Afi are one of those bands I like ,but not love. I have Black Sails in the Sunset, Sing the Sorrow, and Shut Your Mouth Open Your Eyes. I like their earlier stuff better for sure.

"This Time Imperfect" from Sing the Sorrow is by far the best song on that album....i wonder why its only a bonus track :S

Cause Dancing Through Sunday is great.

psh those are both great songs, but Synesthesia and Now the World totally tie for best song on the album!

[QUOTE=maco]Did you just try to say that Taking Back Sunday isn't emo, but that they're goth?[/QUOTE]
no, i was just joking. because, if you're older than about... 14 i guess.. you might remember that before emo was the thing to be, goth was. at least, in my experience. but of course, instead of emo bands we get my chemical romance, just like back then goth was apparently marilyn manson and rammstein.

[QUOTE=cheeser_1]no, i was just joking. because, if you're older than about... 14 i guess.. you might remember that before emo was the thing to be, goth was. at least, in my experience. but of course, instead of emo bands we get my chemical romance, just like back then goth was apparently marilyn manson and rammstein.[/QUOTE]


I remeber those days. I loved Rammstein. :upset:

[QUOTE=cheeser_1]no, i was just joking. because, if you're older than about... 14 i guess.. you might remember that before emo was the thing to be, goth was. at least, in my experience. but of course, instead of emo bands we get my chemical romance, just like back then goth was apparently marilyn manson and rammstein.[/QUOTE]
oooo ok...I don't remember that, but whatever. I was never too good at pop culture. Rammstein is kinda fun though

[QUOTE=Rude Boy Ska]They were okay/good til they sold out.

And by 'sold out' I mean changed their sound to get on MTV, made music videos, signed a major label for money and raised ticket prices for their shows.[/QUOTE]

but they had music videos even when they werent big.
i think they had one for third season and i wanna get a mowhawk.

[QUOTE=CarrionBirds]i love old afi. black sails on the sunset, shut your mouth and open your eyes and all hallows e.p are all amazing. but new afi is garbage, i think[/QUOTE]

i wouldn't exactly call it garbage, just say the quality went down. both the bass and guitar riffs are still pretty good, the drums aren't that bad, you understand most of what sings davey the first time you hear him either in the old albums or new albums. look at the brightside, theyre not like any other band that have their video constantly playing either on fuse or mtv.

[QUOTE=imnotamusician]but they had music videos even when they werent big.
i think they had one for third season and i wanna get a mowhawk.[/QUOTE]
Mohawk didn't have a video, but He Who Laughs Last did.

[QUOTE=imnotamusician]i wouldn't exactly call it garbage, just say the quality went down. both the bass and guitar riffs are still pretty good, the drums aren't that bad, you understand most of what sings davey the first time you hear him either in the old albums or new albums. look at the brightside, theyre not like any other band that have their video constantly playing either on fuse or mtv.[/QUOTE]
the quality didn't go down, the style just changed. They started out as a generic punk band, then did some post-hardcore, then Misfits-style horror punk, and now they're in between the Misfits and the Cure. From a technical viewpoint, the music is at its best. The complexity and diversity is at its highest point thus far. Really, it's not that it's bad music, because the music is very good, but it's just not your style, which is understandable if you're into old punk and not the Cure or other 80s pop stuff and EBM and industrial and synthpop and all that other fun stuff.

[QUOTE=maco]Mohawk didn't have a video, but He Who Laughs Last did.[/QUOTE]


A video for key lime pie would've ruled.

[QUOTE=chairman_of_the_board]A video for key lime pie would've ruled.[/QUOTE]
haha that would've been really odd...i think i might make a mock-vid thing if i can figure out how...

[QUOTE=maco]haha that would've been really odd...i think i might make a mock-vid thing if i can figure out how...[/QUOTE]


Film key lime pie,but have the old original batman style things pop up and say stuff.

i was gonna take a pic of one and have it be like dancing around and having a mouth

[QUOTE=imnotamusician]but they had music videos even when they werent big.
i think they had one for third season and i wanna get a mowhawk.[/QUOTE]
Third Season is a awful video, But a really good song.

what was with the ice cream truck mutiny?

