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Simon__Thats_All 09-26-2005 05:40 PM

/is still looking for Morningrise.

Kaiwaz 09-26-2005 05:43 PM

[QUOTE=naboo]Morningrise might just be my favorite album of all-time and easily my favorite Opeth album.[/QUOTE]



I just mentioned one song for Kage as I do not have the time to rant on about them all :lol:

But yes, Morningrise to [I]me[/I] is Opeth at their Prime. Although it's very rare for a band to come up with new songs and sound the same since debut (Iron Maiden), I like the path Opeth took. It just makes the value of Orchid/Morningrise skyrocket. :D

Kaiwaz 09-26-2005 05:44 PM

[QUOTE=Simon__Thats_All]/is still looking for Morningrise.[/QUOTE]



It's worth a buy. Have you heard any of it yet?

bucket 09-26-2005 05:51 PM

Morningrise is my favorite album. It's not that great if you just take a song out and listen to it individually, but as an entire collection of five songs in a row, it's absolutely amazing.

One night I listened to Morningrise in [I]complete[/I] darkness. Listening to music at night wasn't unusual, but this time it was different. I had my headphones on and the volume was at a nice hearty level. I couldn't do anything except listen to the music and hear my thoughts. It was awesome.

I don't know how to describe that experience, but it was the most dandy listen I've ever had. The funny thing is, I've only listened to MR maybe 3 times since then... a few months ago.

Special Brew 09-26-2005 05:53 PM

The only album I don't physically own is Still Life, and it's my favorite. :(

Simon__Thats_All 09-26-2005 06:00 PM

[QUOTE=Flynn]It's worth a buy. Have you heard any of it yet?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, someone uploaded Black Rose Immortal for me, and I think To Bid You Farewell is from it as well, or I could be wrong. As far as I know, that's it though. I think I have everything else... I have Orchid, Still Life, Deliverance, Da[B][I][/I][/B]mnation, My Arms Your Hearse, Ghost Reveries, Black Water Park... Yeah.

Kaiwaz 09-26-2005 06:00 PM

[QUOTE=bucket]Morningrise is my favorite album. It's not that great if you just take a song out and listen to it individually, but as an entire collection of five songs in a row, it's absolutely amazing.

One night I listened to Morningrise in [I]complete[/I] darkness. Listening to music at night wasn't unusual, but this time it was different. I had my headphones on and the volume was at a nice hearty level. I couldn't do anything except listen to the music and hear my thoughts. It was awesome.

I don't know how to describe that experience, but it was the most dandy listen I've ever had. The funny thing is, I've only listened to MR maybe 3 times since then... a few months ago.[/QUOTE]




wow, seriously, I do not lie when I say ''I know that feeling''. It really is a great concept album. I listen to the entire album every time. Withe the exeption of Black Rose Immortal ( I have my reasons ) :D

Shattered_Future 09-26-2005 06:00 PM

I listened to Morningrise once when I was taking a ride on vacation...

A few problems I have with it: The vocals are a lot worse than on later albums, and the songs don't really seem like songs...just one new riff after another. There's no real structure to their songs.

That being said, some brilliant riffs in that album there are though (I sound like Yoda... :confused: ).

And I just realized...Opeth AND Nevermore are coming to me November 3rd ON THE SAME BILL.

I started working on my parents to take me and a few friends (they're doing the same thing with their parents) to get us there...so far, it's going suprisingly well. They're actually listening. :p

Hells Bells 09-26-2005 06:02 PM

I don't know what everyone has against Orchid...except Flynn :p

On Orchid, it sounds like Opeth was experimenting with different styles...they hadn't really defined their own style yet. Other than that, it's still a great album...

Then again, I can't really say anything about Opeth's albums so far, I love 'em all :p

Special Brew 09-26-2005 06:06 PM

I love all of Opeth albums. They all have a unique personality to them.

Slapping Penguin 09-26-2005 06:09 PM

Orchid was the first Opeth album I got. Fantastic, I love how all the songs flow between each other. Example Sillhouette onto Forest of October.

The Twilight Is My Robe onto Requiem onto The Apostle In Truimph. Amazing.

Yeah Damien I really like Still Life too. Nothing bests Godhead and Moor. Serenity is so good too. :D

Special Brew 09-26-2005 06:10 PM

Orchid was my first purchased album as well.

Shattered_Future 09-26-2005 06:10 PM

Orchid has a few of my favorite Opeth songs...Forest Of October is sheer brilliance.

Kaiwaz 09-26-2005 06:21 PM

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]Orchid has a few of my favorite Opeth songs...Forest Of October is sheer brilliance.[/QUOTE]


I love that song

VeedBok 09-26-2005 06:36 PM

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]Orchid has a few of my favorite Opeth songs[/QUOTE]

Orchid is definately one of my favorite Opeth albums, In the Mist She was Standing is my favorite song.

Hells Bells 09-26-2005 06:56 PM

Forest of October and In the Mist She Was Standing are awesome, but my favourite off that album is definitely Silhouette...it's so dark, and it's completely on the piano.

