ya haha i probably will end up doing that, tommorrow theres a pretty big party at yet another deserted spot (but its not one we are sleeping at lol) but I will see if she's going and try and work something out there haha

[quote=Ming-a-Ling]Who puts gloves on their weiner? [B]Honestly EtP2, you need to take your mind out of the gutter.[/B]


And in all seriousness White, most girls I've met are suckers for picnics. I bet she'd like a picnic. Go find a nice spot, pretty scenery, make sure when you go the sun isn't too crazy. Take some fruits, maybe some chocolate dip for them, you can bring your sparkling apple juice, and have yourself a nice little afternoon.[/quote]


but...but...but i like it here:upset:

PS. to White: *adds*

You know...

I was going to post a response to this

Way to much to cover though and I don't know how many stress heart attacks I can take as I read and respond

Ya, apparently ETP2 loves a girl named Julie!!!! haha (sorry etp, i was getting bored)

...it starts...

haha you know you enjoy it

[QUOTE=Ming-a-Ling]What do you mean "build up attraction". It's already there. He needs romance now, not teasing. Nothing gets a woman hot like a nice cold box of wine.[/QUOTE]

She got drunk and almost felt up on his ****.. not much reall attraction yet. I'd say let it build up, but when you're 15..I guess it doesnt take much for attraction to go wild..damn hormones..

You guys are flakes

Setting up a plan of attack so you can get what you want... Everyone loves a smiling phony though and thats what people will fall for. Shallow words and a shallow heart is what rules the day in this time.

Lord knows you wouldnt actually [I][B]care[/B][/I] about someone... You're only after what every other testoterone pumped lowland gorrila is after.

Plan of attack? He's setting up a "date" or something involving a picnic and juice.. seems like he wants a relationship not just a peice of ***, although when you are 15 your relationships usually do consist of ..well making out and thats pretty much it.

I was with a girl for 5 months who wasn't ready to have sex with me yet and I respected that. We broke up recently because she was going through alot of family problems and what not. I miss her like crazy though, it wasn't about sex, still isn't I just want her back.. We never talk though, shes staying with friends cause her mom basically abandoned her. Right now shes off on some thing with her church.

Don't fool yourself

I'm sure he's just a charming little boy looking to have a nice time under the sun with his friend... Come on be realistic thats the kinda bullsh[I]i[/I]t that happens everyday and people fall for that stuff.

You know damn well the intentions of that

Jim whoa, I don't know if you relized but im trying to make her happy, not me, jeez, I could care less about my life haha, and it is what every guy does PLAN the date haha

Yeah come on guys. I think it's the fact that he refused her wiley charms in the tent, and further sexual advances makes it quite obvious all he wants is a piece of [B]a[/B]ss. Grow up White. :rolleyes:

Damn James, I think we hit a sensative subject eh? You're right though. He is pretty much just trying to seduce the poor girl. He talks about not taking advantage of her, and now he's pretty much..going to. But he does want a relationship with her.. it's not like he's going to ditch her. but at 15, like i said before, relationships are pretty much puppy love and physical intimacy..

**** I miss my girl, it wasnt even about the physical ****..

No, I refused doing stuff with her because

A) it would make her cry because she would be bashed, her friends would hate her, and she would be known as a slut

B) because i knew it would make me look good (which I am ,I don't drink, or smoke drugs)

C) because it was wrong to take advantage of her while she was drunk

D) because thats not how I wanna lose my Virgintiy (with a drunk friend in a tent)

Yes I dwould love to do her, but I want a relationship much more than that

Well whenever I see something like this it pisses me off

And wether ya think its lame or a waste of time doesnt matter to me. Maybe saying somethings like that can make someone think twice about what their going to do. After all lifes not so grand being a [I]common feeder[/I] is it?

Oh James,

Such the sensative yet wise one.

Just live life, love life,;ive love, love love..

and get right with the man.

-Tang.

lol, I love how this went from Whites greatest day ever to what (im still unsure of) white being bashed for what he did after being complimented on doing the right thing haha????? Im so confused

Your idea of the right thing is only a temporary mask though, what are you going to do next time? Why didnt ya sleep somewhere else? Why didnt ya say "Hey this aint right and get up and go sleep in a seperate area?

True Jim ,but also there were reasons why I didn't want to leave the tent lol, the fact that I was comfortable there with her, NOT having sex, and actually the main thing (no joke) that was holding me back from switching tents is because all the tents were filled with Drunk guys who (because of past reasons with drugs) I really disliked, Sarah (the girl iw as with) was actually my only friend there.

And also Jim ,i think you are failing to put into perspective the type of person I am, I ahve read the bible (im 15 remember that, no my parents don't go to church there is no religiousness in the household at all0 I have renowned my catholic faith, (only because I didn't belive in thier perspect of going about worship) I am a popular guy (not to be concieted lol, just go with it) and I still do what I think is right and only right, despite what everyone wants me to do, and YES! you are right, wanting to have sex with her is wrong because im a strong devoted christian, but I belive Sex is one of the pleasures in life and I should experience it.

