Rats, you are the man. Lol. I wanna go for a muse sound but I can't do my falsetto so well lol. I am 15 so I am still going through voice changes, so that could be a factor. Thanks for the input, appreciate it. Welp seeya fools.

Singing is all about how you learn to project air through your nose. Personally, i can either sing like im turning the volume up to ten or sing like im off. In order to sing loudly you have to build your diaphragm and your lungs so you don't die of breath. second of all, try your best to practise cutting your vocal chords abit although it might hurt. you dont want to have a soft voice, you want a rusty but clean go through your throat. when you scream, try to sing like axl rose or sing through your nose and it will help you find out wether you can sing or not.

Hey, I've been singing for 2 or 3 years, and I also play a few instruments that have aided me in the process. At this point I can sing pretty strongly, and when I'm warmed up hit 95% of the notes. People think my voice is good but some very popular comments have been that I'm not making it sound like me, that it's not original, and that it doesn't have "character" or "personal voice." How can you achieve these things? Or do they just come naturally with blending influences, your voice and practice?

yes i think it is exactly what you just said.
This is just a thought.

Well, I scream for a hardcore band. Is there anything I could do to improve my screaming?

I heard that drinking a little vinager helps you hit the higher/wierder notes is this true?

and i always sing partly out of my nose and i cant stop it, its making me mad because i sound like crap can u help me out?

[QUOTE=UninvitedChaos]I heard that drinking a little vinager helps you hit the higher/wierder notes is this true?

and i always sing partly out of my nose and i cant stop it, its making me mad because i sound like crap can u help me out?[/QUOTE]
Why would drinking a fluid help you hit notes?
Gargling it is ok for helping break up mucus because when you gargle a small amount of the mist eventually contacts the cords. Its not a cure all or miracle thing, but part of a bigger regimen i would say.
If youre singing nasally alot, then you might be tensing up your throat. The voichelp hotline has lots of tips for relaxing the throat. You also need to work on understanding when and where your shift from chest to head voice.

[QUOTE=UninvitedChaos]I heard that drinking a little vinager helps you hit the higher/wierder notes is this true?

and i always sing partly out of my nose and i cant stop it, its making me mad because i sound like crap can u help me out?[/QUOTE]

vinegar?? fu[b][i][/b][/i]ckin nasty! thats gotta be bad cuz you throw up after you drink it.

[QUOTE=Metallica6915]Well, I scream for a hardcore band. Is there anything I could do to improve my screaming?[/QUOTE]
voicehelp hotline sticky

[QUOTE=Rats!]vinegar?? fu[b][i][/b][/i]ckin nasty! thats gotta be bad cuz you throw up after you drink it.[/QUOTE]
Its not THAT bad. I drink a tablespoon a day(not for voice reasons)
Good for ya! :thumb:

[QUOTE=LeadSinger327]Hey Merkaba, don't know if you remember me. I'm the one dude with all the flem problems while singing emo lol...welp i think ive solved it...I do my warm ups all the time and I wrote my own song not trying to copy someone's vocals...kinda gave me a control of the music...like usually in other songs i try to hard to copy the guy, but when i write my own i can handle my own vocals (duh) so it sounds better, lol...and i just wanted you to hear one of my songs. and if you could please tell me if it sounds ok lol..welp thanks for all the help!

[URL=http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/startingoverusmusic.htm]The Sound Click website[/URL]

Choose "She's a whore" for my original. And "Last Train Home" to hear me sing some other dude's song lol. Thanks much.

- Cody :D[/QUOTE]

I remember you. I'm just now getting around to this post. Its late and i have dial up so i dont feel like the potential time i might have to put into now. I'll check it out soon though! Glad to see youre making progress!

yo merkaba can you check out my scream samples i posted a while ago: [url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5871310&postcount=323[/url] and tell me if they sound like im doin it right?

thanks!

They all kinda sounded the same. It's not like horrible but you could definitly improve.

They all kinda sounded the same. It's not like horrible but you could definitly improve.

Coo... thanks. I didn't try to make them sound different tho.

I got a question. I would like to know how Josh from Norma Jean ( now in The Chariot) screams. It's so unique and I love it. What exact way would you approach his scream?

k my favorite singers are by far Bruce dickenson and sebastion bach (skid row)

I actaully have a pretty good range....ive spent a lot of work on smoothing my brakes (humming up and down ur range works really well as a drill)

how do you maintain 'depth' like dickenson or bolton does....like i can sing high enough with out falsetto but i just cant get that tone/depth....

sebastion bach....its not screaming but he does these incredible 'screaches' climaxs at the end of remember yesturday and quicksand......he like screams yet still sings.... like ive heard u kind of whisper but put more air??? im lost...(its not emo screaming or watever modern dayt punk stuff)

[QUOTE=ScorpSath]Ok post tips for singing and how to improve, or give sites.[/QUOTE]
check out the thread that the guy requests advice on screaming damaging your voice.i tried to give some good advice on throat care and singing from your gut,not your throat...hope it helps! :thumb: neil

[QUOTE=JayLink]Hmmmmm Interesting questions DaneCobain. I will try to answer them.
It is pretty sad when your own parents put you down, & call your singing crap. I was lucky. back in the day, both my parents were super supportive, even when I sucked starting out.
I think you parents might have "Issues" with your singing. You might ask them nicely, if they could just stay "Neutral", while you are learning your craft.
You style of music, especially if it's thrash, punk, or death metal, might be difficult for your parents to deal with, but hey, each generation has their own music.