I have no idea, Thats what i didnt like about it. It didnt make any sense at all.

[QUOTE=maco]haha that would've been really odd...i think i might make a mock-vid thing if i can figure out how...[/QUOTE]it could just be 2 minutes of staring at a key lime pie. that would be so artsy.

[QUOTE=maco]what was with the ice cream truck mutiny?[/QUOTE]the guy was charging kids too much money for ice cream because he was a jerk and had some sort of effective monopoly on the ice cream.

but what does that have to do with the song at all? I mean, it's a song about autumn....

[QUOTE=maco]but what does that have to do with the song at all? I mean, it's a song about autumn....[/QUOTE]
it's more about the transition into autumn. the changing of seasons could just as easily be a revolution, speaking figuratively.

i suppose so

I HAD KEY LIME PIE TONIGHT(for thee first time) THANKS TO AFI. It ruled of course.

I'v yet to here any old afi so I won't comment, but probably the thing that makes me loathe them now is their singer. I like my punk lyrics to be be more shouted then sung. They seem to be good musicians but the singer just kills it for me. If their older stuff is sung similar to their new stuff then I'll probably dislike that too.

[QUOTE=ScuzzBucket89]I'v yet to here any old afi so I won't comment, but probably the thing that makes me loathe them now is their singer. I like my punk lyrics to be be more shouted then sung. They seem to be good musicians but the singer just kills it for me. If their older stuff is sung similar to their new stuff then I'll probably dislike that too.[/QUOTE]


I'll upload some.

[QUOTE=chairman_of_the_board]I HAD KEY LIME PIE TONIGHT(for thee first time) THANKS TO AFI. It ruled of course.[/QUOTE]
I bought a key lime pie lollipop cuz of the song one time but i never ate it

[QUOTE=ScuzzBucket89]I'v yet to here any old afi so I won't comment, but probably the thing that makes me loathe them now is their singer. I like my punk lyrics to be be more shouted then sung. They seem to be good musicians but the singer just kills it for me. If their older stuff is sung similar to their new stuff then I'll probably dislike that too.[/QUOTE]
they're heading toward Cure and away from punk. They used to do screaming punk. They even did HC for a while

[QUOTE=ScuzzBucket89]I'v yet to here any old afi so I won't comment, but probably the thing that makes me loathe them now is their singer. I like my punk lyrics to be be more shouted then sung. They seem to be good musicians but the singer just kills it for me. If their older stuff is sung similar to their new stuff then I'll probably dislike that too.[/QUOTE]
[B]Listen to this. [/B]

[URL=http://s24.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1RXT9V693KM5O1ZN45WKDRCD65 ]AFI-The Prayer Position[/URL]

[QUOTE=maco]the quality didn't go down, the style just changed. They started out as a generic punk band, then did some post-hardcore, then Misfits-style horror punk, and now they're in between the Misfits and the Cure. From a technical viewpoint, the music is at its best. The complexity and diversity is at its highest point thus far. Really, it's not that it's bad music, because the music is very good, but it's just not your style, which is understandable if you're into old punk and not the Cure or other 80s pop stuff and EBM and industrial and synthpop and all that other fun stuff.[/QUOTE]
What?!?!?

I don't get how everyone says they did post-hardcore in the pre-STS days. And I don't get the "horror punk" thing either.

The way I see it, they have been close to hardcore their entire career. Their earlier sound was similar to hardcore in the vein of 7 Seconds. Then they transitioned into a heavier hardcore sound. Then to melodic hardcore as I see it. And now post-hardcore. They may have sung about demons in some of their songs, but I think that in songs such as "The Nephilim" they are actually more symbolic of other things than actual monsters. And certainly they didn't base their lyrics off of horror material which doesn't warrant them the title of "horror punk".

shizzy has it down. i wouldn't consider them horror punk in the least. they covered the misfits a couple times. so did the bouncing souls. they used a little horror punk type imagery. so do most bands, to some extent or another.

but the nephilim aren't monsters, they're real, it says so in the bible dammit.