And apparently, some people (magicbus, AH) don't quite grasp the concept of "fact".

In England, AH would have been called a racist by now, and Ill would have sued for some reason.

**** politcally correct country.

I hate basketball, but if i can bet, props to it.

Its the only sport i play the most and refuse to get better at. Most people that play with me get hurt 5 our of 6 times.

Totally worthit :thumb:

[QUOTE=AntiHero3314][size=300][b]OH LOOK I CAN USE BIG FONT TO LOOK LIKE I'M TRYING TO MAKE A POINT EVEN THOUGH I'M JUST TALKING OUT OF MY BUTT! Objective vs. Subjective seems to escape a lot of peoples' minds. THERE IS NOT A UNIVERSAL RIGHT OR WRONG OPINION, STFU.[/size][/b][/QUOTE]


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Every one's opinions are subjective, there is no way around it, which in turn makes no opinion right or wrong.

heres an example

Illinois sucks

Fact: I just quoted Illinois suck
Opinion: I think illinois sucks

-and even though i think Illinois is a great team, i think UNC is better :p

For gods sake. Shut up!

[QUOTE=Illmatic]And apparently, some people (magicbus, AH) don't quite grasp the concept of "fact".[/QUOTE]

Alright, let's do it this way.

Someone considers rap not to be music. By definition, rap IS music. That makes it a fact, not opinion. So they're wrong, but its not their opinion.

Saying the sky is green, wrong, it's blue, fact.

Saying rap isn't music, wrong, it is, fact.

Saying Illinois is frantic, opinion, can't be proved wrong.

[QUOTE=88_Fingers_Joe]In England, AH would have been called a racist by now, and Ill would have sued for some reason.

**** politcally correct country.[/QUOTE]

[message edited]

Never mind.

"In my opinion, AH likes to touch 10 year old boys."

Now, clearly, this is wrong statement.

"In my opinion, Asians are the least competent race."

Ditto.

There is such a thing as a wrong opinion when it collides with a little thing called "fact".

So, how was everyones day?

my day sucks, thanks for asking. came home from school, had a fight with my girlfriend, started homework, did chores, and now i'm on here

you?

Mine was good.

And AH you didnt edit...?

And Ill SHUT UP.

[QUOTE=magicbus]
Saying Illinois is frantic, opinion, can't be proved wrong.[/QUOTE]

Well, it depends on your definition of "frantic"

I define it as playing sloppy, rushed, irresponsible basketball. Now, anyone who has watched Illinois KNOWS that they are one of the smartest, most well-run, and most patient basketball teams in the country.

[QUOTE=gocaps99]my day sucks, thanks for asking. came home from school, had a fight with my girlfriend, started homework, did chores, and now i'm on here

you?[/QUOTE]

Emo....

You could call Rap [I]poetry[/I] or [I]Storytelling[/I] with some background sounds, instead of music. :)

[QUOTE=magicbus]Alright, let's do it this way.

Someone considers rap not to be music. By definition, rap IS music. That makes it a fact, not opinion. So they're wrong, but its not their opinion.

Saying the sky is green, wrong, it's blue, fact.

Saying rap isn't music, wrong, it is, fact.

Saying Illinois is frantic, opinion, can't be proved wrong.[/QUOTE]

:lol::lol::lol:

Children, children.

This is idiotic. There is no universal perspective, as much as you wish for there to be one. People are going to think that because Illinois likes to sporadically push the ball up the floor, they will call that "frantic."

Just deal with it that people aren't going to agree with you.

My day is going fairly mediocre at the moment. I cleaned up my house, because my mom tore her ACL and MCL skiing, so she can't really do much at the moment. (refl) I started learning Ticks & Leeches by Tool. Fairly simple song, but it's got some cool riffage. I had a grilled cheese for lunch. :cool: Oh yeah, and I'm on spring break, so I don't really go to school. :doublecool:

[QUOTE=Illmatic]Well, it depends on your definition of "frantic"[/QUOTE]

I define frantic as the way Illinois plays basketball.

That's my opinion.

[QUOTE=88_Fingers_Joe]Emo....[/QUOTE]

haha, that made my day. it's funny, my rock metal friend is listening to emo because his gf

is there a smilie for "whipped?"

but yea i hate emo (yea yea it's what i'm feeling, but i refuse to listen to the music)

[QUOTE=Superpeer]You could call Rap [I]poetry[/I] or [I]Storytelling[/I] with some background sounds, instead of music. :)[/QUOTE]

"Glorified slam poetry."

[QUOTE=Illmatic]Well, it depends on your definition of "frantic"

I define it [this way][/QUOTE]

Ugh. No shi[size=2]t.[/size] People are going to define it differently than you.

How come you're the only person in this thread to not grasp this concept?

[QUOTE=Illmatic]Well, it depends on your definition of "frantic"

I define it as playing sloppy, rushed, irresponsible basketball. Now, anyone who has watched Illinois KNOWS that they are one of the smartest, most well-run, and most patient basketball teams in the country.[/QUOTE]

You're entire post is opinion. Deal with it, people think different from you. Stop trying to force your opinions down others' throats.

