[QUOTE=paper2302]sorry to change sub
Did you hear about Craig have to leave the European tour? And Sid is going to do the samples and stuff while he is gone.[/QUOTE]

yea somthins wrong with his teeth and he needs surgery, i think sid will do the samples, or at least some of the more important samples

I've noticed something at my school. I am like the biggest Slipknot fan, in like the whole state of Oklahoma but i don't wear black all the time or all the Slipknot shirts(not saying that maggots do) And any way, only me and my friend were like the only ones who did. Now this year of school a person got into them over the summer and writes it every where, started wearing black. And i have seen in posts how people hate, even despise Slipknot fans.And i think they are talking about this guy,and i'm starting to hate him because he over does it alot.But not cause he like Slipknot, but because he is feeding the sterotype. Any one know what i am Talking about?

yes there is a big difference between someone who loves slipknots and the people who are the so called "maggots" who are all ghey and poserish and are all like"(sic)". those people are just really annoying people who probabbly dont know as much as they think they do about slipknot and dont appreaciate them in the right way. these are the people that are causing all fans of slipknot to be flamed to hell. i like slipknots music but im not like freaking owned by them.

and im not talking about u paper, im talking about the "mall goth" kids who wear spikes and numetal pants from hottopic and think theyre soo cool.

Yeah

I STICK MY FINGERS INTO MY EYES!

I hate Slipknot. :D

I am another person who thinks that Vol. 3 is their best cd they put out. I could never play their other cds more than once a day, but this one I can't seem to stop playing it and I bought it when they first released it. The musicianship on it, IMO, is better than on their s/t and on Iowa. I can't compair it to MFKR because I've only heard "Do Nothing/Bitchslap" and "Snap". Aside from the awsome bass part in "Do Nothing/Bitchslap" I don't really like either one. Just my opinion.
And as for the "mall goth" thing, well I guess I'm labled as a mall goth. Maybe some of these "mall goths" just like the color (or pigment if you want to get technical about it) black like myself. I'm not saying thats all I wear, but the majority of my clothes are. And if all of a sudden these "goths" started wearing the color...say yellow, I'd still wear black. Another point is hot topic seems to be geared more twoard these Good Charlotte "punk" kids. I can't even find a Hatebreed, Cradle of Filth or Dimmu Borgir shirt in there. I'm lucky if I can get a Slipknot shirt at the one by where I live.

I dunno, Slipknot is just not my cup of tea i guess, i just cant see whats so special about them. I didnt mind S/T, but after a few listens i kept thinking "Why isnt there more? They have 9 members" and Iwoa was the same. Ive heard MFKR and it didnt do it for me either. Off of Vol.3 the only song i can say that i really like is Three Nil

^^^ as far as the previous post, the hot topic close to where i live is like a Slipknot sanctuary..If you dont like Slipknot you arent cool. I once had the girl at the counter ask me if i would shave my head for a Slipknot shirt (since they were playing near by) and i was like you gotta be kidding me, espcially not for Slipknot

Guess I should check out MFKR then, cuz I thought Iowa and self titled sucked ***. Vol 3 however was pretty decent; Vermillion is the most metal song and the best piece they've ever put out after giving all 3 CDs a spin.

They cut the solo short in the video! :angry: it's a kinda trippy video, looks like something tool would do. Pretty **** good I'd say.

Slipknot is the best band right now and Vol 3 was the greatest cd put out this year

Your just mad because it aint faggets switchfoot or Simple plan who i do not consider a musical band

Isnt there suppost to be a video for Vermillion Part 2?

Eh Slipknot I dont really know what to think of them. I like two of their songs one is duialty and the other one is ummm it gose "You cant take my soul away from me," or something Im not sure.

Sure some of their fans are bleeding idiots Aka the mall goths as someone said before, but you cant hate a band because of their fans.

I consider them nu-metal though, but not the horrible kind like limp bisket and linkion park and them.

