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SantaDuJuan 08-29-2005 10:58 PM

[QUOTE=RockThe40oz!]yeah, but the point was when i started to talk about rap was that i think its more respectable to sing about that kinda shi't "in a personal way" besides just saying this is my hood, a do drugs and gang bang and drivebys...or MIKE JONES! MIKE JONES! MIKE JONES!

....they can rap about whatever they want to......

but when i hear that kind of **** i just want to go and ask the rappers why they want to sound so....."ghetto"......i just dont understand why....[/QUOTE]


I see my personal argument isn't getting through to you.
Let's relate it to music.

Timmy wants to be in a Jazz band.
He learns Jazz bass guitar and practices.
In his highschool he sits with his Jazz friends, he looks like someone that would play Jazz.
He's in Jazz band at school. (I actually am :cool: )
He wears shirts of Jazz bands.

Why does Timmy do this? Because of he loves Jazz.

Why do people sing about Rap, why does Mike Jones write a song like that? Because the hip hop culture was orginally like that.
It came from blockpartys and Rapping about anything.

RockThe40oz! 08-29-2005 10:58 PM

[QUOTE=Sid]It's funny when the MTV rappers do it. I'm sure they're on the streets everyday, with their millions of dollars and bmws.[/QUOTE]

WORD

SantaDuJuan 08-29-2005 10:58 PM

[QUOTE=Sid]It's funny when the MTV rappers do it. I'm sure they're on the streets everyday, with their millions of dollars and bmws.[/QUOTE]
That stuff is shi[U]t[/U].

Bed time.

SlappedByTheClash 08-29-2005 11:00 PM

[QUOTE=Sid]It's funny when the MTV rappers do it. I'm sure they're on the streets everyday, with their millions of dollars and bmws.[/QUOTE]

Anything can go down when the Cristal's flowing.

cheeser_1 08-29-2005 11:02 PM

[QUOTE=Ihatehate]Can you really discuss African American hip hop when your not African American correctly?[/QUOTE]there's no "correct" way to discuss culture like that. hip-hop is, of course, not exclusively african american. music is a component of culture, a form of expression shaped and influenced by cultural forces - those from the culture in question and outside ones as well. you could just as easily exclude blacks from punk music, whites from ska, asians from western music as a whole, etc. but that's absurd. someone's cultural identity cannot be discerned by skin color, even if the culture in question is roughly defined by skin color in some conventional sense.

and with that, i think i'm going to bid the community thread adieu. i'm too busy now with school to keep up with 5 pages a day of crazy posts by you people. but if you start badmouthing me in here, don't think i won't find out :upset:

Sid 08-29-2005 11:03 PM

[QUOTE=Ihatehate]That stuff is shi[U]t[/U].[/QUOTE]

Good work captain obvious, brilliant work. Really.

Skidmark Steve 08-29-2005 11:04 PM

[QUOTE=cheeser_1]there's no "correct" way to discuss culture like that. hip-hop is, of course, not exclusively african american. music is a component of culture, a form of expression shaped and influenced by cultural forces - those from the culture in question and outside ones as well. you could just as easily exclude blacks from punk music, whites from ska, asians from western music as a whole, etc. but that's absurd. someone's cultural identity cannot be discerned by skin color, even if the culture in question is roughly defined by skin color in some conventional sense.[/QUOTE]

da[U]m[/U]n you are smart cheeser :thumb:

come hug me

cheeser_1 08-29-2005 11:04 PM

okay! *hug*

SlappedByTheClash 08-29-2005 11:05 PM

It's 1:05, and I really want some Gatorade.


Anyway, yeah. Rap's cool.

RockThe40oz! 08-29-2005 11:06 PM

[QUOTE=cheeser_1]there's no "correct" way to discuss culture like that. hip-hop is, of course, not exclusively african american. music is a component of culture, a form of expression shaped and influenced by cultural forces - those from the culture in question and outside ones as well. you could just as easily exclude blacks from punk music, whites from ska, asians from western music as a whole, etc. but that's absurd. someone's cultural identity cannot be discerned by skin color, even if the culture in question is roughly defined by skin color in some conventional sense.[quote]

yes, EXACTLY

and what i was saying is that i think that it is more of a respectable thing to write music and lyrics that explore a kind of new frontier for the genre...

such as kanye west...

not that its bad to stick to your roots or w/e...

Sid 08-29-2005 11:08 PM

Yeah cheeser over-analyzes everything, that must mean he's [I]brilliant[/I] too.

That's amazing reasoning. It's dangerous to have chairs in a room, Cheeser would gladly analyze their impact on society as a whole.

RockThe40oz! 08-29-2005 11:08 PM

hahahaha

really *bravo* Cheeser

RIP Ian Curtis 08-29-2005 11:14 PM

i say "meh" to rap music.

SlappedByTheClash 08-29-2005 11:16 PM

[QUOTE=RIP Ian Curtis]i say "meh" to rap music.[/QUOTE]

I say "meh" to j00.

RockThe40oz! 08-29-2005 11:18 PM

cause im a motha fu<kin' P.I.M.P!