Deth 09-26-2005 07:03 PM

In Mist She Was Standing just barely misses out on the top five favorite 'Peth songs for me.

Special Brew 09-26-2005 07:10 PM

I like "Twilight In My Robe" more.

Kaiwaz 09-26-2005 07:29 PM

[QUOTE=Damien Rhodes]I like "Twilight In My Robe" more.[/QUOTE]



I like the entire album. :thumb:

Killtacular 09-26-2005 07:36 PM

I just got Orchid last night. I still haven't listened to yet, but my favourite's Silhouette. Heh heh. Out of the two or three full length songs I've heard I'd say In the Mist She was Standing.

ElectricalStorm 09-26-2005 07:45 PM

I love Kage for directly throwing down the gauntlet in this thread. Although I don't regard orchid and morningrise as harshly as he does I'm definitely on his side of the spectrum.

In regards to Ghost Reveries hate:

Ghost Reveries is a refined, polished, and cohesive album that is a culmination of opeth's musical progression. Sure some aspects of opeth have been shed along the way, most apparent being the acoustic sections of the first albums that I feel is what endears so many mxers to the early albums. But that's what happens with progressive music--it evolves. Ghost Reveries is an album that is still ultimately grounded in opeth's sound, its stylistically and quintessentially opeth, yet it takes the band to another level by implying that there is further progression and experimentation to come(Beneath the Mire is probably the best evidence of this). The combination of these facets not only make gr a great album but also a landmark one in their discography.

Opeth's last two efforts primarily serve to flesh out the heavy and soft styles that were realized on Blackwater Park--a detour that focused on refining an already existing sound. Ghost Reveries polishes that sound even further while taking a big step forward musically ushering a potentially new era of opeth music and that is what differentiates it from D&D. To get straight to the point, disliking the direction that opeth's music is heading towards is something I can understand, but by no means is Ghost Reveries a *BAD* album.

and of course the disclaimer stating the obvious; This is my intrepretation of opeth's work and it is also therefore my opinion.

Darkness 09-26-2005 07:52 PM

No, Ghost Reveries is not a bad album. Its just not up to par with the others, the songs go nowhere IMO, and the instrumentation is.. a bit boreing... except the keyboards.

ElectricalStorm 09-26-2005 07:52 PM

I guess I should probably state my bias & backround. My first opeth album was Blackwater Park and I got that in 2002. I would say that and ghost reveries are currently my favorite. As of right now, I do own and have listened to all of opeth's albums.

Killtacular 09-26-2005 09:07 PM

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]No, Ghost Reveries is not a bad album. Its just not up to par with the others, the songs go nowhere IMO, and the instrumentation is.. a bit boring... except the keyboards.[/QUOTE]

This one is correct.

Iron Man 09-26-2005 09:10 PM

For me, Ghost Reveries is somewhere in the middle. Not the best, but not bad. Of course, for me, nothing beats Still Life, I doubt anything ever will.

PIGS(1 different one) 09-26-2005 09:12 PM

What does everyone think of Mike's vocals on the Ayreon album Human equation?

I think it is amazing hearing all those artists singing together, I especially like Devin Townsend's vocals, James Labrie is amazing too.

Killtacular 09-26-2005 09:12 PM

I've not heard any of The Human Equation, but I really want to.

Iron Man 09-26-2005 09:15 PM

[QUOTE=PIGS(1 different one)]What does everyone think of Mike's vocals on the Ayreon album Human equation?

I think it is amazing hearing all those artists singing together, I especially like Devin Townsend's vocals, James Labrie is amazing too.[/QUOTE]

I think they're the best on there, and not just because I'm an Opeth fanboy. They add a dark tone the album needs. However, him and Townsend are the only two vocalists on there that really do anything for me. Now, I like Dream Theater, but I've always found LaBrie to be a bit...soft? whiney? can't really think of the right term, but they never really clicked. And that hurt the album some for me, seeing as he's the main vocalist on there.

PIGS(1 different one) 09-26-2005 09:21 PM

For some reason I enjoyed Labrie a lot more on that album than any Dream Theater album. I guess it's the balancing of good vocalists on there. ;)

Iron Man 09-26-2005 09:26 PM

[QUOTE=PIGS(1 different one)]For some reason I enjoyed Labrie a lot more on that album than any Dream Theater album. I guess it's the balancing of good vocalists on there. ;)[/QUOTE]

Meh, I never really liked him in Dream Theater, either. But the rest of the band is good enough to keep my attention, even if I don't really like the vocals.

relliK 09-26-2005 10:34 PM

[QUOTE=Kage]I think MAYH is the first truly good album they made. Orchid is horridly cheesy and sounds plain bad, Morningrise is mediocre to say the most. I mean, there are some good moments, even good songs, but Opeth didn't start making true quality music until midway in their career. Still Life and Blackwater Park were their first true masterpeices, and Ghost Reveries is the third.

I don't understand not liking an album because it's not heavy or technical enough. That's stupid to me.[/QUOTE]


Oh C'mon.Orchid and Morningrise are masterpieces.If anything, I see MAYH as a step backwards from them.The great thing about both of them is the fact that there are guitar harmonies most of the time, you can choose to listen to only the left channel, the right channel, or both.Each of those show a different identity.Giving both those albums more than one face.

