i don't really think mudvayne and slipknot should be concitered nu-metal, they don't fall into the "we're in it for the money" or shallow sort of music. And the music is not toned down so its much easier to understand.... in fact its the opposite. These bands do not sing about what you had mentioned.

Some may think opposite... but I don't think they are Nu-Metal.

Pretty good job by the guy who covered the hardcore, but I personally consider 80's hardcore and what has been termed old hardcore here as hardcore punk.
And more heavy 90's hardcore, i call just hardcore, stuff like strife, madball, indecision etc.
The metalcore was cool, but i didnt see any mention of europian bands who do the metalcore thing a whole load better than anywhere else, check out Caliban, Arkangel, and uk bands like special move, decimate, XcanaanX, 50 caliber and Raiden.
The emocore thing, well, this is a genre that is always getting messed up and should be termed melodic hardcore for bands like Poison the well and all stuff like that, simply because there is really nothing emo about it other than emotional vocals.
Screamo, good job, also if you here someone talking about emo violence, thats screamo, Love lost but not forgotten are very good band, and also after school knife fight, id say screamo / emo violence is like, grindcore mixed with jangly emo parts with high pitched screaming. but it is a very broad genre so.

[QUOTE=TempermentalGoat]Nu-Metal may have spawned some of the crappiest music in history, but as with every genre there are a few gems. I hate how people think the term is synonymous with "crap" just because a few popular artists give it a bad rap.[/QUOTE]
I agree with your whole post, but this is the best part. Seriously, nu-metal is a genre, not an insult.

somebody brought up the question about rage against the machine...

i mean... taking only the vocals id almost call them nu metal. of course they arnt, but i wouldnt know where else to put them.


someone said that NIN ar not industrial. why not? what are they? id also say that a lot of manson is influenced by industrial. (even though i would not call him industrial)

some other bands that would fit under industrial in my opinion are static x, laibach and rammstein.

anybody here know laibach?

@TempermentalGoat:

good post

[QUOTE=FatherKeeL]someone said that NIN ar not industrial. why not? what are they? id also say that a lot of manson is influenced by industrial. (even though i would not call him industrial)

some other bands that would fit under industrial in my opinion are static x, laibach and rammstein.

anybody here know laibach?[/QUOTE]
I've never heard of Laibach, but I also think Rammstein and Static X are industrial. I don't know who said NIN aren't industrial, because they definitely are.

[QUOTE=SuicidalAndroid]i don't really think mudvayne and slipknot should be concitered nu-metal, they don't fall into the "we're in it for the money" or shallow sort of music. And the music is not toned down so its much easier to understand.... in fact its the opposite. These bands do not sing about what you had mentioned.

Some may think opposite... but I don't think they are Nu-Metal.[/QUOTE]

"we're in it for the money". I've had it. I'm just gonna start avoiding anything that has to do with Nu-Metal as a topic. I just can't argue anymore.

[QUOTE]What about Power Metal?[/QUOTE] (originally posted by ragnarok snake)

power metal was mentioned.
but its a great list, i was beginning to think no one knew anything about metal anymore. and the differences between black and death metal were well pointed out, that list is the sort of thing i end up trying to explain to ignorant stereotypers (is that a word? well, you know what i mean) every day.
i might just print it out and post it around my college to set the record straight.
you picked the main genres, good idea, it would take forever to define every single sub genre that goes with them.
again, good list.

Linkin park suck monster ***...

What kind of metal is Guns N Roses??

i think you need to add metalcore

cool than ice

[QUOTE=KurtCobain2902]What kind of metal is Guns N Roses??[/QUOTE]
hard rock

Yeah, the Deftones just happen to be decent nu-metal in the same way as Billy Crystal and Neil Hamburger are both comedians. One just isn't a very good one (which one?)

who cares!!!
 

[COLOR=Purple]i like hard rock adn metal i guess, fro mautumn to ashes is real good, and i coudl go on, but hwatever, id jsut liek to say, who reely gives a daumn about the genre of music they listen to in depth, ooh well, i liek death metal, and u say some band, and then sum1 ses well ,theyr not death metal, who reely cares, i jsut listen to music, and who reely cares what it is, i jsut think its a waste of tiem to tlak aobtu what type of music ppl liek in depth[/COLOR]

i think motorhead should have been included in traditonal heavy metal, because you said that the nwobhm was included in traditional heavy metal, and motorhead was a part of it

[QUOTE=KurtCobain2902]What kind of metal is Guns N Roses??[/QUOTE]

they are technically hair metal, but to me they are a lot cooler and more hardcore

[QUOTE]I wouldnt put Slipknot and Mudvayne in the Nu-Metal catagory. Even tho they are newer bands, they both have Talent, unlike System of a Down, Linkin Park and P.O.D. I like to think of them as different, not crap.[/QUOTE]

it was there a while back, and i agree with u... most of it

sorry... what i meant to say was i agree with the slipknot and mudvayne part....
but i wouldn't call P.O.D. crap, or SOAD..... SOAD does have talent, just because you don't like them they don't suck... And as far as i know P.O.D. is talented, atleast their drummer is

[QUOTE=ludz]I think, and many people will agree with me, that Nu-Metal should be called something else. I like Crossover.[/QUOTE]

I call it pop-metal. It's basically pop-artist trying to be metal-artist in my oppinion. And I can say right away that I don't care much for it...

*putting the flame shield up*

[QUOTE=jcapGT]i think it wouldnt hurt to include love metal, that is a new classification brought by HIM from germany[/QUOTE]

- HIM are Finnish, not German.
- Love metal is a classification "invented" by themselves, in order to describe their style, which is difficult to describe ( read tag) since it has both metal elements (from influences by Black Sabbath,etc) but also Goth-related lyrics ( the way the term of "love" is treated..). All in all. HIM is like a melting pot where different "genres" are made into one astounding music.

any body listened to slipknots new cd biggest sell out ever

about the nu-metal ****
there are those who suck balls like Linkin Park
and the there are some who who are making some decetly brutal music like System, Mudvayne, and Slipknot
what bands like Linkin Park don't have is talent and roots in the scene which the other 3 do
so i agree to the terms that some Nu-metal sucks
but some of it,well, doesn't

i dont like slipknot. hah, they suck

the list is great...i like all genres of metal..i don't usualy but the bands into a "box" i just call it metal...anyway very accurate(sp) list..congrats

(Clapping) nice work :smash: :wave:

[QUOTE=br3ad_man]Thats a great list.....we also need Power Metal and Hair Metal. There are prolly others, but thats what I can think of now.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, there needs to be more "sub-genres"

hey what about,

cradle of filth, HIM, dimmu borgir, blind guardian, drowning pool, ın flames, sevendust,staind,soil

ı just wanna know 'em... ;)

[QUOTE]any body listened to slipknots new cd biggest sell out ever[/QUOTE]

Really? im not quite sure you know what sell out means.

Selling out is going against ones own principles in the persuit of money.

so have they gone against thier principals? or the fans?

(i would like to add that i dont personally like slipknot, i just wanted to clear up the term sell out)

i have a new genre. sludge metal :cool: *found on allmusic.com*