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TheBigMachine 11-13-2006 02:10 AM

Oshi. Well.
There you go.

FA 11-13-2006 02:36 AM

poor stupid sloth...and all this time...

RunAmokRampant 11-13-2006 06:35 AM

Wow, there's been a lot of drama here recently. I respected Sloth, now I don't know what to think.

Surf 11-13-2006 06:41 AM

This is the S&L version of Watergate.

I'm going to adapt it into a film.

TojesDolan 11-13-2006 11:11 AM

Eh, I don't really blame him, I still like him because he is a nice guy.

And Burton... you silly you. I'll comment more on this later. I'm being watched.

TheBigMachine 11-13-2006 05:25 PM

The tofu cube was better, Tojes :(

I liked Sloth too, but oh well.

TojesDolan 11-13-2006 07:56 PM

But... I like the milk!

Besides I don't think It'd be nice to ask for a change so fast.

Anyway, I'm here to be Sloth's advocate. In my opinion, what he did wasn't right at all, but at least someone should inform him what happened, and we as a community can't turn our backs against him. The fault was indeed bad, and it's not cool at all to plagiarise other people's material, but we pretty much have been knowing Sloth for a while, and even if he did copy all that material... Well. I don't know.

We just shouldn't have judged that badly. Maybe those other webs are his, who knows? The internet is all devious, you know.

What I'm trying to say is, let's just let this slip, after all it's the internets, guys.

Cool? :)

SubtleDagger 11-13-2006 08:02 PM

They're not his, I checked timestamps and people's names, they don't correspond to him posting them

I wouldn't dare let it slip because I don't appreciate special treatment, especially for someone who has lied to people on this forum and taken advantage of their time and effort; users like Surf wrote out huge crits on "his" material and that's entirely worthless since it has no value to him

I'm not about to hold a grudge, he wrote decent songs for two years on this site, I am just utterly disappointed that one of the main people in our community was lying to make himself look good, and he should be punished for that

slack 11-13-2006 08:10 PM

His myspace is private now :upset:

TojesDolan 11-13-2006 08:23 PM

[QUOTE=SubtleDagger]They're not his, I checked timestamps and people's names, they don't correspond to him posting them
[/QUOTE]

Oh well but he's been honest for quite a while. I'm not saying let it slip, it'd be good if you told him why the ban was extended or something. You know, be a nice moderator and all. It's not like someone will suddenly spam this place, and it'd be just nice to do that. Say, community service.

-_-

OK don't do it of you don't want to.

[QUOTE=SubtleDagger]I wouldn't dare let it slip because I don't appreciate special treatment, especially for someone who has lied to people on this forum and taken advantage of their time and effort; users like Surf wrote out huge crits on "his" material and that's entirely worthless since it has no value to him
[/QUOTE]

Understandable and correct. Remember I also took my time reading his stuff. Not so much lately, but in the past, and well... yeah. I don't feel it. Maybe I don't care about my work or something. But you are right, justice, despite not being fair at all, is justice anyway. I respect it.

And uh... maybe he was going to tell us one day?

I don't know. Well... It's just weird to use other people's materials. But whatever.

[QUOTE=SubtleDagger]I'm not about to hold a grudge, he wrote decent songs for two years on this site, I am just utterly disappointed that one of the main people in our community was lying to make himself look good, and he should be punished for that
[/QUOTE]

On a more comedic note,

hey burt if i plag too are you going to be sad or what

cmon say it

it wont hurt



slack: Yeah I know. Maybe he'll never comeback.

:'(

I'll just critique him and be normal, but I'm sure the first post in whatever he posts (if he ever posts again) will be "lol where did u steal it lol"

...

Children at the internets.

SubtleDagger 11-13-2006 08:29 PM

[QUOTE=TojesDoLan;13624587]Oh well but he's been honest for quite a while. I'm not saying let it slip, it'd be good if you told him why the ban was extended or something. You know, be a nice moderator and all. It's not like someone will suddenly spam this place, and it'd be just nice to do that. Say, community service.

-_-

OK don't do it of you don't want to.[/QUOTE]
It's not like he can't read the thread
[QUOTE]Understandable and correct. Remember I also took my time reading his stuff. Not so much lately, but in the past, and well... yeah. I don't feel it. Maybe I don't care about my work or something. But you are right, justice, despite not being fair at all, is justice anyway. I respect it.

And uh... maybe he was going to tell us one day?