Orchid is possibly one of the best debut cds by any band, ever.

Morningrise is just godly.It has the best acoustic material of Opeth's career.Where is there a better soft song than "To Bid You Farewell"?

relliK 09-26-2005 10:51 PM

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]Awesome, awesome opener to an awesome, awesome album. :thumb:



Same, I hope this is just a bit of a phase they go through, and return to metal madness on the next cd. :D Its still ok, but man Deliverance & ****[I]a[/I]tion were just so awesome that this was... not awesome.[/QUOTE]

I personally thought Ghost Reveries was the natural progression from both those albums, only it had alot more focus and precision.It has alot of the staccato riffs and amazing drumming from Deliverance, as well as the clean vocals, keyboards, and simplified solid melodies from ****ation.

I thought D+D was the weakest point in Opeth's career.****ation came out ok, but Deliverance lacked.IMO Ghost Reveries is much better than both of them.

Personally, Ghost Reveries is one of the heaviest Opeth albums, but at the same time, the softest besides ****ation.One can't deny that the heavy parts on it are possibly the heaviest moments in the bands career.Not to mention the lyrics which have never been so dark and sinister.I get chills while reading the lyrics to The Baying of the Hounds.

Might I add that The Baying of the Hounds continues to own my face.Quite possibly my favorite song at the moment.

Det_Nosnip 09-26-2005 11:18 PM

[QUOTE=PIGS(1 different one)]What does everyone think of Mike's vocals on the Ayreon album Human equation?

I think it is amazing hearing all those artists singing together, I especially like Devin Townsend's vocals, James Labrie is amazing too.[/QUOTE]

Marcela Bovio, Heather Findlay, and Devon Graves really blew me away on that album. The Human Equation was also what got me into Opeth, as hearing Mikael sing cleanly made me give them another chance and helped me get over the "ooooh growling cookie monster hahaha" phase.

*glances at avatar* Yeah, I've come a long way. :lol:

ambush 09-27-2005 12:15 AM

<3 Ayreon - Day Two (Isolation) The female vocalist in that song is just awesome.

After listening to this CD a million times, I've decided that Ghost of Perdition is definitely one of the most well written songs I've heard in a long time.

StormRider VS IronMan 09-27-2005 04:59 AM

[QUOTE=relliK]I personally thought Ghost Reveries was the natural progression from both those albums, only it had alot more focus and precision.It has alot of the staccato riffs and amazing drumming from Deliverance, as well as the clean vocals, keyboards, and simplified solid melodies from ****ation.

I thought D+D was the weakest point in Opeth's career.****ation came out ok, but Deliverance lacked.IMO Ghost Reveries is much better than both of them.

Personally, Ghost Reveries is one of the heaviest Opeth albums, but at the same time, the softest besides ****ation.One can't deny that the heavy parts on it are possibly the heaviest moments in the bands career.Not to mention the lyrics which have never been so dark and sinister.I get chills while reading the lyrics to The Baying of the Hounds.

Might I add that The Baying of the Hounds continues to own my face.Quite possibly my favorite song at the moment.[/QUOTE]

I think that GR is their best album. The lyrics are so dark and beautifull!!
But if iI had to vote for their heviest album then MAYH wins the race
(When and Demon of the Fall come automatically to mind :evil: )

Deth 09-27-2005 05:48 AM

[QUOTE=PIGS(1 different one)]What does everyone think of Mike's vocals on the Ayreon album Human equation?

I think it is amazing hearing all those artists singing together, I especially like Devin Townsend's vocals, James Labrie is amazing too.[/QUOTE]
What exactly is Ayreon? I almost picked up an album over the weekend dispite not knowing anything about them.

I went with Dredg's new album and DT's Scenes From A Memory though.

The Flabbit Rides High 09-27-2005 05:52 AM

[QUOTE=StormRider VS IronMan]I think that GR is their best album. The lyrics are so dark and beautifull!!
But if iI had to vote for their heviest album then MAYH wins the race
(When and Demon of the Fall come automatically to mind :evil: )[/QUOTE]

Not to mention the outro of Karma. :p

MAYH, is truly amazing. my fav.

Deth 09-27-2005 06:03 AM

MAYH took a while to really grow on me. Now I really love it, but it was the Opeth album that took the longest for me to truly enjoy.

i am the robots 09-27-2005 07:00 AM

[QUOTE=Creeping_Deth]MAYH took a while to really grow on me. Now I really love it, but it was the Opeth album that took the longest for me to truly enjoy.[/QUOTE]

I enjoyed it the very first time I heard it, but then again, it is heavier than their other stuff (as stated above) and I was graced with listening to the likes of Cryptopsy, Behemoth, Decapitated, Demigod, Lykathea Aflame, Necrophagist, Gorguts, and a bunch of other Brutal/Technical Death Metal bands before I got it 2 months ago :p.

Deth 09-27-2005 07:02 AM

It's not that it was heavier, it just didn't click with me the same way the other albums did.


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