Ron ist correct

[quote]aren't you in like 8th grade[/quote] Yesssssssssssss. Why does it matter?

Oh wow, I can't even remember 8th grade.

Me neither.

New Pig Destroyer is ****ing amazing, props for that...they never let me down.

wotan more like gag reflex

I'll have none of this!

Oh deary me!

K, I've got a serious question..... (grind NOOB here)...


I got Smear Campaign and The Code Is Red..... (Napalm Death) and thought like hell it was just death metal...really obnoxious death metal. then I come in here and find out it's Grind. So, am I not correct in assuming that most grind is fairly interchangeable with some forms of death and/or black metal? I write predominantly melodic death/blackened death material, but I'm writing some songs right now that fit the whole "scream obnoxiously for 2 minutes then stop" generalization that is made of grind, but it seems fairly interchangeable with my other stuff (as in it fits if I throw one of them in every once in a while).

Am I making any sense? If so, please enlighten me. If not, enlighten me more.

Napalm Death is definitely Grind, but a ton of DM influence too.

By the way, awesome buys. The Code... is one of my favorite albums of all time.

meh, I see grind as a paralell to Death Metal, but not interchangeable. I know some diehard p***y Grind fans who won't touch death metal, and vise versa. Grind doesn't rely as much on the technical aspect as the speed and chaos aspect.

Grind can mix with Death Metal but it's more rooted in punk than anything, as far as I know. I'm really a noob too but I fake my way. And hottie, honestly, do you even understand the word parallel? You keep throwing it around.

So grind in all technicality is the death metal version of punk. Makes sense.

Pretty close.

Awesome. So I wasn't completely insane. That's good.

Also explains why I can get away with writing the occasional grind-ish song.

Then there is crust.

Crust <3

Huh?

Crust Punk is like the middle man between Hardcore and Grind, I think. Justin (RetiredAt21) would be the one to ask, he is into all this stuff.

Anyway Behemoth, if you're still kind of wondering where Punk fits in with Grind then get some older stuff like early Napalm Death and Repulsion. It's the best kind of Grind.

And also Terrorizer.

It's like the black metal of grind and hardcore.

What is? Crust?

Yeah

How so? I'm interested, I don't really listen to Crust. Unless Siege count.

It just sounds like if a straight forward BM band wanted to make a grind band. That's what i'm always reminded of, heh.

[QUOTE=Apocalyptic Raids;14715070]What is? Crust?[/QUOTE]

Crust is awesome. You have the bands that sound like traditional crust (bands like Caustic Christ and Electro Hippies) and then you have that really heavy crust (bands like His Hero Is Gone and Ekkaia). Usually, crust is just really political hardcore.

[QUOTE=Apocalyptic Raids;14715075]How so? I'm interested, I don't really listen to Crust. Unless Siege count.[/QUOTE]

Siege are more like PV than crust, I say. Or just hardcore.

[I]His Hero Is Gone [/I] are amazing! \m/

Crust is more abrasive than even grind imo.
[quote]And hottie, honestly, do you even understand the word parallel? You keep throwing it around.[/quote] I used it twice.

Crust can be more abrasive, but not usually. Not to me, anyways.

[QUOTE=Txus;14715752][I]His Hero Is Gone [/I] are amazing! \m/[/QUOTE]

Definitely. What's your favorite album? Mine is [I]15 Counts Of Arson[/I]. HEAVY AS F[I]U[/I]CK.

The Plot Sickens is the only album I have....and it's ****ing ace!

That's a good one, too. I highly recommend you get [I]15 Counts Of Arson[/I]. It's great.

Aight, I will definitely look for it :)

Ever heard of Damad? They are sort of His Hero Is Gone-ish.

No, I'm a Crust n00b :(

I'll add them to the list of bands I shoud check out which is getting pretty big.

I Feel So Loathsome Down Inside

Yeah, His hero is gone is a great example of crust.


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Every time you guys mention this so-called subgenre "crust", I lawl, thinking of apple pie.



BTW, [I]The Code is Red...Long Live the Code[/I] is one of the most beautiful pieces of work ever, fyi. Just thought I'd throw that in.

Indeed. Barney's vocals are inhuman.

Otherworldly.


And the music knocks teeth in.