[QUOTE=an_underused_memory]Hey all, great thread,
I've just discovered it and spent all evening reading all 16 **** pages to check what i've been missing.
and so now I have a couple of points to bring up:

1) it was mentioned a while ago that thoughts re APC would be welcome here too...does that still stand, and if so may i get the ball rolling sometime soon?

2) whats everyones suggestions for other music to listen between playings of tool?
I enjoy a million and one bands but only count myself as a fan of a few, so i'd be interested to hear what other directions you have all taken.

and i thought of one more:
3) any other Australian toolheads wandering around in here?
love to hear from ya

ok, so I said two new branches in my title....but really, anyone into Danny Carey should be used to that 3-against-2 feel ;)

cheers - a_u_m[/QUOTE]

First of all, welcome! And kudos for you for reading all the pages, lots of good stuff here at the moment.

1) APC, PLC, Peach, Zaum, Aloke (tabla guy), Volto, etc. All these can be discussed here, anything that is related to tool, whether it be side projects, influences or other links. (I personally would like to find someone else who enjoys the work of Bill Hicks) All ok to discuss here, im sure that most Tool fans have a wide range of tastes

2) All of the above, plus Dream theatre and opeth seem to be two other bands that tool fans like al lot, due to meaningful lyrics and layered instruments

3) Not an aussie sorry, but I have great respect for the guys (although like I've mentioned before, i wanna find one stertypical aussie, just one!)

I got all that stuff I said off of DC++ (downloading). I also have (almost) all the Tool bootlegs and the rare stuff, etc.

C.A.D. sounds very.. different. Sort of an industrial sound for the 80s.

Zaum is pretty good, like one of their songs' titles goes, it's a Psychedelic Experience. They also have a song called Merkaba, but has no musical relation to Tool's. The backing sound/voice in Psychedelic Experience is also the backing sound in Tool's Merkaba.

Regarding Bill Hicks... greatest man to ever live. I have a bunch of his stuff too, and it's all great.

[QUOTE=swingonaspiral9]
Regarding Bill Hicks... greatest man to ever live. I have a bunch of his stuff too, and it's all great.[/QUOTE]

Good man! I just bought the book 'Love all the people' which is great to read and pick out where Maynard got influences from. tragedy that he's no longer here, I really wish that they would repeat one of his shows on TV though, especially some of the Channel 4 ones

I wanna see this Maynard video! Does anyone out here, have any good reading recommendations? Like some books Tool related? Like Adam Jones is God mentioned that Bill Hicks book. Any more?

I just saw that Maynard video. Its hilarious!

Thanks Adam Jone is GOD,
Something I've found puzzling is that in all the dissertations about Aenima the song, I can't remember anyone mentioning that a whole section of some Bill Hicks shows was devoted the "shrieks and f***ing gut-laughs" that he'd enjoy when L.A. finally collapses into Arizona Bay, like a religious experience of the christian god flooding the world in the Noah tale.
Just thought i'd mention it....i'll try and find the exact show i'm thinking of, but really its hard to go past the CD that Hicks actually titled [I]Arizona Bay[/I]!

Oh, and Opeth is already a fave, Dream theatre i've yet to enjoy, but i really should...anyone have any other listening ideas, perhaps local groups that haven't ventured as far as the land down under yet??

keep cool all,
a_u_m

hey is there a link on the net to get that particular portion of the boot(that one song)? thats really all i want...for now....Push it. plus its one of my fave songs.

This is odd....

[url]http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=307&item=4031330339&rd=1[/url]

Hmm, I would say he's proably looking to make easy scam money, but with his ebay reputation, why? It wont be Tool in any case, if it is, its unauthorised stuff. Ill dig deeper

He can afford to have negative feedback. That's the secret for big sellers. One in 200 sales can be completely bogus or a scam and it won't matter because your feedback won't sink very much.

as i don't really feel like reading over the past 400 posts, could someone sum up all the specualation about the new album in one post?

is there a release date? a name for the album? any new download only songs out? stuff like that.

ta.

There will be a new album. It will be released eventually. There will be songs.

It's going to be a little harder, since they toured with Meshuggah. According to Danny Carey, at least.

[QUOTE=Paranoidd]It's going to be a little harder, since they toured with Meshuggah. According to Danny Carey, at least.[/QUOTE]

He also commented on one song that they completed which was 'one of the greatest pieces of music he worked on'. i see this as a good omen especially at the band's reaction when they first played 'The Grudge' was a similar one, and look what happened from there.

Well thats good to hear. I can't wait for the next Tool album, and tour. Its gonna kick a.ss.

omg i aint being an *** or anything but i was on holiday and i was zooming over this whole thread it started off amazing i was gonna get my old book out and write down of what i thought tool songs were aobut but now its changed to "omg danny is so cool" or "omg adam is brilliant at guitar" christ on a bike cmon get back to sharing your thoughts on tool instead of that that was on one of the rules please this was such an amazing thread dont ruin it

watch that band suckit up to kill the name off tool' on there next cd. haha--- aenemia still theyre best cd, the last was cool other than that- I get bored listening to them sometimes. dont get me wrong theyre all talented but something about them makes me sleepy. laterz

[QUOTE=stumpetioto]omg i aint being an *** or anything but i was on holiday and i was zooming over this whole thread it started off amazing i was gonna get my old book out and write down of what i thought tool songs were aobut but now its changed to "omg danny is so cool" or "omg adam is brilliant at guitar" christ on a bike cmon get back to sharing your thoughts on tool instead of that that was on one of the rules please this was such an amazing thread dont ruin it[/QUOTE]

Agree in entirety, most of the people who were giving intelligent comments on here have either not posted for ages, or got lazy. as for me, I've not had time to recently, with exam results and all, but I am looking to evaluate more tracks of Undertow in depth.