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]You're entire post is opinion. Deal with it, people think different from you. Stop trying to force your opinions down others' throats.[/QUOTE]

He believes his opinion is fact, and so is in the right. There's no way to make ANYONE SEE REASON! MY GOD, WE'VE TOTALLY FORGOTTEN HOW TO DISAGREE!!!!!

I vote for a change of subject and attitude. This whole Illmatic vs. everyone else is retarded.

So Jake... Therapy? ?

Hahahahaha

I'm right.

I'm so freakin' right.

Highly excited with strong emotion or [b]frustration[/b]; frenzied: frantic with worry.
Characterized by rapid and [b]disordered or nervous[/b] activity: made a frantic last-minute search for the lost key.
Archaic. Mad; insane.

Bolded = key words.

By defintion, Illinois is not frantic. Game over. I win.

[QUOTE=Superpeer]So Jake... Therapy? ?[/QUOTE]

I listened to the first one that you uploaded yesterday. Straight Life, I beleive it was called. It liked the intro, and how the main riff sort of followed that. I can't say I am very fond of the vox, however. Too closely related to the 'I'm a tough guy badass' Nickelback type. Overall, I found it to be quite a good song. :thumb:

NP: Led Zeppelin-No Quarter

How the hell do you win this pathetic argument, just because you think everyone agrees that Illinois is not a "frantic" team by pulling out the dictionary, yet only highlighting portions of the definiton because you deem them appropriate? I could bold "highly excited with strong emotion" because it's their first championship game in school history, but you don't see me being a dick about it just because I think you're a dumbass for trying to prove a point that's not there.

[QUOTE=Illmatic]Hahahahaha

I'm right.

I'm so freakin' right.

Highly excited with strong emotion or [b]frustration[/b]; frenzied: frantic with worry.
Characterized by rapid and [b]disordered or nervous[/b] activity: made a frantic last-minute search for the lost key.
Archaic. Mad; insane.

Bolded = key words.

By defintion, Illinois is not frantic. Game over. I win.[/QUOTE]

[SIZE=7][B]ARE YOU FU[B][I][/B][/I]CKING RETARDED? DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT SUBJECTIVE MEANS YOU DUMB NIG[B][I][/B][/I]GER?[/B][/SIZE]

[url]http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=subjective[/url]

[QUOTE=Illmatic]Hahahahaha

I'm right.

I'm so freakin' right.

Highly excited with strong emotion or [b]frustration[/b]; frenzied: frantic with worry.
Characterized by rapid and [b]disordered or nervous[/b] activity: made a frantic last-minute search for the lost key.
Archaic. Mad; insane.

Bolded = a form of making words appear "louder" than others so as to attract and distract attention from words and phrases that do not serve the desired point that is to be made."

By defintion, Illinois is not frantic. Game over. I win.[/QUOTE]

Fixed. Now can we please cut this out?

Nickelback? :confused: You must have been on drugs.

[size=7][color=orange] EVERYONE- IT IS GAME TIME[/size][/color]

Let's play a game, and it can go like this. I name a band, then you rate the band and tell me what you think of them. Since I am listening to Tool right now, lets start with them. What does everyone think of Tool?

Once you have responded to that band, you may ask us about another band. :thumb:

[QUOTE=Illmatic]Hahahahaha

I'm right.

I'm so freakin' right.

Highly excited with strong emotion or [b]frustration[/b]; frenzied: frantic with worry.
Characterized by rapid and [b]disordered or nervous[/b] activity: made a frantic last-minute search for the lost key.
Archaic. Mad; insane.

Bolded = key words.

By defintion, Illinois is not frantic. Game over. I win.[/QUOTE]

Frustration, disorder, and nervousness are all words I associate with the game of basketball. The entire game is disorderly: running around the court, passing back and forth, trying to make a shot, trying to keep the ball from the opposing players.

I think the game is frantic. I think the teams playing are frantic. Therefore, I think Illinois is frantic.

Wow, a lot of bit[size=2]ching[/size] going on in here.

Am I the only one who couldnt care less about the game?

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo][size=7][color=orange] EVERYONE- IT IS GAME TIME[/size][/color]

Let's play a game, and it can go like this. I name a band, then you rate the band and tell me what you think of them. Since I am listening to Tool right now, lets start with them. What does everyone think of Tool?

Once you have responded to that band, you may ask us about another band. :thumb:[/QUOTE]

Tool = Bad vocals, boring music and overfanboyed.

[QUOTE=ArrestThisMan]Am I the only one who couldnt care less about the game?[/QUOTE]

I don't even know what they're all talking about, so I care even less.

[QUOTE=Superpeer]Nickelback? :confused: You must have been on drugs.[/QUOTE]

/listens to song again

Remember, I only listened to this song once. :-/

I use the Nickelback comparison far to often. I didn't mean they sounded like Nickelback. Ah crap, the song is good. Never mind. :p


I'm starting to really feel the song, man. :thumb: GG in choosing good taste in music.

Jelle- You're supposed to name another band for us to 'critique'

That game sucks.