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Illmatic 05-31-2005 03:41 PM

Thank you. Your post was a shining beacon of open-mindedness, and has been constructive to this thread. Go give yourself a pat on the back and down a few bleach smoothies.

black\m/metal 05-31-2005 10:10 PM

[QUOTE]Immortal Technique
Yukmouth
Blacklicious
Andre Nickatina/Dre Dog
Spice 1
X raided
Mr. Doctor
Brotha Lynch
C-Bo
Cougnut
Del TFH
Dr. Octagon
Dru Down
E-40
Equipto
JT the bigga figga
Living Legends
Mac Dre (R.I.P.)
MC Eiht
Rappin 4 Tay[/QUOTE]


exactlyyyyyyyyyyy who i like! i've seen a few of them in concert too. good stuff.
this is the best list ive probably ever seen, i didnt know anybody else on mx listened to this too.
well, that made me happy.
+Jayo Felony.

tazzdevil316 06-01-2005 05:10 AM

and people wonder why rock fans...watever type you are get a bad name. Yeah many of us are open minded and give reasoned opinions...but there are sum who are hate mongerers and thats sad cos thats all the commercial world sees of us YOU'RE GIVING US ALL A BAD NAME AND GIVING PEOPLE AN EXCUSE TO HIT OUT AT US ALL.
Personally I see real rap as an artform that I dont personally appreciate, I wont bad mouth it cos i dont like it personally cos thats closed minded, just like they say metal is all noise and shouting (I SHOULD KNOW, I GET IT IN THE NECK FROM MY GF) well thats my rant for today, open your minds. please!

Iai 06-01-2005 05:16 PM

Great post.

Seriously.

Kosta 06-03-2005 06:48 AM

[QUOTE=Yngwie Malmsteen]I didn't read the whole thread, but I love Rap, and I don't know if anyone in this thread is from the bay area, so I got some recommendations. Almost everything I listen to is Underground bay area rap, with the exception of a few:

Immortal Technique
Yukmouth
Blacklicious
Andre Nickatina/Dre Dog
Spice 1
X raided
Mr. Doctor
Brotha Lynch
C-Bo
Cougnut
Del TFH
Dr. Octagon
Dru Down
E-40
Equipto
JT the bigga figga
Living Legends
Mac Dre (R.I.P.)
MC Eiht
Rappin 4 Tay

Probably a few other too, trying to think of all my CD's.[/QUOTE]


Out of those I only really like Blackalicious, Dr Octagon, Del, Brotha Lynch Hung and Living Legends.

Still, when talking Bay, you should always mention Souls Of Mischief (and the rest of Hiero), Planet Asia, and Zion I.

Hell, I'm surprised you didn't mention Ant Banks and Too $hort, although I got out of that kind of stuff ages ago.

Kosta 06-03-2005 06:51 AM

[QUOTE=The Goth]I will never like rap. I dont see any talent in telling rhymes fast which contain the guy having sex and doing drugs and getting pi$$ed. Theyre all good but why keep speaking to us about it ?[/QUOTE]


Awesome avatar you got there. Honestly, how old are you?

Kosta 06-03-2005 06:54 AM

[QUOTE=black\m/metal]exactlyyyyyyyyyyy who i like! i've seen a few of them in concert too. good stuff.
this is the best list ive probably ever seen, i didnt know anybody else on mx listened to this too.
well, that made me happy.
+Jayo Felony.[/QUOTE]


Black metal heads liking Bay area gangster rap is a beautiful sight. Not that I like gangster rap - stopped listening to it when I turned 14 or something. This is just awesome.

AblazeMySorrow 06-03-2005 10:27 AM

ok u nerds. ******s i mean. itsd itme to get jiggi wit it.listen to tupac. or JIN. or RR. they cool. just liek an ice chest

TTTSNB 06-03-2005 10:40 AM

Does anyone have somethin from A healthy distrust by SageFrancis? I've heard about him and would like to check him out.

Brewer14 06-03-2005 11:03 AM

[QUOTE=the thing that should never be]Does anyone have somethin from A healthy distrust by SageFrancis? I've heard about him and would like to check him out.[/QUOTE]

[URL=http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0A5LAWB1WSQ012R0ZQ4PTTJMHC]Sage Francis- Crumble[/URL]

TTTSNB 06-03-2005 11:09 AM

[QUOTE=Brewer14][URL=http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0A5LAWB1WSQ012R0ZQ4PTTJMHC]Sage Francis- Crumble[/URL][/QUOTE]
Awesome man. Thanks.

Brewer14 06-03-2005 11:24 AM

[QUOTE=the thing that should never be]Awesome man. Thanks.[/QUOTE]

No problem.