Also, what you heard is NOT true. When your voice breaks & cracks & you go hoarse & feel some pain...that is your vocal chords telling you to "Lay off".There is some damage going on..So rest your voice, take large doses of Vitamin C, & some hot tea with a bit of honey...
& allow your vocal chords to heal...pushing your voice harder, will only result in permanent damage...

Good luck with your parents..I hope they cut you some slack...

Rock on...

Jay[/QUOTE]
i agree.dont push your voice before its had chance to develop properly :o

[QUOTE=King_Karl]i have the general problem of being unable to sing. I am ok with a mic but without it i suck. Is that normal? The style i (am trying to) sing is a rock/grunge thing. No need to worry about screaming tho cos i've got that nailed
:smoke:[/QUOTE]
hey there!just browsing and caught this thread....if you think you suck with no mic its probably because you havent spent enough time actually developing your voice,so you lack confidence...if you are comfortable with your voice with no mic,you will find that you can really surprise yourself with how good you sound through a mic.this is the thing:if you lack confidence you will always sound weak.lose yourself in the vocal.i mean completely lose yourself in the sound of your own voice.its a big help to block out everything around you and get into a sort of meditatve state.this will help you be less shy when you sing.i can not stress how important the self confidence thing is.and remember:you will probably always sound better to yourself when you can hide behind a wall of reverb and expensive p.a. gear.the important thing is to sound good in the shower,bus stop,wherever...good luck!

[QUOTE=King_Karl]i have the general problem of being unable to sing. I am ok with a mic but without it i suck. Is that normal? The style i (am trying to) sing is a rock/grunge thing. No need to worry about screaming tho cos i've got that nailed
:smoke:[/QUOTE]
hey there!just browsing and caught this thread....if you think you suck with no mic its probably because you havent spent enough time actually developing your voice,so you lack confidence...if you are comfortable with your voice with no mic,you will find that you can really surprise yourself with how good you sound through a mic.this is the thing:if you lack confidence you will always sound weak.lose yourself in the vocal.i mean completely lose yourself in the sound of your own voice.its a big help to block out everything around you and get into a sort of meditatve state.this will help you be less shy when you sing.i can not stress how important the self confidence thing is.and remember:you will probably always sound better to yourself when you can hide behind a wall of reverb and expensive p.a. gear.the important thing is to sound good in the shower,bus stop,wherever...good luck! :thumb:

Thanks for the comments. Can you try to put spaces after periods and commas? Thanks again.

[QUOTE=evil ernie]Got a question.

I'm singin for my metal band and we had a nice little gig last friday. We had a nice stage with big lights and stuff, and a smoke machine as well. I had quite a hard time singing and I think the smoke has something to do with it. My throat was dry and I couldn't hit the high notes I usually can sing. Maybe I just had a bad day though.
Has any of you ever experienced the same problems?[/QUOTE]
its bad enough doing gigs in a barroom full of cigarette smoke,add a smoke machine and yes,you are in for trouble.the key to singing well,after all is breathing.so,if you have a lungful of smoke all night,for sure its gonna take its toll...

[QUOTE=Def_Leppard_80s_Rock]Singing is all about how you learn to project air through your nose. Personally, i can either sing like im turning the volume up to ten or sing like im off. In order to sing loudly you have to build your diaphragm and your lungs so you don't die of breath. second of all, try your best to practise cutting your vocal chords abit although it might hurt. you dont want to have a soft voice, you want a rusty but clean go through your throat. when you scream, try to sing like axl rose or sing through your nose and it will help you find out wether you can sing or not.[/QUOTE]
?????sing through your nose??maybe if ya wanna sound like some sort of nasal country singer...

Hey I just ordered the book, 'singing for dummies' as my band are starting to go somewhere with the music and we need a singer so me and the other guitarist are learning

Anybody bought this book?!

I got the book for Christmas and im reading it now. It actually covers quite a bit and I think it'll help. The CD has exercises on it that are pretty good too. I suggest you read it all the way through from beginning to end, and do all the exercises when it says to since your a beginner. The books good for the basics, but I suggest that you get a vocal trainer eventually, for maybe even just a few lessons to at least get some good personalized warm up and warm down exercises. It'll save your voice, and make it possible to sing even on your worst days with colds, flu, bronchitis, whatever it is except for laryngitis. Good luck

Why thank you :)

Cant wait to get it now

Why cant everyone be as friendly and helpful :p

Cheers :D

dude so u scream with ur throat NOT with your gut??? cuz i know plenty of people who scream with their throat. HELP

I'm nervous enough as it is about singing and today my mother went and told my auntie :angry:

Who'l probs blab to everyone else

Why the f u ck like!?

:upset: *put off*

Singing for dummies is complicated

I think I need to go to a teacher

deadinlove,
singing for dummies really isnt that complicated after you start to learn some of the terms. The best thing for you to do is go straight to the CD and just work on the exercises, and read the comments in the book on each exercise. It tells you what your supposed to be feeling while you do the exercises.