RIP Ian Curtis 08-29-2005 11:31 PM

*has been owned*

KingOfSka 08-29-2005 11:49 PM

[QUOTE=RIP Ian Curtis]*has been owned*[/QUOTE]

j00 |-|@\/3 |333|\| 0\/\/|\|3D

(r)evolution 08-29-2005 11:50 PM

i wanna do a band profile

KingOfSka 08-29-2005 11:52 PM

[QUOTE=(r)evolution]i wanna do a band profile[/QUOTE]

Do one on Big D & The Kids Table. Do it well, and I will love you forever. Do it poorly and I will kill you in your sleep.

Edit: Or the Assorted Jelly Beans, that would be cool.

(r)evolution 08-29-2005 11:55 PM

I was thinking Propagandhi, but hmmm....

KingOfSka 08-29-2005 11:55 PM

In other news, is it just me, or has everyone got a new avatar recently?

Brain Toad 08-29-2005 11:58 PM

[QUOTE=SkaBandit]In other news, is it just me, or has everyone got a new avatar recently?[/QUOTE]

It's just you fagarino

(r)evolution 08-30-2005 12:01 AM

[QUOTE=SkaBandit]In other news, is it just me, or has everyone got a new avatar recently?[/QUOTE]

I suggest you hop on the band wagon *shake fist* Hop on it!

KingOfSka 08-30-2005 12:06 AM

[QUOTE=Brain Squirmin' Like a Toad]It's just you fagarino[/QUOTE]

:lol:

Nick, you know in the thread where it lists all the band profiles that people have done over time? Well I did a profile on the Planet Smashers a while back, before I had my account merged. So the link says "The Planet Smashers by StuckPunk". But when you click it, the author of the thread is SkaBandit. So you might want to change it. :thumb:

Sid 08-30-2005 12:07 AM

[QUOTE=SkaBandit]:lol:

Nick, you know in the thread where it lists all the band profiles that people have done over time? Well I did a profile on the Planet Smashers a while back, before I had my account merged. So the link says "The Planet Smashers by StuckPunk". But when you click it, the author of the thread is SkaBandit. So you might want to change it. :thumb:[/QUOTE]

I think fagarino explained it.

Brain Toad 08-30-2005 12:08 AM

[QUOTE=SkaBandit]:lol:

Nick, you know in the thread where it lists all the band profiles that people have done over time? Well I did a profile on the Planet Smashers a while back, before I had my account merged. So the link says "The Planet Smashers by StuckPunk". But when you click it, the author of the thread is SkaBandit. So you might want to change it. :thumb:[/QUOTE]

I fixed the other ones, I was just too lazy to fix them all. I was going through changing the links to be [ thread] instead of [ url]

AndreTheHyena 08-30-2005 12:08 AM

I just watched the Hellcat DVD and it was really good, you guys are stupid.

All of the acoustic Rancid songs were amazing.

KingOfSka 08-30-2005 12:09 AM

[QUOTE=AndreTheHyena]I just watched the Hellcat DVD and it was really good, you guys are stupid.

All of the acoustic Rancid songs were amazing.[/QUOTE]

I'm one of the few people who didn't nay say the Hellcat DVD, and who still likes Rancid.

(r)evolution 08-30-2005 12:11 AM

[QUOTE=AndreTheHyena]I just watched the Hellcat DVD and it was really good, you guys are stupid.

All of the acoustic Rancid songs were amazing.[/QUOTE]

I've been wanting to see that for a while. What exactly does it contain?

RIP Ian Curtis 08-30-2005 12:11 AM

I still like rancid, I just pretend I don't in public so that punx don't spit on me.

KingOfSka 08-30-2005 12:13 AM

[QUOTE=RIP Ian Curtis]I still like rancid, I just pretend I don't in public so that punx don't spit on me.[/QUOTE]

I don't pretend to not like Rancid, and thus far I haven't been spit on.

(r)evolution 08-30-2005 12:14 AM

you can still be punX and like rancid, you just have to hate everything after '95 and diplore it as crappy (which is true)

Drop The Baby 08-30-2005 04:15 AM

Good sh!t: [url]http://uk.news.yahoo.com/28082005/323/brits-driving-austrians-bonkers-rude-village-name.html[/url]

Man i have seen some good bands over the last four days

RCVA 08-30-2005 04:21 AM

[QUOTE=Drop The Baby]Good s[B][I][/I][/B]hit: [url]http://uk.news.yahoo.com/28082005/323/brits-driving-austrians-bonkers-rude-village-name.html[/url][/QUOTE]
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

StruckEverywhere 08-30-2005 04:45 AM

[QUOTE=Drop The Baby]Good sh!t: [url]http://uk.news.yahoo.com/28082005/323/brits-driving-austrians-bonkers-rude-village-name.html[/url][/QUOTE]

Only the British.




















I'm glad I'm one.

RCVA 08-30-2005 05:04 AM

Britain represent!

StruckEverywhere 08-30-2005 05:16 AM

[QUOTE=RCVA]Britain represent![/QUOTE]

Hmmm, I'd rather be a Kiwi.

User Name 08-30-2005 08:09 AM

im back.

RCVA 08-30-2005 08:17 AM

Hello.

Shtein 08-30-2005 08:28 AM

Another community thread name change... I like it!


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