This isnt off his new CD but its good nonetheless

[URL=http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0AWQRI2HGWPTL2P9QZ2OZ2OX1C]Sage Francis- Makeshift Patriot[/URL]

superjoe 06-04-2005 06:30 PM

Ive heard some good rap songs, but 99% of all rap is just lame. I heard some song with this guy singing aobut how cool his 'ice' is...LAME.
Here is a small portion of lyrics from the previously mentioned song:

"I got so many rocks, on my chain and watch
I know I'm da ****, my chain hang down to my dick
I know I'm da bomb, just look at my charms
I know I'm da ****, my chain hang down to my dick"

This is just one example of bad rap lyrics, but these are pretty similar to every other rap song.

Illmatic 06-05-2005 01:02 AM

[QUOTE=superjoe]Ive heard some good rap songs, but 99% of all rap is just lame. I heard some song with this guy singing aobut how cool his 'ice' is...LAME.
Here is a small portion of lyrics from the previously mentioned song:

"I got so many rocks, on my chain and watch
I know I'm da ****, my chain hang down to my dick
I know I'm da bomb, just look at my charms
I know I'm da ****, my chain hang down to my dick"

This is just one example of bad rap lyrics, but these are pretty similar to every other rap song.[/QUOTE]

stfu

Whatsisface 06-05-2005 02:59 AM

I used to be a huge fan of rap, mostly early stuff like Run-DMC (they got some pretty cool guitar parts...) and gangsta stuff like 2pac, ice cube, etc. I don't listen to it anymore though. I think i became obsessed with rock when i started playing guitar. I think people should listen to rap once in a while, as with every other kind of music. Rap has actually really helped me write songs and poetry, and it gives people a good feel for rythms and beats. i'd still pick rock over rap any day, though.

3rdplanet 06-06-2005 06:16 PM

A friend just sent me a song by RJD2 called 'Ghostwriter', loved it.

VeedBok 06-06-2005 08:18 PM

the only rap group i really like is N.W.A and thats just cuz they ****in rule :)

VeedBok 06-06-2005 08:19 PM

[QUOTE=payer_69]the only rap group i really like is N.W.A and thats just cuz they ****in rule :)[/QUOTE]

I agree N.W.A is the only good rap group out there. Staight Outta Compton is dat **** yo

ATM 06-06-2005 09:45 PM

[QUOTE=3rdplanet]A friend just sent me a song by RJD2 called 'Ghostwriter', loved it.[/QUOTE]

RJD2 is awesome. Get some more if you can, especially the song The Horror.

exoskeletal architect 06-07-2005 05:09 AM

[QUOTE=superjoe]Ive heard some good rap songs, but 99% of all rap is just lame. I heard some song with this guy singing aobut how cool his 'ice' is...LAME.
Here is a small portion of lyrics from the previously mentioned song:

"I got so many rocks, on my chain and watch
I know I'm da ****, my chain hang down to my dick
I know I'm da bomb, just look at my charms
I know I'm da ****, my chain hang down to my dick"

This is just one example of bad rap lyrics, but these are pretty similar to every other rap song.[/QUOTE]
it so pisses me off when ppl are so eagerly prepared to generalise,stereotype and wildly make assumption.
i appreciate rap music for what it is though i listen to mostly metal/indie.
to throw wild percentages is lame..in whose opinion is 99% of rap lame? is that a fact? a correlated figure? i think not...and to say those lyrics are similar to pretty much every rap song is new to me...such wild assumptions cannot be backed.

Zesty Mordant 06-07-2005 10:25 AM

[QUOTE=bondedbybubs]I agree N.W.A is the only good rap group out there. [/QUOTE]

Public Enemy?
A Tribe Called Quest?
De La Soul?
Blackalicious?
Jurassic 5?
Outkast?
Wu-Tang Clan?

dest. Chaos 06-07-2005 02:27 PM

[QUOTE=ArrestThisMan]I've seen it a million times.

Somebody mentions rap, and about 20 comments follow with people saying how much they hate it, and how it isn't music. They claim that is just about money, killing, hoes, etc.

I can't really get angry with these people, for the sole reason that the radio is full of that bullsh[size=2]it[/size]. Someone will usually come along and say, "The underground has much better stuff." But without actually hearing some good rap, statements like that don't accomplish much.

So all I ask is that everyone gives rap an honest listen. If you like it, great, if not, then at least you have an educated opinion on it.

To understand rap, you need to know a little about the origin.

Rap is part of the hip hop culture, which also includes graffiti and break dancing. It came out of the South Bronx in the late seventies, stemming from funk and disco. It emerged as a form of self expression for the black and hispanic community in New York. Conditions in these neighberhoods were poor, and the way the people expressed this was through rap. Crews started to form, to give members identity, and this is deeply rooted in the hip hop culture.

