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TheClap 09-27-2006 07:21 PM

[QUOTE=sr800bkBassist;13340631]Sonic Youth[/QUOTE]

That sucks.

Spaceman Spiff 09-27-2006 07:39 PM

Lawl. Drinking a bit of vodka. Nothing wrong with a couple of drinks on a school night. :D

Seriously, it's only about 3 drinks, which for me is about as alcoholic as a glass of water.

The Brad 09-27-2006 07:42 PM

Spiff, I could use your expertise.

Would you be willing to give me your opinion on a thesis?

Akira 09-27-2006 07:43 PM

So guys, what's up?

Spaceman Spiff 09-27-2006 07:45 PM

[QUOTE=The Brad;13341051]Spiff, I could use your expertise.

Would you be willing to give me your opinion on a thesis?[/QUOTE]

Whoa... someone actually coming to me for help with something? That's wild.

I'll do my best to help, Brad.

HELLonWHEELS 09-27-2006 07:47 PM

And nobody cares about my opinion :upset:

Ting 09-27-2006 07:48 PM

Hey everyone!

Akira 09-27-2006 07:49 PM

[QUOTE=Ting;13341108]Hey everyone![/QUOTE]

Hi.


I am pretty exciting because my school marching band might get to play halftime at an NFL game.

Ting 09-27-2006 07:50 PM

Guess whos gonna teach bass lessons
<_<
>_>

Moon Flavor 09-27-2006 07:51 PM

[QUOTE=Ting;13341122]Guess whos gonna teach bass lessons
<_<
>_>[/QUOTE]

Tom Brokaw!


Oh wait...

The Brad 09-27-2006 07:51 PM

Well you and your brother are apparently well endowed with writing skills, so here goes.

My concerns:
I cannot seem to get any cohesion or directness. Just really doesn't feel like a thesis statement to me, so any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thesis:

Erdrich’s primary portrayal of Lyman Lamartine, the younger of the two brothers in The Red Convertible, suggests that he is happy-go-lucky and an all-around nice guy who just so happens to be unsuccessfully coping with the changes that the Vietnam War instilled in his older brother Henry. Upon further reading it becomes clear that Erdrich is writing about something much larger than Lyman’s attempts to alleviate his ailing brother of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder and nurture him back into the grave rhythm of reservation life. But rather than themes of fleeting fraternity and the intrinsic difficulties of maturity, Erdrich pursues the larger theme of the Native American experience in response to marginalization and assimilation. With this new perspective it becomes apparent that Lyman is not only flirting with Americana, but that he is fully engulfed and assimilated into white culture. Through his willful acceptance of white culture, he becomes detached from his seemingly native culture and forfeits his inherently stereotypical Indian masculinity.

HELLonWHEELS 09-27-2006 07:51 PM

[QUOTE=Ting;13341108]Hey everyone![/QUOTE]

Sup Ting

Spaceman Spiff 09-27-2006 08:02 PM

[QUOTE=The Brad;13341135]Well you and your brother are apparently well endowed with writing skills, so here goes.

My concerns:
I cannot seem to get any cohesion or directness. Just really doesn't feel like a thesis statement to me, so any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thesis:

ladadadada[/QUOTE]
Well, I haven't read this book, so I don't entirely know. But you seem to be saying a lot, break it down as far as you can until it's as basic as it can be: What are you trying to prove?

That's what a thesis is. Don't write me a paragraph, just tell me what you want to prove.

Ting 09-27-2006 08:03 PM

[QUOTE=HELLonWHEELS;13341136]Sup Ting[/QUOTE]

Not much, going crazy on step mania, u?

The Brad 09-27-2006 08:05 PM

Well prior to that my thesis was
Erdrich's portayal of Lyman suggests that he is not only flirting with Americana, but that is fully engulfed and assimilated into white culture. Erdrich also leaves room for one to believe that Lyman may in fact be part caucasian.

Basically, that still lacks direction and balls as far as "this is my thesis, this is what I am going to prove"
I am failing to make an argument.

HELLonWHEELS 09-27-2006 08:18 PM

[QUOTE=Ting;13341225]Not much, going crazy on step mania, u?[/QUOTE]

Well i was try to get a decent double thumb down and now the top of my thumb has no epidermis its just red and well i guess i can't practice that today.


