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EinzingerIsGod 04-17-2006 01:06 PM

[QUOTE=Damien Rhodes]Just stop thinking like that.[/QUOTE]

If you talk to her and she's still annoyed by the whole situation this is about all you can do. I'm not sure to what extent you've really talked to her about this so that's why I'm suggesting the communication route. However, if she's still bothered by you bringing this up it's in your best interest to just drop it and change your mindset.

Special Brew 04-17-2006 01:11 PM

[QUOTE=Whatsisface]I really don't think there's much SHE can do about it.. I think it's all ME.
I think I'm too insecure and I make it that way myself.. I mean.. she's just good friends with other guys, and I'm just a really jealous person.. is there anything at all I can do?[/QUOTE]
Unless you have a VERY good reason to suspect she's falling for someone else, don't worry about it. You need to let her have her friends and have some distance away from you.

EinzingerIsGod 04-17-2006 01:14 PM

[QUOTE=Damien Rhodes]Unless you have a VERY good reason to suspect she's falling for someone else, don't worry about it. You need to let her have her friends and have some distance away from you.[/QUOTE]

Agreed. A kid I know is very intrusive in his girlfriend's life. He is constantly calling her and is very insecure about their relationship. Make sure you don't take it to this point. That will only put a strain on your relationship and you can be sure that it will come to an end fairly quick.

Whatsisface 04-17-2006 01:22 PM

Thanks guys.. I'll try and be more comfortable from now on.. I've said that before but I'm serious this time. I've had this problem before and that relationship went down the drain..

Steerpike 04-17-2006 03:06 PM

[QUOTE=Whatsisface]I really don't think there's much SHE can do about it.. I think it's all ME.[/quote]

Duh!

[quote]I think I'm too insecure and I make it that way myself.. I mean.. she's just good friends with other guys, and I'm just a really jealous person.. is there anything at all I can do?[/QUOTE]

What you need to do is haul yourself up by the bootstraps and realize that the reason you're so insecure is because you don't trust yourself enough to keep her around. And by nagging her about it, you're just making it even worse because it makes her see you as clingy, needy, and jealous.

The only thing you can do is take some time out for a serious personal evaluation, and then take steps to prove to yourself that you do not need to emotionally attach yourself to another human being like this.

Tillius 04-17-2006 04:13 PM

Well, today I was given horrible news by a friend.
That Pamela was going out with a guy named David. A friend of mine.
Turns out, it isn't true. It was just somebody that for some reason is pissed at me, and told my friend about it because he knew that he'd tell me and I'd get all upset.

My question. Why am I such a loser?
Under normal conditions, I would NOT let a girl get me like this, and I would have been like to hell with it and not been how I am right now.
I don't understand it.

Tiger 04-17-2006 04:55 PM

[QUOTE=Tillius]
My question. Why am I such a loser?
Under normal conditions, I would NOT let a girl get me like this, and I would have been like to hell with it and not been how I am right now.
I don't understand it.[/QUOTE]


Are you on your period?

Chaindrive 04-17-2006 05:00 PM

[QUOTE=Tillius]Well, today I was given horrible news by a friend.
That Pamela was going out with a guy named David. A friend of mine.
Turns out, it isn't true. It was just somebody that for some reason is pissed at me, and told my friend about it because he knew that he'd tell me and I'd get all upset.

My question. Why am I such a loser?
Under normal conditions, I would NOT let a girl get me like this, and I would have been like to hell with it and not been how I am right now.
I don't understand it.[/QUOTE]

Hate to tell you that sometimes it happens. Also, hate to tell you that it's hell to let it go.

~grif~ 04-17-2006 05:10 PM

Sierra is coming tomorrow to meet all my friends and im feeling weird.

Steerpike 04-17-2006 05:58 PM

It'll pass. It's to be expected.

Incidentally grif, I did give a somewhat detailed response to your say statement the other day about my reading up books on interacting with people making me fake (yes, I'm paraphrasing). I would appreciate it if you would look it over and at least hear me out before you write me off the way you did.

~grif~ 04-17-2006 06:16 PM

[QUOTE=Steerpike]It'll pass. It's to be expected.

Incidentally grif, I did give a somewhat detailed response to your say statement the other day about my reading up books on interacting with people making me fake (yes, I'm paraphrasing). I would appreciate it if you would look it over and at least hear me out before you write me off the way you did.[/QUOTE]
oh ok
was just my opinion anyway man
not saying its wrong to do it - just to me, i wouldnt do that. what you see is what you get sorta thing

Steerpike 04-17-2006 06:20 PM

To play devil's advocate, you're not compromising yourself at all. I never heed the sort of advice I reference in this book unless it contributes to personal progress and/or in some way promotes physical, mental, or emotional health.

If you think about it, the advice I was referencing is really no different than telling someone "Exercising to stay healthy is a good idea."

~grif~ 04-17-2006 06:20 PM

[QUOTE=Steerpike]How am I compromising myself by seeking to improve my general behavior? Am I supposed to remain stagnant in mediocrity because I was born that way?

Let me tell you something. Before I began my quest of self-improvement I was a downright miserable sum'bitch. I had no self-esteem, I was prone to frequent depressive episodes, I was [i]under[/i]weight because of the poor job I did in taking care of myself, I hated people and went to great lengths to avoid them... In short, I was on the road to nowhere. And you know what? I'd been that way my entire life.

By your logic, I should have stayed that way because that was "being myself." That was how I was born, that was how I had lived my entire life.