Oh and here is a qustion for the slipknot fans here what do those two guys that sort of do nothing do? *not saying they dont do anything I just was wondering cause they dont play insterments and all the live shots of them I have seen they are just sorta standing there*

saying "what do the 2 guys that do nothin, what do they do?" doesnt help anyone.
they all do something just watch a music video.
secondly what kind of bass does paul play? i know its a Warwick but what kind of warwick. email me so i dont have to search throught the thread. [email]randy_rhoads_666@hotmail.com[/email]

"Those two guys" are percussionists. They actually greatly contribute to the percussive sound of the band, which is prominent and very definitive in their sound. While the drummer does the fast blast-beat and cymbol-crashing stuff, the two percussionists add a very rhythymic aspect to it, correlating with the bass for that heavy thunderous percussive force that locks in with the guitars. So, obviously, they are not just "doing nothing"

[QUOTE=Ozzman_666]saying "what do the 2 guys that do nothin, what do they do?" doesnt help anyone.
they all do something just watch a music video.
secondly what kind of bass does paul play? i know its a Warwick but what kind of warwick. email me so i dont have to search throught the thread. [email]randy_rhoads_666@hotmail.com[/email][/QUOTE]

You're not Randy Rhoads, why is your e-mail stating that you are? If your name really is Randy Rhoads then ignore this and if it is really not then f uck you

First off, the Vermilion video is awesome. Reminds me of something Tool would've done. The mask-over-mask thing was cool, too bad Craig didn't do it too...

Secondly, the 'two guys standing around' being referred to, are most likely not Chris and Shawn, their extra drummers, but rather Craig and Sid, their sample/media, and now with Vol 3, keyboard guy...and Sid, their DJ. Honestly, I thought they were useless too, but Volume 3 shows what they can really do.

Purity is Sid's best song.

Yeah, so I've heard.

I've never heard Purity, so I can't tell.

But I like his work on "The Nameless" alot...and the intro to "Eyeless" is pretty cool.

Slipknot doesn't have swearing on their new cd, just so it can be more "radio friendly". If thats true, then Slipknot are sellouts.

[QUOTE=libertine2020]You're not Randy Rhoads, why is your e-mail stating that you are? If your name really is Randy Rhoads then ignore this and if it is really not then f uck you[/QUOTE]
hmm, maybe he likes randy rhoades. Have you ever thought about that? Quit being a douche, douche. :lol: :lol:

1.Vermillion
2.Left Behind
3.Duality
4.Wait And Bleed
5.Heretic Anthem


thats all i can think of right now im like half awake drinkin soda and listenin to music:)

[QUOTE=CreepingBlack]Slipknot doesn't have swearing on their new cd, just so it can be more "radio friendly". If thats true, then Slipknot are sellouts.[/QUOTE]


No.I dont think that was the reason.They have matured and they wanted this album to show it.They are all around 30 years old now.They are old to be writing lyrics like "F*ck it all, f*ck this world" or "People=Sh*t".I think they realized it.Besides that this was the most important album of their career.This could be their farewell or their landmark album that will secure a few more years in their career.A curse free album has more longevity with the listener than an album with f*cks and sh*ts all over it.

[QUOTE=relliK]No.I dont think that was the reason.They have matured and they wanted this album to show it.They are all around 30 years old now.They are old to be writing lyrics like "F*ck it all, f*ck this world" or "People=Sh*t".I think they realized it.Besides that this was the most important album of their career.This could be their farewell or their landmark album that will secure a few more years in their career.A curse free album has more longevity with the listener than an album with f*cks and sh*ts all over it.[/QUOTE]

That's a stupid argument.

There are plenty of metal bands older than them and still writing much more brutal lyrics. You make it seem like in the space between the S/T and Vol 3 they had an epiphany...no, they just decided to make a soft album, is all. You're never too old to write "fvck."

Not to mention, if they purposely didn't curse on the album, after Corey doing his ****edest to portray himself as hardcore, then yeah, that would be called selling out.

Not that I care either way, I'm just arguing from an unbiased position. I liked MFKR and about half of the S/T, but thats all.