If i want to mute the strings what shold i use. I tried using a sweatband but i keeps falling a bit too far

Spaceman Spiff 09-27-2006 08:20 PM

Okay, so basically, this guy is an Indian (right?), but due to his surroundings he has been assimilated and lost his roots. So prove that this Indian has been assimilated into white culture.

The Brad 09-27-2006 08:21 PM

Yeah yeah, I know where I am going with my paper.
But the thesis meanders and lacks direction is what I was saying.

Maybe the class will have something to say about it.

Worrpigs 09-27-2006 08:22 PM

sup dudes.

TheClap 09-27-2006 08:22 PM

[QUOTE=The Brad;13341240]Well prior to that my thesis was
Erdrich's portayal of Lyman suggests that he is not only flirting with Americana, but that is fully engulfed and assimilated into white culture. Erdrich also leaves room for one to believe that Lyman may in fact be part caucasian.

Basically, that still lacks direction and balls as far as "this is my thesis, this is what I am going to prove"
I am failing to make an argument.[/QUOTE]

Don't try to make it as simple as it can be, type a complex-split thesis, this provides partition and analysis.

such as- "Politically, the war established the supremacy of the Republican party in national politics for much of the next fifty years. Socially, the war saw significant gains in African American rights. And constitutionally, the war established the supremacy of the federal government over the state. Thus, the Civil War did in fact represent a political, social, and constitutional revolution in America."

My thesis for an apush paper. It provides three different points in a more complex setting.

Try to type a gray area thesis, let it flow and don't think so hard on it.

Ting 09-27-2006 08:23 PM

[QUOTE=Worrpigs;13341383]sup dudes.[/QUOTE]

Not much, you man?

Spaceman Spiff 09-27-2006 08:25 PM

[QUOTE=ferdinand5]Try to type a gray area thesis, let it flow and don't freak out.[/QUOTE]

But sitting on the fence is crap. If you don't know what you're trying to prove, how can you write a paper about it?

He seems to know what he wants to prove, he just can't properly word his thesis... or so it seems...

The Brad 09-27-2006 08:28 PM

[QUOTE=Spaceman Spiff;13341415]He seems to know what he wants to prove, he just can't properly word his thesis... or so it seems...[/QUOTE]

Bingo.

TheClap 09-27-2006 08:35 PM

[QUOTE=Spaceman Spiff;13341415]But sitting on the fence is crap. If you don't know what you're trying to prove, how can you write a paper about it?

He seems to know what he wants to prove, he just can't properly word his thesis... or so it seems...[/QUOTE]

It is important not to try to write a thesis that is all "black" or all "white." The most effective essays attempt to navigate the "gray area" in a more sophisticated fashion. You stand is he got ingulfed in white culture, rather than keeping his indian roots right?

Worrpigs 09-27-2006 08:36 PM

[QUOTE=Ting;13341390]Not much, you man?[/QUOTE]

same, just chillen. i feel good today, i dont know why.

HELLonWHEELS 09-27-2006 08:36 PM

I think my sister just invented the best muting system by accedent.

Spaceman Spiff 09-27-2006 08:37 PM

[QUOTE=The Brad;13341430]Bingo.[/QUOTE]

What I think you should do is what I said before, break it down as far as you can, try and say what you want in one sentence, then expand from there.

TheClap 09-27-2006 08:38 PM

[QUOTE=Spaceman Spiff;13341483]What I think you should do is what I said before, break it down as far as you can, try and say what you want in one sentence, then expand from there.[/QUOTE]

As in break it down to atleast 3 topics, and describe them. Thus, Complex-split thesis.

Spaceman Spiff 09-27-2006 08:39 PM

[QUOTE=ferdinand5;13341468]It is important not to try to write a thesis that is all "black" or all "white." The most effective essays attempt to navigate the "gray area" in a more sophisticated fashion. You stand is he got ingulfed in white culture, rather than keeping his indian roots right?[/QUOTE]

I disagree. If you're trying to prove something, you do your best to prove it. What makes it most effective is if you can bring up counter-arguments and then refute them with evidence, which only strengthens your point.

The Brad 09-27-2006 08:40 PM

That's just my stance because it's so absurd it's easy to make an argument for.


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