[B]But I wasn't happy that way. I was miserable, angry, self-loathing, and petulent. And in high school, I decided that enough was enough.[/B]

The last 5 years of my life have been a quest to become the person I wanted to be in my dreams. And I've made significant progress along the way. I've broken a lot of old bad habits, I'm coming out of my shell, I'm becoming a more well-rounded individual. For the first time in my life, I'm starting to feel optimistic.

And you know why? Because this is the person I'm supposed to be. And you want to tell me I'm not being myself?[/QUOTE]


Well im sure you realised that yourself as you said right there in bold, that you were unhappy. Im sure you would of gotten up off you're *** and done something about it yourself after you realised it.
But im sure the book helped you.

Im not saying its wrong to use the books, or its sad to use them. Im sure some of the stuff in that book would be great for anyone, but some of the things like someone said "making a slow smile" i find to be really forced out. Like. You can change yourself all you want, take advice all you want, but you are just building yourself onsomeone elses dream, not yours.

Chaindrive 04-17-2006 06:23 PM

[QUOTE=~grif~]Well im sure you realised that yourself as you said right there in bold, that you were unhappy. Im sure you would of gotten up off you're *** and done something about it yourself after you realised it.
But im sure the book helped you.

Im not saying its wrong to use the books, or its sad to use them. Im sure some of the stuff in that book would be great for anyone, but some of the things like someone said "making a slow smile" i find to be really forced out. Like. You can change yourself all you want, take advice all you want, but you are just building yourself onsomeone elses dream, not yours.[/QUOTE]

And when you get to be my age, Kev, you realise that when you're young, there are things that you might not notice to improve yourself, just because of the fact that you haven't been alive long enough.

I don't buy into all of what the self-help books say, because sometimes I think it's a crock, but sometimes they can be helpful.

~grif~ 04-17-2006 06:27 PM

[QUOTE=Chaindrive]And when you get to be my age, Kev, you realise that when you're young, there are things that you might not notice to improve yourself, just because of the fact that you haven't been alive long enough.

I don't buy into all of what the self-help books say, because sometimes I think it's a crock, but sometimes they can be helpful.[/QUOTE]
Well now that you say that.

I can sit back, think of anything that i would like to improve on myself right now. The only thing really is go to the gym and get big and strong. Im alright, i have a good life, good friends, good social life and can talk to people easy.

When i get as old as you are ;) - im sure il see something else, but i cant change time.

Chaindrive 04-17-2006 06:39 PM

No you can't change time...neither can I.

But, there are tricks that you learn as you get older that are useful.

Jom 04-17-2006 06:43 PM

I'm perfect. Save for a couple minor details, I'm the excellence of execution.

Chaindrive 04-17-2006 06:46 PM

[QUOTE=Jom]I'm perfect. Save for a couple minor details, I'm the excellence of execution.[/QUOTE]

:rolleyes:

Yeah, except for the fact that you LIE.

Jom 04-17-2006 06:50 PM

Not really. I just fracture truth to people I don't know personally.

It doesn't hurt anything.

:s

EinzingerIsGod 04-17-2006 07:02 PM

[QUOTE=Chaindrive]:rolleyes:

Yeah, except for the fact that you LIE.[/QUOTE]

You mean mods aren't infallable?

Chaindrive 04-17-2006 07:04 PM

[QUOTE=EizingerIsGod]You mean mods aren't infallable?[/QUOTE]

He LIES to his friends.

EinzingerIsGod 04-17-2006 07:05 PM

Well this changes everything...

Steerpike 04-17-2006 07:08 PM

[QUOTE=~grif~]but some of the things like someone said "making a slow smile" i find to be really forced out. Like. You can change yourself all you want, take advice all you want, but you are just building yourself onsomeone elses dream, not yours.[/QUOTE]

How is it forced to do what's supposed to be natural? How is smiling slowly any more fake than a very quick forced smile that the majority of people believe they have to do in order to look proper?

The thing is, smiling after considering first what the person speaking to you actually said is what is supposed to be natural to humans. If you watch you'll probably see it in little kids. There's about a half-second delay between when you finish the thought and when they smile.

But as people become older, we start to get this feeling of "Oh, if I don't smile immediately, they'll think I'm only faking it," when in truth you're already faking it by taking that route.

Everything is theory and action. It seems to me the reason most people who would think I'm being fake in taking this advice are approaching the idea from a paradigm of all action, no theory.

ThePinkPanther 04-17-2006 07:12 PM

kimmie!

just a question...is chaindrivekimmie your sn

Chaindrive 04-17-2006 07:25 PM

[QUOTE=ThePinkPanther]kimmie!

just a question...is chaindrivekimmie your sn[/QUOTE]

Yes, on AIM.

ThePinkPanther 04-17-2006 07:27 PM

[QUOTE=Chaindrive]Yes, on AIM.[/QUOTE]

i just may IM you...just maybe

RulesRBeingBroke, just so you know it's not some crazy stalker dude

Chaindrive 04-17-2006 07:30 PM

Evan, it's impossible for someone to actually stalk a 47 year old.

ThePinkPanther 04-17-2006 07:31 PM

[QUOTE=Chaindrive]Evan, it's impossible for someone to actually stalk a 47 year old.[/QUOTE]

Not true.

Chaindrive 04-17-2006 07:37 PM

God, why on earth would you want to?

EBS77 04-17-2006 08:13 PM

Hmm 1st post in here. Well this question makes me feel kinda pathetic, but I'm sure I'm not the only one that's ever had this problem. I have no clue what to do when it comes to kissing/making out etc. Anyone have any tips? Thanks everyone.


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