What I am trying to get across is that i'm not some jerk kid that only wants her for pleasure (I told you I want a relationship with her), The only reson I ended up in her tent was because she asked me to look out for her at the party and make sure she doesn't do anything stupid or drink to much, and ya, one thing lead to another and we are in bed togeher lol. SO ya, I DO care for her, as I said we have been friends our whole lives, and ya, ts jut wierd now hat we like eachother, but don't worry i AM doing the right thing

Ya ,well Its about 3 Am now haha so im gonna leave the forums, night ya'll

you're 15 go watch cartoons

If I can give only one piece of advice to anyone on here

Simply look at yourself from a 3rd person perspective before you do anything, just think its really not that hard at all. If you do that and if you have any self worth or even a shred of carrying on a life thats decent (Im not talking about relgious freaks and born again christans and all that nonsense) you'll stop and possibly re-do what could never be un-done .

And thats not to say the people your with are equaly bad, hell they might be worse infact I could garuntee most of them are! Your few moments of pleasure can put others in alot of pain and im not just talking about sex, thats everything drugs, getting drunk everynight. Thats a selfish thing to do and if your hurting someone other then yourself then you are always in the wrong.

Its all about thinking and if you can tame the beast within you you'll make better choices through your life and you might even die knowing you did something right.

[QUOTE=black guy]you're 15 go watch cartoons[/QUOTE]
Pretty much sums up my view on this.

Relationships in high school = pointless

Teenagers should just go on casual dates, get their dating chops up and running. If they want to ****, then let them ****. Its not something I would ever do casually.

Anyway, teenagers just don't have the mindset or the calmed hormones to have a good, responsible, respectable relationship. Something that lasts over a month is unhealthy.

I believe you, because you have multiple psychology doctorates.

Those are the people you DON'T want to beleive ^^

Where do you think these retards come from in the first place? Biggest hypocritical thing in the WORLD. A male or female preaching psychology, and we wonder where these puds come from? Beleive me anyone who tells you as they lean their heads back "Weeeell im a psychology major" is so fulla sh[I]i[/I]t you could fill 2 O-zinga cement trucks with it. Well isnt that wonderful? You are an edeucated psychology major... Now every word you say was passed onto you by someone reading a book. You cannot learn those things from a book!! Its absolutley ridiculous in every single way.

There is no formality in the human behavior pattern, you dont need to do ANYTHING to learn and you damn sure dont have to pay or sit in a classroom to understand it. Simply open your eyes all the education you could ever want is right there for the taking, infact its better because the world changes again making these books and studies a joke. Throw that sh[I]i[/I]t away and keep your eyes and ears open and hey mabey you'll learn something!

I can agree there, but I wasn't really delving into that area so much as poking at what I thought was a false air of knowlege of relationships.

The world was doing fine until the new age where we went from "Everyone has their own opinions", to "Everyone's opinions are equal", and letting kids run wild.

hey, I had a 2 and a half year relationship in high school. I talk from experience. I talk from watching friend's relationships, from watching people.

Sure, you get the rare few that marry their highschool sweethearts. But then you have the type of people who date someone through the majority of high school, has the oppurtunity to try and date other people but can't because of their relationship, and then after several years, that relationship fails.

What do you gain? Nothing. You had a relationship with someone that probably wasn't *that* special, even though you thought it was at the time. You missed out on meeting and experiencing different people (and by experiencing I don't mean ****ing, I mean just by being with different people and enjoying their company) and now you're left with nothing. Since hormones are hard on teenagers, you don't take a long relationship breaking up well, because you put too much seriousness into it.

You never gain nothing man. Every moment of life is something learned.


You are never left with nothing, because as you just said, and used as evidence for your own authority. You gained experience.

If you had truly gained nothing, then you would never be able to speak on the subject.

You can hang out, spend time with and enjoy the company of people without dating them, and while you are single or not. Every person is different however, so you can meet 20,000 people and still not know what the 20,001st person will be like.





My advice. Follow your heart. You can try and plot out, anylize and blueprint your life and emotions. But it doesn't work, and never will. Have a positive attitude and be flexible.

Here's the catch though - If you aren't happy with yourself, single, on your own. Then you will not be happy in a relationship either.

I speak from experience as well. I had a 2.5 year highschool releationship. I then had a 2 year releationship after that. There was some time spent single (bout a year+). I also had a smattering of dates and so forth along the way.


Today I have a fiance, an amazing women and incredible human. I can say, without a doubt, my experience in my past relationships has allowed me to learn enough about releationship skills, and myself, to be at a point where I can be totally committed and in love with another person for life.

[quote=Ming-a-Ling]No, that's just how I have them shaved... Of course that's how he shaved me.
I dunno why I have hair there...it just grew that way. I'm sort of a hairy dude.[/quote]

The dude did that to me as well even though my upper arms have no hair :amaze:

On the upside i sat and watched him disinfect everything from the work table to his own gloves which were fresh seconds before :|

Tattoo's are for people deeplying searching for ways to make themselves unique in a egomanical conformist society but fail to see beyond the asthetics of the body.

That said, it's been the very rare occasion I've met someone with a truly meaningful tatoo. All of those were related to extreme dedication and bond through experience.