I don't know. Well... It's just weird to use other people's materials. But whatever.[/QUOTE]
The only reason he told us to begin with was because he got caught red-handed, and he neglected to mention the other songs from the start of this year he stole

I doubt it :|

Surf 11-13-2006 08:48 PM

I think I'm more with Burt on this: Plagiarism is never good, under no circumstances is it really forgivable. I think the shame may well be punishment enough - like Toes mentioned, the first post in one of his threads is likely to have something to do with it - I know that I for one would at least Google his work before I commented. But at the end of the day, if he's willing to post original works, then I will handle them in an objective manner. But, like Tojes said, Sloth is a nice guy, he just has to overcome the (for want of a better word) embarrassment at having stolen someone else's work and passed it off as his own.

TojesDolan 11-13-2006 08:56 PM

[QUOTE=SubtleDagger;13624629]It's not like he can't read the thread

The only reason he told us to begin with was because he got caught red-handed, and he neglected to mention the other songs from the start of this year he stole

I doubt it :|[/QUOTE]
Yeah, OK. Well, maybe he will never come back.

And yeah, well, it might be comedy material in the future.

Let's hope he overcomes it.

And Burton, you silly you, you know you'll be all shocked and stuff. Because I'm mexican and you have race problems.

i am the robots 11-13-2006 10:38 PM

[QUOTE=RunAmokRampant;13620873]Wow, there's been a lot of drama here recently. I respected Sloth, now I don't know what to think.[/QUOTE]

I know what you mean man... damn.

Win A Rabbit 11-13-2006 10:59 PM

Plagiarism sucks. I liked alot of Sloth's work. (Edit: Alot of the stuff he posted. :( )

Anyways, this post has part of that piece still in it.

[url]http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13584879&postcount=3[/url]

Just figured I'd tell you.

A_Perfect_Sonnet 11-13-2006 11:16 PM

Everyone still respects me. Awesome.

i am the robots 11-13-2006 11:29 PM

You are so gay APS omfg.

Can I post these lyrics as my own?
[url]http://www.lyricsmania.com/lyrics/through_the_eyes_of_the_dead_lyrics_5255/bloodlust_lyrics_26134/two_inches_from_a_main_artery_lyrics_285504.html[/url]

SubtleDagger 11-13-2006 11:29 PM

Actually I still think your writing sucks >:]

Those lyrics are frgging terrible

A_Perfect_Sonnet 11-13-2006 11:33 PM

I said respects, not "thinks I'm a great writer."

I'm always legit.

i am the robots 11-13-2006 11:35 PM

[QUOTE=SubtleDagger;13625911]Actually I still think your writing sucks >:]

Those lyrics are frgging terrible[/QUOTE]

No way, Anthony Gunnels has gotten so much better since their first album!

edit: Burt, I just noticed your avatar, Concubine/Fault & Fracture = win.

Awesome videor

TheBigMachine 11-14-2006 02:09 AM

APS: You're a fairly crash hot writer though.
Where have you been?

Eleventeen, i enjoyed them too. Have no fear.

FA 11-14-2006 02:11 AM

I am soooo not legit...I plagarize people all the time, I've jacked the last 5 pieces I've written from other forums....















or have I?

i am the robots 11-14-2006 06:39 AM

DUN DUN DUN

[QUOTE=TheBigMachine;13626719]Eleventeen, i enjoyed them too. Have no fear.[/QUOTE]

The Through The Eyes Of The Dead lyrics?

What I said before about Anthony improving was a joke :upset:.

If you compare the work from their first album to that on their second... it's upsetting.

[url]http://www.heavylyrics.com/lyrics/through_the_eyes_of_the_dead_lyrics_2568/beneath_dying_skies_lyrics_83026.html[/url]

Those lyrics probably suck too, but they definately portray going downhill in the first example given.

Eliminator 11-14-2006 06:48 AM

Yeah, those lyrics aren't good.

TojesDolan 11-14-2006 10:29 AM

I've seen better than that. Referrign to the lyrics presented.

On a related note, I'd like to point out I'm not respected because I'm teh bad writor.

Surf 11-14-2006 10:48 AM

I agree with Eliminator, those are pretty bad.

[QUOTE]On a related note, I'd like to point out I'm not respected because I'm teh bad writor.[/QUOTE]

But you DO have a big avatar, I mean lets focus on the important things here.

TojesDolan 11-14-2006 11:14 AM

Yeah I was thinking about making it small again because I get too much attention.

I personally think rep is more important to be quite honest, because having 3700+ is jsut not enough for serious.

pixiesfanyo 11-14-2006 11:17 AM

I don't even know what rep is.

TojesDolan 11-14-2006 11:34 AM

It's like rape, but actually your rectum isn't as violated as the former.

Surf 11-14-2006 12:13 PM

Rape is as easy as clicking a little button.


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