Everyone is always bashing the new cd but I feel that it is their best to date. The musicianship is much better, and while all the songs aren't heavy there are still songs as heavy as on Iowa and the s/t on it. To me this is their most complete cd, and the songs aren't really radio freindly, they just have choruses that are sung,and the acoustic songs are dark and depressing which isn't really what is normally played on the radio(although I could be wrong because I don't listen to the radio often and when I do its when the local metal show is on). To me they didn't sell out because they did something that no one thought they would or could, they made a cd with a little less edge and a lot more substance, selling out would be going back and doing another cd like the s/t because thats what got them their fame and everything so doing that would show they just want more fame and money.

[QUOTE=Paranoidd]That's a stupid argument.

There are plenty of metal bands older than them and still writing much more brutal lyrics. You make it seem like in the space between the S/T and Vol 3 they had an epiphany...no, they just decided to make a soft album, is all. You're never too old to write "fvck."

Not to mention, if they purposely didn't curse on the album, after Corey doing his ****edest to portray himself as hardcore, then yeah, that would be called selling out.

Not that I care either way, I'm just arguing from an unbiased position. I liked MFKR and about half of the S/T, but thats all.[/QUOTE]

Right, but Slipknot already built a reputation for being angsy and cursing all the time.A title Im sure they dont want.The only way to eliminate that is by removing all cursing.Slipknot matured, sure its only been 5 years, but I read interviews from 99 and I read interviews from now and I see they arent the trash talking egomaniacs they used to be.And as I said, they did it to acheive longevity.s/t and Iowa will only stay with the fans through their teens and then they grow out of them due to their immature lyrics.Vol.3 on the other hand, may have a longer run amoung them.

I think about the band live.They still do the S/T And Iowa songs live,still have F*ck you in them and the "cursing". And they are still as hard just not on this album.They got way more creative. If you listen to Iowa its alot heavier. Listen to Vol:3 Way more creative. And wy does it matter? They are still Slipknot Right? If that made any sense

I've been a fan of slipknot since ".mate.feed.kill.repead." And i've heard several interviews of them saying how ****ed up they are ect. But seems like they realized people don't even need to hear that, what do they care what you think. They said before vol. 3 came out that it was the best album they ever did. Why do they need anyones approval, hell I wouldn't give a **** either.

Yeah. Slipknot. You just wrote what i tried to. I didn't know how to put it into words.

Slipknot is cool for their sheer brutality, but 3 didnt do it for me. I was stoked to hear that Mick was gunna play solos, but then I heard them. Not impressed, sloppy and sometimes just sounded like just a bunch of notes just thrown together. Duality and Pulse are cool tho.

1 People=S*#t
2 Diluted
3 Eeyore
4 My plague
5 Surfacing
6 Heretic Anthem
7 Wait and bleed
8 Spit it out
10 Duality
11 (SIC)
12 Left Behind
13 Pulse of the maggots
14 Vermillion Part 2
15 Snap
16 The Nameless
17 Before I Forget
18 no Life
19 Welcome
20 Vermillion Part 1

In order

Slipknot built a reputation on swearing out the as[color=white]s[/color], and writing short, heavy songs. I need to find the magazine again, but I read an interview with Joey about the new album, and he commented on the lack of swearing...something to the effect that it wasn't necessary, or something, I don't remember.

Honestly, who cares if they don't swear in this album? If you actually pay attention to the lyrics, these are the best lyrics they have ever written. Not angsty? Vermilion, 1 and 2 are full of it, but they are written in a far better way than typical Linkin Park or Korn angst.

I do agree with Paranoidd in the sense that you're never 'too old' to be swearing or writing brutal lyrics...but I do disagree in the sense that I think they did have an epiphany. Namely, they got rid of Ross Robinson, and got a producer who let them do what THEY wanted to do.

Lyrics do not make an album soft or hard. If Linkin Park started swearing in their next album, that would not make them any harder than they already are (or are not). Slipknot forgoing songs like "People = Sh[color=white]i[/color]t" for songs like "Vermilion" is not a bad thing, and it does not make them any less hard than they were before Volume 3 came out. Period.