well the argument is that all grind sounds like repulsion and stuff like daughters is metalcore, and stuff that's too punky either gets written off as crust or pv

oh and i forgot about screamo like the map says we're ****ed

and cold like december

one's ultra thrashy, the other's ultra punky

also, giving mesa verde a second chance, because i can't understand how so many people i agree with actually gave this good reviews
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anyhow

failing hard

triple post to compensate for failing argument

One post making fun of grind elitists.

One post in relation to the argument.

One post whoring an album/saying I'll give Mesa Verde another shot.

What are you talking about exactly?

Oh and I can't recall when I've ever seen you post about screamo so IDK how valid your opinion on the subject is.
[QUOTE=AA-12;17749313]failing hard[/QUOTE]
Sorry for backing my opinion, I'll never do that again.

I'll just make blanket statements, that's how you become right.

rap is pretty ****in same-y bros

the argument is moot every single genre is filled with soundalikes even avant garde there isnt one that is more same-y than the others they are all equally derivative

but i still like most of them, even the same-y bands in them as long as they are the same as a good band

Also, saying rap doesn't have ****-tons of side projects is a huge ****ing joke.

Just look at Wu-Tang or Kool Keef.

/argument

Oh and Mesa Verde's vocals kind of remind me of Modest Mouse (though they rarely ever had screaming, but even the cleans).

I like the Orchid-rip off + post rock influence thing they have going on. I guess I just didn't listen intensively enough previously.

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Sorry for backing my opinion, I'll never do that again.

I'll just make blanket statements, that's how you become right.[/QUOTE]

stop being a total fa[SIZE="2"]g[/SIZE]got

not to mention 9 out of 10 rap songs are featuring another rapper which is about the equivalent of collabos and side projects in other genres

speaking of aiden baker is like the lil wayne of drone/ambient/shoegaze i swear that guy has done a collabo with everyone else in the genre

[QUOTE]Oh and I can't recall when I've ever seen you post about screamo so IDK how valid your opinion on the subject is.[/QUOTE]

i was jk bro

keep that blood pressure low

Why the hell am I the only person who's "worked up" when they disagree with people?

I'm not the one name-calling people for refuting my baseless argument here.
[QUOTE=AA-12;17749322]stop being a total fa[SIZE="2"]g[/SIZE]got[/QUOTE]
Learn to back up your opinion.

And thanks for telling me I fail hard for disagreeing with you.

But seriously, listen to any of those bands I listed, the genre is a lot less same-y than most **** out there.

[QUOTE=witchxrapist;17749321]Oh and Mesa Verde's vocals kind of remind me of Modest Mouse (though they rarely ever had screaming, but even the cleans).

I like the Orchid-rip off + post rock influence thing they have going on. I guess I just didn't listen intensively enough previously.[/QUOTE]

Anferny.

[QUOTE=witchxrapist;17749329]Anferny.[/QUOTE]

yeah thats pretty much what i meant. they have all the bases covered, got the screamo stuff, the "emotional hardcore" ****, and the post rock stuff. the end result is honestly less than the sum of the parts though it really is fairly bland, but alas it has all the bits and pieces i like so its fairly enjoyable listening.

Yeah, I'm actually really enjoying this right now, but I can't help but think I should probably be listening to Envy or something.

A lot of these riffs are like, "wait, isn't this from an Orchid song?" :lol:

yeah it all feels very (word of the day) same-y. like each of those three bases sounds like it was kinda ripped from a band that specializes in that sound and does it better.

envy is king. their last couple albums have been OMGOMGOMGOMG, well i guess not albums but insomniac doze and abyssal. you probably like their older stuff better though.

Riff at 2:22 of No More Bad Future = Epilogue Of A Car Crash...

And I've loved every single thing Envy has done, I used to try and pick favorites, but I really can't.

Chain Wandering Deeply and A Road Of Winds The Water Builds are definitely my favorite songs by them though.

I think Mohinder, Orchid, Anomie, and Envy are the most ripped off bands in the whole genre.

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A lot of these riffs are like, "wait, isn't this from an Orchid song?" :lol:[/QUOTE]

thats pretty unusual

footprints, sinking story, and eternity are all ace too. now that i think about i probably couldnt pick a favorite either.

btw josh, anthropophagus rules

i havent even gotten to the part where the cannibal rips a baby out of the mothers womb yet and id recommend it

[QUOTE=AA-12;17749338]thats pretty unusual[/QUOTE]

I'm talking blatantly lifted from songs.

Why are you acting all smug/pissy right now Josh?

Anthony and I are allowed to like generic screamo if you're allowed to like generic rap, settle down.

[QUOTE=Nepenthe;17749340]footprints, sinking story, and eternity are all ace too. now that i think about i probably couldnt pick a favorite either.[/QUOTE]

I hate how everyone is like, "omg nu-Envy is so boringggggg," or talking about how they took the electronics on the Thursday split, "too seriously."

I mean, yeah, Thursday's keyboardist gets out of hand with the programming on their half, but Envy's side is awesome (not to say Thursday's isn't).

The band has been consistently good since their first EP.

Oh, I got a DS, been playing Pokémon Diamond mad a lot today.

josh doesnt like generic rap

generic rap is like shawty lo or memphis bleek

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpeye9hpWvQ[/url]

[QUOTE=illmitch;17749344]josh doesnt like generic rap

generic rap is like shawty lo or memphis bleek[/QUOTE]

The whole argument is ****ing retarded.

I was just trying to show Anthony what is, in my opinion, one of the best emo records of the past five years, gawsh.

the fetus-devouring scene wasnt as graphic as i had hoped :-(

[QUOTE=Meatplow;17749345][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpeye9hpWvQ[/url][/QUOTE]
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an unusual variation on the adb post

scruffy gonna die the way he lived