[QUOTE=moaner]Its USB, it has more inputs[/QUOTE]

So it can play like, through monitors and speakers, whilst taking line in from a bass and a mixer?

o really big shi

Wow! Kkkkkkkocaine, could you give me any details/info on that joshbecker./music link?? I listened to 'aftershock' and that was very good quality sound. Especially the drums and the drummer was awesome!!! Any details on the mics used, drums, recording unit would be great. (If you any of that)

[QUOTE=cKy_heartagram]So it can play like, through monitors and speakers, whilst taking line in from a bass and a mixer?

o really big shi[/QUOTE]

it could record the line in from a mixer and a mic from the singer, and send it to both the PC and the drummers headphones, and the studio monitors.

[QUOTE=I'd Hit it]Wow! Kkkkkkkocaine, could you give me any details/info on that joshbecker./music link?? I listened to 'aftershock' and that was very good quality sound. Especially the drums and the drummer was awesome!!! Any details on the mics used, drums, recording unit would be great. (If you any of that)[/QUOTE]

The recording unit for the home demo was a Tascam 424 MKIII. [url]http://www.americanmusical.com/item--i-TAS-424MKIII--brand-265.html[/url]
Mics I have no idea about but you should be able to easily find out by emailing the owner of the site.

I actually much prefer the home demo to the rough studio mix, the keyboard comes out so much brighter and cutting in the home demo, however the vox could do with some lifting to bring it out in the mix.
As far as I know, the drums in the home demo were programmed and not actually played.

[QUOTE=moaner]it could record the line in from a mixer and a mic from the singer, and send it to both the PC and the drummers headphones, and the studio monitors.[/QUOTE]

Can it be used with the stock PC card in peace?

[QUOTE=cKy_heartagram]Can it be used with the stock PC card in peace?[/QUOTE]

yes, happily.

nah, I doubt I'd be impressed by programmed drums... see ^_^ : Music and Lyrics by Josh Becker
Studio Rough Mix MP3 (4:17)
Ron Platt: Vocals
Von Eric: Drums
Josh Becker: Guitars, Keyboards, Bass


Listen to that one, the drums are pure talent. I wouldn't think that is even do-able with a drum track machine.

But thanks for the response!!

Are those mics good?

And whats a good mixer?

[QUOTE=Trent Hatfield Manson]the other thing is for my other band we have drums
BUT
we don't have the money for the mics and ****[/QUOTE]

I'm not sure if this has already been addressed, but you can usually rent mics from large music stores.

Could any one suggest a good multitrack digital recorder that will give me good results. Also what condenser mic would be good for vocals? Thankyou

Also what are the advatages/disadvatages of a digital multitrack recording unit compared to pc set recording.

[QUOTE=blackbird2]Also what are the advatages/disadvatages of a digital multitrack recording unit compared to pc set recording.[/QUOTE]

Go to the "who wnats a chuckle" thread and see why small digital multitrackers are a BAD idea.

Either get a tape one or use the PC.

Im thinking about getting a recording with 20 or 40 gigs worth of storage. How would the overquality of sound and available options match up to a computer

hey...some fantastic lessons, loads of helpful info. i was just wondering thho...how much would a decent set of drum mikes cost? our drummer is really against buying them coz he thinks they cost loads...

thanks

well buying them separately you could get away with

shure sm57 = 120 euro (snare)
3 x those tom dynamic clipons = 160 euro
decent bass mic eg beta 52 = 150 euro
two decent overheads = 300 euro

so 730 euros for a good set of mics when buying it seperately. (I only know euros from personal expirience, not what I see on sites)

When you buy them together you often don't get the overheads and on the sites they cost quite a bit. Example:

[url]http://www.shure.com/microphones/models/dmk57-52.asp[/url]

just three dynamics, (two for toms, one for snare) and 1 bass mic. no overheads. and that only is more than $800 on the site.


[url]http://www.shure.com/microphones/models/pgdmk6.asp[/url]

nearly $1000

- 2 tom mics
- 1 snare mic
- 1 bass mic
- 2 overheads

but maybe its worth it coz you get a carrying case, clamps and all the cables.

you can get a set of drum mics for about £150 if you try, with overheads. maybe even less, i'vce seen a set of drum dynamics for £50.

you certaintly don't have to pay shure prices if you're on a budget.

no you have a point there

just out of curiosity, whatever happened to theabstract?

thanks...were did you see the £150 mics??

[QUOTE=thelemon32]just out of curiosity, whatever happened to theabstract?[/QUOTE]

He's currently working with darkwhite (who left the forum) to set up a big musician community website with some help from me.
He's on msn a bit but I don't know why he doens't post anymore.

[url]www.baldbeat.co.uk[/url]

[url]www.dawsons.co.uk[/url]

just shop around though.

