QUOTE=Scruples]No it doesn't, you filthy liar.[/QUOTE]


Yes it does, open your brain.

Deth 09-27-2005 07:52 PM

My god, seriously, STOP DOUBLE POSTING.

And what's this 'story' in BWP then?

Kaiwaz 09-27-2005 08:00 PM

[QUOTE=Creeping_Deth]My god, seriously, STOP DOUBLE POSTING.

And what's this 'story' in BWP then?[/QUOTE]


Go drink some milk please and shut the hell up. What does it matter, crybaby? I made this thread. I will post whenever I want. (I hardly post)

If you cant' see a story in Blackwater Park, you need to listen harder. Use your imagination. It definately has a story with me, and superb writing helped boost that. :cool:

Kaiwaz 09-27-2005 08:19 PM

[QUOTE=Creeping_Deth]Contradition of the night.[/QUOTE]



Seriously, where are you going with this? ohhhhh I see, you're very random? ADD? It's all good ;) Please explain to me what the h*** you're talking about now. TY. :D

Jude 09-27-2005 08:21 PM

[QUOTE=Flynn]

If you cant' see a story in Blackwater Park, you need to listen harder. Use your imagination. It definately has a story with me, and superb writing helped boost that. :cool:[/QUOTE]
Care to explain what the story in BWP is?

Kaiwaz 09-27-2005 08:26 PM

[QUOTE=Jude]Care to explain what the story in BWP is?[/QUOTE]

You don't know either!?





EDIT: I better not Double Post, Creeping_Deth will throw a sissy-fit.

Killtacular 09-27-2005 08:26 PM

There isn't one, so he can't.

Jude 09-27-2005 08:33 PM

[QUOTE=Flynn]You don't know either!?

[/QUOTE]

You're the only one, buddy. Enlighten us.

Kaiwaz 09-27-2005 08:34 PM

[QUOTE=Scruples]I'm a George Michael fan :lol: [/QUOTE]


Basically the entire album (IMO) is about the future government. Someone sees something they're doing and eventually, at the end...Everything dies. It's his Documentation. Read the lyrics sometime. Reading is helpful ;)

Killtacular 09-27-2005 08:44 PM

In your opinion, eh? Well then, that's not definitive that it has a storyline, is it?

Kaiwaz 09-27-2005 08:47 PM

[QUOTE=Scruples]In your opinion, eh? Well then, that's not definitive that it has a storyline, is it?[/QUOTE]


What do you [I]think[/I] it is?

Killtacular 09-27-2005 08:50 PM

I don't think it's anything, because there's no storyline there. Occasionally, a bunch of unrelated songs are put onto an album with no interlocking theme.

Simon__Thats_All 09-27-2005 09:07 PM

Surely not..

Killtacular 09-27-2005 09:09 PM

Your avatar sickens me. Kudos.
:thumb:

Simon__Thats_All 09-27-2005 09:47 PM

I think it's fantastic :D

Darkness 09-27-2005 09:49 PM

[QUOTE=Flynn]What do you [I]think[/I] it is?[/QUOTE]
Theres no real story there, if you think theres one, then its in your head. Mikeal himself has stated that only MAYH, Still Life and Ghost Reveries have a concept. BWP has awesome lyrics though, he paints a wonderful picture for us. :thumb:

relliK 09-27-2005 10:39 PM

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]What? Heaviest album? This is the softest besides D'nation. Even the heavy parts of this album aren't even close to Deliverance or MAYH or BWP. So yes, I do deny that the heavy parts of the album are possibly the heaviest of their career.[/QUOTE]

Well, as Flynn said.To each his own.I never said it was the heaviest, I said it was one of the heaviest.IMO Deliverance remains as the heaviest.You're crazy if you think the heavy parts dont come close to the albums you listed.

I suppose the beginning of GoP, or it at about 6:30 isnt heavy.

The Baying of the Hounds at 6:00 at an almost symphonic BM moment, not heavy at all.

The first verse on Beneath the Mire, the final part of Harlequin Forest, The Grand Conjuration.All p[COLOR=Black]us[/COLOR]sy s[COLOR=Black]hi[/COLOR]t huh?

Again, you're crazy.

relliK 09-27-2005 10:47 PM

[QUOTE=Flynn]My thoughts exactly. Most of the people I know that listen to Opeth or know them, can't stand Orchid and Morningrise. [B]To each His Own[/B] right? I totally respect that. Here's the way I see it: If you like it, like it, if you don't then don't. The only thing that matters is that you're happy. I'm very happy with Orchid and Morningrise. Both of those albums have changed my life forever.

Yes, Orchid is definately the most revolutionary debut album ever recorded. (IMO) :thumb:














[I]

''Arrival...I saw her shadow in the darkness
Awaiting me like the night awaits the day!
Standing silent, smiling at my presence!
A black candle holds the only light''[/I][/QUOTE]

I personally get annoyed when someone says that both those albums suck or arent as good as the newer stuff.Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but to say they dont match the newer stuff is just ignorant.They are in many ways even better than the newer stuff.I wish people would get past the production on them to see that.

Might I add, I find the production on them to be great.I'm happy with an album's production as long as I can hear all the music.It comes in crystal clear on both albums.Really, its just the vocals that sound a bit off.They sound dry, and have lots of reverb.Either way, I wouldnt change a thing about them.

Slapping Penguin 09-28-2005 01:35 AM

Well Orchid is amazing. Period.

Simon__Thats_All 09-28-2005 01:49 AM

Your avatar is amazing also.

lost_profits 09-28-2005 04:31 AM

MAYH or Still Life for lyrics.

Special Brew 09-28-2005 04:55 AM

[QUOTE=Slapping Penguin]Well Opeth is amazing. Period.[/QUOTE]
Fix'd.

Slapping Penguin 09-28-2005 06:15 AM

Hahah indeed

Jude 09-28-2005 08:26 AM

[QUOTE=Flynn]Basically the entire album (IMO) is about the future government. Someone sees something they're doing and eventually, at the end...Everything dies. It's his Documentation. Read the lyrics sometime. Reading is helpful ;)[/QUOTE]

Um....

the2stranger 09-28-2005 09:01 AM

stop the aguing people

we all have our right to have opinions, and yes I see a story in BWP as well,.
I don't care if Mikeal intended it to be a concept album or not, I see a very nice story in it.

[indian]now let us all smoke the peace pipe :smoke:[/indian]

IvortheEngineDriver 09-28-2005 09:44 AM

Here's the thing I noticed about Ghost Reveries:

Its a completely new direction the band is going in. I mean, come on people, you really expect them to make another BWP or MorningRise? We are all musicians (most of us, I think?)...who wants to play the same **** over and over? Am I dissapointed in the album...yeah, a little, I was really expecting more harder stuff. Granted, Ghost of Perdition is a BAD *** song, I just wish there was more like it on the album. Do I dislike them for it? of course not! They are going in the direction they deem fit for them.

The great things I noted for the album, as someone else mentioned, was the production. It is pretty **** good and the song structures are a lot more complicated. You can really tell how they have all improved as musicians from their 3 year hiatus. Most notably, Lopez' drumming is absolutely amazing!!!!

Well...that's my take


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