^ Yeah I waited almost all night for something interesting to happen then I go to bed and BAM... posting mayhem.

Just watch, I'm ganna go study now and everyone will come on and start posting...

Okay, he's gone. We can start now.

Yeah lets go :) I just got Nin's still release, it's quality. It has stripped down versions of their songs, i think tool should try and follow this, it would be cool to strip down some songs to acoustic guitar or piano, maybe have it as a bonus disc with the DVD cause we've all been patiently waiting for so long.

/not gonna happen

^ That would be great! But what are the chances... :(

I've already said I'd be glad to do bass backing tracks if someone wants them. :thumb:

[QUOTE=The JoZ]I've already said I'd be glad to do bass backing tracks if someone wants them. :thumb:[/QUOTE]

Part Of Me plz. Its hard to break into that song without the bass intro part.

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]Part Of Me plz. Its hard to break into that song without the bass intro part.[/QUOTE]

Give me 5 minutes.

[QUOTE=Sliptallica]Okay, he's gone. We can start now.[/QUOTE]
That hurts...

[QUOTE=clearvision]And kage has now gone from 6 posts in front of me, to 40...hmm... Just my luck though, i go out and the crazy posting starts[/QUOTE]

Pah, you'll never catch me :p

And 123 on the SFK uploads. Thoug god knows what his gig schedule is like

Oh yeah, it may take me longer than 5 minutes. I'm playing it on my 6 string, and yeah...

Tool is much easier to play on my 4, but I don't have it on me...plus it's got the wrong strings on it :(

No matter, im in no rush. Wont be for a while till I can put it to use with my recordings anyway, as I need to somehow record my recordings first.

You record line in, or with a mic?

Excuses :p

joz, I know your busy right now with part of me and only have your 6 string but if you could sometime mabye do the first 3 min of the grudge... that would be awesome.

I use a mic.

Darkness - Why only the first three minutes? I can play the whole song...

That works to :D. I just didn't want to take 8:36 min of your time...

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]That works to :D. I just didn't want to take 8:36 min of your time...[/QUOTE]

I LOVE playing the Grudge.

But I definetly need to get my four back for that...

Sounds good, definatly no rush though man...

I LOVE playing the Grudge to...

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]Sounds good, definatly no rush though man...

I LOVE playing the Grudge to...[/QUOTE]

Me too....if you do a grudge BT i'll definately post somethin.

I should be having band practice tomorrow, so that means I can get my four string back.

I'll have to re-string it for Tool, but yeah.

I'll take requests, and do them tomorrow.

If you taking a few requests

The Patient
Stinkfist
Jerk Off



(I would feel guity asking for loads, but I know playing tool is not a chore)

What strings do you have on there now?

Do you play with a click track/metronome JoZ? Would be most useful if you told us the tempo you stuck with if you do :) cheers

EDIT : I second the patient...

I would love to have sober and aenima but I'll stick with what is given :)

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]If you taking a few requests

The Patient
Stinkfist
Jerk Off



(I would feel guity asking for loads, but I know playing tool is not a chore)[/QUOTE]

Those songs in particular are not a chore either...

Although I will have to actually put a little effort into Jerk Off, simply because it's one of theirs I haven't actually learned yet

Edit 1: I have my bass tuned low ADGC. The strings are too thick to do DADG.

Edit 2: I have a composition program, which lets me take MIDI files of Tool songs, and play along with them, note for note, assuming the songs are done right. So I use whatever tempo the transcriber has decided on, and so far, they seem to be the correct tempos. This way, I can hear the guitar/bass/drum/vocals if added, yet it's not the real song. I can see what notes I am playing, time signatures, note values, etc...but still hear the song :cool:

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]If you taking a few requests

The Patient
Stinkfist
Jerk Off



(I would feel guity asking for loads, but I know playing tool is not a chore)[/QUOTE]

ooooo the grudge, schism, stinkfist, or Eulogy.

So I'm doing.

Part of Me
Jerk Off
Sober
Stinkfist
Eulogy
Aenima
The Grudge
Schism

Can do, although some of them may not sound 100% like the original (Aenima, Schism)

That's how i play, i learn this riffs on tooltabs. The use a midi file through Guitar pro 4, recognise the riffs and play along. After about 5 times through i can jam along to the proper mp3 for the riff-based songs.

I can play most songs on their own without backing, but some i need the track playing in some form, or at least the beat.

I tend to pick up the cool riffs I like first with tool songs, then fill in the gaps. Im the typical must-learn-everything-but-leave-rytyhm-parts-till-last guitarist.

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]I can play most songs on their own without backing, but some i need the track playing in some form, or at least the beat.

I tend to pick up the cool riffs I like first with tool songs, then fill in the gaps. Im the typical must-learn-everything-but-leave-rytyhm-parts-till-last guitarist.[/QUOTE]

See, I've been playing cello for years, so I learn music by reading it.