[QUOTE=KKKKKocaine]He's currently working with darkwhite (who left the forum) to set up a big musician community website with some help from me.
He's on msn a bit but I don't know why he doens't post anymore.[/QUOTE]

bridgethegap.tk?

i remember that. it was such a blatant mf rip... :lol: iwth a couple of lessons on it.

hey, I plan on making a little studio in my garage, and I can't really move my computer in it, so I need a recorder. I'm short in cash, so people talked to me about the fostex mr8. some say this is really good, some say this is crap... I can't spend a lot of money now, so I need a good recorder and a condenser mic to start, after I'll buy more mics. so should I go with the fostex?

and other thing, can someone explain me what is a mixer??? Is it essential?

thank you.

a mixer in its most basic form has 2 or more inputs (usually much more), where different signals can be mixed and panned into a stereo output. I don't think a mixer exists that does only that, but that is what a mixer is in its most basic form. if you get a recorder, you won't need a mixer to start with, but you will want one very soon. the experts can go into details here.

My first thoughts are for a Tascam 414 MK2 and a behringer tube mic pre-amp with large dia condenser, but i/the k will answer in more depth tommorow.

[QUOTE=KKKKKocaine]He's currently working with darkwhite (who left the forum) to set up a big musician community website with some help from me.
He's on msn a bit but I don't know why he doens't post anymore.[/QUOTE]

let me know when the website gets all setup

[QUOTE=moaner]My first thoughts are for a Tascam 414 MK2 and a behringer tube mic pre-amp with large dia condenser, but i/the k will answer in more depth tommorow.[/QUOTE]

thank you, but the tascam is a tape recorder, can I put the recording in the computer after?

[QUOTE=groomits]thank you, but the tascam is a tape recorder, can I put the recording in the computer after?[/QUOTE]

yeah, you can mix it down to stereo once you've finished trackin and mixing it. you can then master it on your computer.

[QUOTE=moaner]bridgethegap.tk?

i remember that. it was such a blatant mf rip... :lol: iwth a couple of lessons on it.[/QUOTE]

The difference being that MX sucks. And is about as much help to bands as a used condom being thrown around a high school bus.
Bridge The Gap is being designed as something MX will never be.
MusicianForums is designed to help musicians, and it's essentially the by-product of MXtabs* which isn't really around for helping bands.

*A massive breach of copyright. I have contacted Jeremy about this but I was ignored and my thread was closed under the basis of "There are loads of tabsites around, it's legal" by him and another mod who parrotted this reason.
Unfortunately, it's not,

[url]http://news.com.com/2100-1023-212236.html?legacy=cnet[/url]

Fact of the matter = tabs are illegal unless you have permission, I don't neccessarily agree with this, but it's the truth and the law, disagreeing with a law doesn't exempt you from it. Jeremy has ignored my warnings about tabaleture being illegal so if mxtabs is shut down then that's his fault.

EDIT: Before anyone reads all of that and says "Ah but the clause says non-commercial use it cool, AHA!"
Jeremy makes alot of money from MX.

The threadstarter was saying that I could record with my computer. I said that I could not move my comp into my recording room, but maybe I'll be able. The thing is that there's a lot of humidity in the room in summer, will it affect my comp? Maybe you're not specialists about computer though...

ok I must be boring... but I changed my plans. I don't need of a recorder anymore. I'll record with my comp.

here's some questions :

1. What do I need to record with my comp? (mixer, mics, software, sound card and?)
2. What free software can I use?
3. Where I plug the mixer?

I'm a total noob in that recording thing, I try to learn the more I can...

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hey abstract,
:confused: is there anywhere to get monitors, mixers, and other equip. for cheap?????if so how much on average?

[url]http://s45.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1QWRQOL9NI68T0AJQ5O56FUPXH[/url]

Anyone who knows anything about recording, listen to that tell me which of all of the sounds sounds best and then how to eq it so it sounds better.

I just miced my smaller amp (the other is too powerful to mic properly, I shake the house off it's foundation) and I need to know which sounds the best out of all those. This may or may not be the right thread for this.

The mic was about 2 inches from the not-center-part of the speaker.

I'm using a dynamic mic because my friend has my condenser at the moment.

hey, the abstract. Thanks for this post...I can't believe I'm finally finding something so informative.....plus when you said you love the chili peppers I just about **** myself. Have you tried or heard anything about the Audigy 4? I'm looking into buying a good soundcard here soon and am debating on which one....should I just go with the Audigy 2 platinum pro?

Hey dude! thanks for the lessons!

if i bought an SM57 now, would i want to replace it with a BETA 57 later? and whats the main differences between the two? thanks

[QUOTE]if i bought an SM57 now, would i want to replace it with a BETA 57 later[/QUOTE]

Probably not, unless you have way too much money to burn

no sm57 is fine. I have one, it's reat. you don't need to replace it, you'll hardly be ble to hear the difference anyway. There's way better things to burn out your dosh on.

Kickass lessons!

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