If this thread became more intelligent again, it should remain aroubnd the first two pages more often, rather than me or another OTG having to retrieve it from the depths of.....page 8?!

my thoughts on schism.........

i know most people do the lyric thing but i dont have the time so im just gonna jot down what i think it is about
its always been aobut the catholic and prodestant thing to me cuz up in northern ireland (i live in the south sadly i want to move back to england)its horrible in one place there is a catholic church in prodestand area and all hell broke loose and the lyric "between supposed brothers" has made me think it was aobut it its weird

here **** i forgot to add this but merkaba ive been very interested in merkaba for a couple of months now and i just wanted to talk to someone about it so if you do my e-mail adress is [email]stumpy4_2@hotmail.com[/email]

[QUOTE=stumpetioto]my thoughts on schism.........

i know most people do the lyric thing but i dont have the time so im just gonna jot down what i think it is about
its always been aobut the catholic and prodestant thing to me cuz up in northern ireland (i live in the south sadly i want to move back to england)its horrible in one place there is a catholic church in prodestand area and all hell broke loose and the lyric "between supposed brothers" has made me think it was aobut it its weird[/QUOTE]

That makes sense. But i Think Schism is about communication, or lack of communication. The entire album is about communication also. I could be wrong though.

here i know this is going against the stuff i said (well not really) but did anyone know that maynard use to be a comedian???
he was

[QUOTE=stumpetioto]here i know this is going against the stuff i said (well not really) but did anyone know that maynard use to be a comedian???
he was[/QUOTE]

Hm.. I didn't know that. But he is a really funny guy. Some of the things he says are f.uckin hilarious.

i was just listening to the patient and here is my thoughts on it


i always thought the patient was about the wait for death but also mokery of organized religiong more so aobut the wait for death it just reminds me aobut the people around her they cling onto god as an escape cuz they know there gonna die and its always kinda been like that for me?

does faaip de ooaid scare anyone else after they found out what the story was behind it?

I don't know the story behind it. Does anyone mind explaining?

At Toolshed, it said that Faaip de Oiad was a call that someone made to a radio show, claiming to be an Area 51 employee and that the government was out to get him. He later admitted that it was a hoax. Was that the story behind it? Or is there more?

08 Jun 03
FAAIP DE OIAD: IAIAD DE MAHORELA
Shortly after the release of Tool’s ‘Lateralus’ CD, late-night talk radio personality Art Bell began to receive thousands of emails from listeners informing him that their favorite band had used a sound-clip from his show on their latest CD. A few days later, Art obtained a copy of Lateralus and for the next week or so began to express an interest in doing an interview with the writer of the band’s website (me) or any of the band members themselves about their experiences at the perimeter of Area 51 and the connection with the last track on Lateralus entitled Faaip de Oiad. Sometime later Art sent me an email asking if I "and perhaps another" would agree to do an interview on his Coast to Coast AM program. I suggested to Art that Danny do the interview with me, as he was the band member that was the most knowledgeable on the subject, and because Faaip de Oiad was his personal piece on Lateralus. Due to problems in scheduling (the band was touring at the time), and the personal problems that were soon to plague Art, the interview never occurred. Art has since retired due to medical problems, but had the interview taken place, this, the untold story behind Faaip de Oiad, is what Danny and I would have discussed. With one exception. We would not have made the 911 connection (in relation to the Twin Towers tragedy for the obvious reason that it hadn’t yet happened).

PART ONE: MJK DID NOT WRITE THE WORDS

I still receive a lot of email about the live version of the ‘hidden’ track, Faaip de Oiad that was performed during the latter stages of the Lateralus tour which, as I explained sometime last year, would most likely be included on the new dvd (no release date yet, I’m sorry to report). I also still get quite a few questions as to the precise meaning of the Enochian title, Faaip de Oiad (Voice of God), and the strange circumstances surrounding the frantic, some would say paranoid, voice that can be heard on the track from the Tool CD. Rather than answer all the emailers individually, I have decided that it’s finally time to explain how the piece initially came about, how the original idea was aborted to better fit with the Lateralus concept, and the truly bizarre coincidences surrounding both the original version as planned by Danny and myself along with the recorded version in which Danny utilized the voice on the "Area 51 caller line", during which time a mysterious satellite outage abruptly knocked the ‘Coast to Coast AM’ radio program and various other broadcasts temporarily off the air on the night of September 11, 1997 (yes, that’s right: 911).

First, let me clear up one thing once and for all. Evidently there are a lot of Tool fans who still think that the words that can be heard on the track were written (and uttered) by MJK (some saying that it’s similar to "Cesaro Summability" from AEnima). This is simply NOT TRUE. The obviously distraught caller was real (whether he was perpetrating a hoax or not still remains to be determined, this despite the belief by many that this same person later called back and admitted to Art that he was in fact responsible for the deception). In fact, for what ever reason, I had been recording the program that night, and it was my cassette tape that Danny used on the track. Those interested can probably listen to a copy of the original broadcast in the MP3 format that’s available via the Internet. This recording will also contain Art Bell’s voice, with his questions and responses that were edited out by Danny for use on Faaip de Oiad. For those who can’t quite make out what the caller is saying, here is a transcript (complete with verbal place holders) that was taken from the COAST TO COAST AM radio program hosted by Art Bell and transmitted from Pahrump, NV (near Area 51). There is one line in particular that will take on a new meaning in the upcoming text, but for now, read it in innocence.