I need sheet music to learn songs. Although I did figure out the Parabola riff without it.

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]Im the typical must-learn-everything-but-leave-rytyhm-parts-till-last guitarist.[/QUOTE]

Wow me to.

I play tool stuff for my rythm playing...

I don't find the lead stuff too challenging...well i don't play it fully, like effects and everything. But I love the way adam uses dead notes and such, and his use of the Dmaj Barré, that's why i play tool most of the time.

Anyone else noticed how his solos are often similair? Example : he plays big bends on the 10/12 frets in sober and the same thing in swamp song....

[QUOTE=The JoZ]See, I've been playing cello for years, so I learn music by reading it.

I need sheet music to learn songs. Although I did figure out the Parabola riff without it.[/QUOTE]

I would kill for the oppotunity to be taught all over again, and be able to read music easily. My chance at having theory taught to me for free has gone (stupid bad high school decisions).

Self teaching is ok though I guess.

I was never really 'taught theory' /says a grade 8 pianist...well that i can readily apply to guitar. I take music As level at the moment, and i took GCSE music too. But the courses deal with classical music and jazz. Any mention of a powerchord is blasphemous as a chord is meant to have 3 different notes in it. Almost like evolution to a christian :lol: . I mainly picked up the theory i apply to guitar around the net, though i think if i sat and learned the notes on the neck/how to read off sheet music, i may be able to apply some knowledge to my guitar. I have guitar lessons atm, but i don't really learn too much...

.../point of rant was to encourage you to learn theory how you want. And explain that being able to harmonize a melody using the rules of western tonal harmony isn't gonna impact your gutiar playing too much. Obviously it helps because it explains what is going on, but i play guitar using shapes and it works for me :thumb:

My old school is noted for being one of the top music colleges in teh country though. Local bands use it for recording and everything, and people who took the courses are so much better off for it.

However, seeing as I cant go down that road now, using internet articles helps. Its annoying that most of them have drastically different approaches, sometimes conflicting explanatins to certain things (modes being the worst).

Depending on what I'm playing I need sheet music. Simpler things don't call for it, but some things do. For instance, the quieter part in Ticks And Leeches, and the very loud part after. Soooooooo many ghost notes.

I never use tabs. Drum tabs are evil.

Meh fcuk modes. I just rock out with the Pent/harmonic minor shalpes. Using the modes is just a way of overcomplicating guitar imo. I could use them if i sat down and learned the names of the neck. But they are pretty much a waste of time i think. They are just an outdated form of scale really. The melodic/harmonic minors are more modern and more easily used. But you don't really have to worry about the extra notes and can just stick witht he pent.

/is glad this is not the guitar forum, my arse would be burnnnned by now

[QUOTE=clearvision]

/is glad this is not the guitar forum, my arse would be burnnnned by now[/QUOTE]

This is why i ask guitar questions anywher ebut guitar forum. i wasn tactual musicians to answer me, not Vai/Satch/Satriani/etc loving elitists.

The backing tracks are going to be awesome, it's cool that you're doing that. Can't wait to play along with The Patient, Stinkfist, and The Grudge.

Clearvision, you'll never catch me :p.

[QUOTE=clearvision]Meh fcuk modes. I just rock out with the Pent/harmonic minor shalpes. Using the modes is just a way of overcomplicating guitar imo. I could use them if i sat down and learned the names of the neck. But they are pretty much a waste of time i think. They are just an outdated form of scale really. The melodic/harmonic minors are more modern and more easily used. But you don't really have to worry about the extra notes and can just stick witht he pent.

/is glad this is not the guitar forum, my arse would be burnnnned by now[/QUOTE]

It's true that modes do overcomplicate it, but in jazz they are used 90% of the time. I've been playing classical piano since I was five, and I got into jazz last year and it was weird because I never had to improvise before that. Luckily we're talking about Tool.

That maybe true Kage, but only cause you spam this place up and i don't :p

/biterness

Where were you earlier :upset: i wanted the still mp3's, nm i found em now. Can you answer my post in the with teeth thread thnx :)

Modes are only used in jazz to give things that clashing sound associated with some modes, but jazz is waaay to technical. My theory is stick to the pentatonic, and if it needs a harmonic/melodic minor or blues not here or there throw it in. I haven't actually learned how to play the major scale on guitar :lol: I just use my Minor shapes...

Yesterday, I finally took the plunge and purchased Opiate. Man, so far, it's almost as amazing as their other material that I've heard. (Ænima and Lateralus) Hush has a few sweet riffs, Part of Me has a nice drumline. I'm only half way through listening to it, so I'll have more comments in 15 minutes.

I haven't posted in here for a while. How goes it, fools?