Early rap recordings:

* Sugarhill Gang - Rappers Delight

[url]http://s21.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1DQ47TVCK9EV727DLDSHFSWQCY[/url]

* Grandmaster Flash - The Message

[url]http://s21.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=28S7IWX4P8KBU22M9IOH4CNZ89[/url]

*Run DMC - My Adidas

[url]http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1LSE6RTUNT57D0A1HVAYXR793K[/url]

*2 Live Crew - We Want Some Pus[size=2]sy[/size]

[url]http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=285JSDABNWTHM2JHQMZLMJSGWF[/url]


East coast rap:

*Beastie Boys - Fight For Your Right

[url]http://s44.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1U0W2TQXCV1C11RTNWILVIF0HY[/url]

No Sleep Til Brooklyn -

[url]http://s44.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0RB18LQ26X89H13Q7XEE0P0Z1P[/url]

*Public Enemy - Don't Believe the Hype

[url]http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0EL3LZRKPUX8J2JCZLYF18W25B[/url]

*Notorious BIG - Machine Gun Funk

[url]http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1325TMUHYKOZN05GHMYJ96PO29[/url]

*Nas - One Love

[url]http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0LOF7CQR49BP71U07YPNZGQ89I[/url]

*Wu Tang - Wu Tang Clan Ain't Nothin' To Fu[size=2]ck[/size] Wit

[url]http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3CHIV9VII20KM302WJ5D7FHVVX[/url]

Also check out Jay Z.

Gangsta rap:

*2pac - Hit 'Em Up

[url]http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2O5HOMOYB97O13SFW7IFWANBEN[/url]

Also check out NWA.

Okay, now that you have a background, let's move into some of my favorites:

*Benefit - Proceed With Caution

[url]http://s7.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3HLOTKBRZWX1K14227175DICSD[/url]

*De La Soul - Me, Myself and I

[url]http://s10.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0XU3IUXPBVBSQ1LOEASY5MCF7B[/url]

Potholes in my lawn

[url]http://s10.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=15OVV1YU2VU6B1F1HGOG5FNP23[/url]

*Edan - Rapperfection

[url]http://s49.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3PUQH502RQDKR09IKOUTPSH3CY[/url]

-Rock an Roll

[url]http://s49.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3DIQZBJ6Y5Q9E33Y5S4VL9DA2N[/url]

*Non Prophets - Tolerance Level

[url]http://s47.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1M629CH9524Z53B2N2UWRCAT0B[/url]

*Atmosphere - Shoes

[url]http://s47.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=322FWM0BGJ0X51JTS9U1VQTFYF[/url]

*Propellerheards (featuring De La Soul) - Oh Yeah

[url]http://s47.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0IK0X0UR0SR238LTO3UIFVYU5[/url]

That should get you started. Enjoy.

-Special thanks to Bartender for help with this

[b]A new FG should be ready by May 29th.[/b][/QUOTE]

screw you

ATM 06-07-2005 02:36 PM

[QUOTE=dest. Chaos]screw you[/QUOTE]

Any reason for you disliking me?

Six Foot Revolver 06-07-2005 02:58 PM

[QUOTE=dest. Chaos]screw you[/QUOTE]
Idiot, enjoy your ban :)

Permanent Solution 06-07-2005 03:00 PM

[QUOTE=ArrestThisMan]Any reason for you disliking me?[/QUOTE]
I'm thinking it was the lack of a new FG as that's bolded...maybe?

Robert Crumb 06-07-2005 04:25 PM

[QUOTE=rory_breaker]Public Enemy?
A Tribe Called Quest?
De La Soul?
Blackalicious?
Jurassic 5?
Outkast?
Wu-Tang Clan?[/QUOTE]

Pfft. He was looking for good bands. Those are [I][U]great[/U][/I] bands. :)

ATM 06-07-2005 05:45 PM

[QUOTE=zeppelinfan2k3]I'm thinking it was the lack of a new FG as that's bolded...maybe?[/QUOTE]

:lol:

That must be it.

AblazeMySorrow 06-07-2005 06:48 PM

try Ruff Ryder to those so like some harcore gangsta rap, but not as extreme as Tupac Amaru Shakur

xtheninjax 06-07-2005 08:52 PM

a good gangsta rap song is uhh

M.E.M.P.H.I.S. by Three 6 Mafia if you guys ever feel the need to check that out

jazzfenderboy 06-07-2005 09:19 PM

Rap is abousolutly horrible except like that one 911 is a joke song....sorry its just horrible...listen to jazz man it actually takes talent to play unlike rap :angry:


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