I need to elaborate a little ono what I said last night.

There's nothing wrong with discussing the origins of the genre, or bands, but what frustrates me is that this is [i]all that gets discussed[/i]. Whenever something truely interesting comes up, it goes on for a few posts, but those not involved with the discussion would rather than use their heads and have a meaningful discussion beyond adding more and more bands to the wish list return to the mindless babble. The same old stuff.

That's on my list of things to get. I love the s/t Master album.

Here's a discussion starter.


What do you guys think is the biggest difference between pre-benton and benton era Vital Remains? Obviously a different lineup including Benton, but lyrically and vocally they are almost identical. So what makes the difference for you guys?

What the **** do you consider interesting?

@Stevie

[QUOTE=Stevie;14897838]I need to elaborate a little ono what I said last night.

There's nothing wrong with discussing the origins of the genre, or bands, but what frustrates me is that this is [i]all that gets discussed[/i]. Whenever something truely interesting comes up, it goes on for a few posts, but those not involved with the discussion would rather than use their heads and have a meaningful discussion beyond adding more and more bands to the wish list return to the mindless babble. The same old stuff.[/QUOTE]

Repetition of this kind is definitely something to expect dude. Most of us have been posting in this thread for years so we have the feeling that literally everything has been discussed, plus a lot of us have kind of grown out of death metal and they're only willing to discuss certain bands which mean a lot to them than exploring new ones (something we've been doing for years anyway).

eg the discussion of the meaning behind the bands music. meaning behind the genre. why we listen to DM. etc etc my dinner's just arrived!

Meaning is subjective and bs, and I listen to dm because I like it.

Now who wants to talk about Sinister?

[QUOTE=Stoic;14897861]Repetition of this kind is definitely something to expect dude. Most of us have been posting in this thread for years so we have the feeling that literally everything has been discussed, plus a lot of us have kind of grown out of death metal and they're only willing to discuss certain bands which mean a lot to them than exploring new ones (something we've been doing for years anyway).[/QUOTE]

i listen to the kind of DM-bands i like. tbh. i know more or less about the history, but i'm not interested into old-school-death only cause i could be more "true". i don't give a sh1t about this.
i like DM, i dislike some bands, others not... only cause i have only one possessed song on my harddisk, doesn't mean i don't have a clue what DM really is...

[quote=pate;14897916]Meaning is subjective and bs, and I listen to dm because I like it[/quote]

This.


And nobody answered my question.

[QUOTE=Behemoth_Rules_All;14897849]Here's a discussion starter.


What do you guys think is the biggest difference between pre-benton and benton era Vital Remains? Obviously a different lineup including Benton, but lyrically and vocally they are almost identical. So what makes the difference for you guys?[/QUOTE]

The pre-Benton stuff doesn't all sound the same. The only Benton era stuff I can remember off the top of my head are the two uber-melodic parts of "Dechristianize". Other than that, it all sounds the same imo.

I think "Icons of Evil" cures that a little bit, but I see where you're coming from a bit.

[QUOTE=pate;14897916]Meaning is subjective and bs, and I listen to dm because I like it.

Now who wants to talk about Sinister?[/QUOTE]

hahahaha what a stupid post

you haven't the mental capacity.

The only Vital Remains parts I ever remember are ones I remember because they repeat like 30 times over in the same song.

I could never get into Vital Remains honestly. I'll just stick with Deicide.

I was pissed when I heard Ralph left.

[quote=Cocaine;14897982]The only Vital Remains parts I ever remember are ones I remember because they repeat like 30 times over in the same song.[/quote]

As I've stated before, if you actually look at the lyrics and song structure, they don't repeat sections any more than any other band. The parts themselves are just so long that it gets boring when they are repeated.

But that wasn't my question.



I actually only got into Deicide a few months ago after being a VR fan for a long time. I only have Scars of the Crucifix and The Stench of Redemtion.

[QUOTE=Stevie]hahahaha what a stupid post

you haven't the mental capacity.[/quote]

roffle

[QUOTE=FatalEnergy]
I was pissed when I heard Ralph left.[/quote]

Yeah, me too.

i still couldn't get into Deicide... they are to "evil" for me :p

lol^^

[QUOTE=Behemoth_Rules_All;14897989] I only have Scars of the Crucifix and The Stench of Redemtion.[/QUOTE]

S/T NOW

[QUOTE=Wotan;14898020]S/T NOW[/QUOTE]

This, and Legion as well.

[quote=Wotan;14898020]S/T NOW[/quote]

yes, master.


That good, eh?

I've heard a lot about Legion. I've been thinking about getting it.

ok then

most here seem content with the mindless chatter so i can see that as an intelligent person i will find little use in continuing to revel in this directionless crap.

cya

s/t = one of the most essential DM albums ever

[QUOTE=Behemoth_Rules_All;14898027]yes, master.


That good, eh?

I've heard a lot about Legion. I've been thinking about getting it.[/QUOTE]

I still stand by Legion as the superior album.

And as much as I love the s/t, those solos are laughably bad.

[QUOTE=Stevie;14898030]ok then

most here seem content with the mindless chatter so i can see that as an intelligent person i will find little use in continuing to revel in this directionless crap.

cya[/QUOTE]

Come on :(

I'll have to stand by Legion as well. Although the s/t is quite good.

I shall venture over to amazon and have a listen....


EDIT: I have fallen in love with Legion. S/T I'm a little iffy on.....

///continues listening...

Vital Remains sucks.

And I'm the troll that posts nothing useful?





I shall purchase Legion.. I'm going to hold off on s/t though....

[QUOTE=RetiredAt21;14896866]Band sucks. "Slow Hands" is a sh[I]i[/I]tty song.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RetiredAt21;14896406]I don't like King Crimson.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RetiredAt21;14893701]Dead To Fall suck.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RetiredAt21;14898143]Vital Remains sucks.[/QUOTE]

Calm down dude :p

[size=7]VITAL REMAINS IS OKAY, IMO. SHUT UP ABOUT TROLLS. END.[/size]