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RockAndRoll 08-23-2004 09:29 PM

[QUOTE=jpjrulestheworld]anyone heard the new rush cd? the one that's all covers[/QUOTE]
I've heard two of the songs, and they weren't bad but i liked the originals alot more.

NsD 08-23-2004 09:29 PM

the concert was amazing. neil peart is a drum god.

jpj 08-23-2004 09:30 PM

[QUOTE=NsD]rush. i think.[/QUOTE]
i was referring to the guy above you

NsD 08-23-2004 09:30 PM

[QUOTE=RockAndRoll]I've heard two of the songs, and they weren't bad but i liked the originals alot more.[/QUOTE]

yeah the originals are better. i don't know about you guys, but i tend to like the original songs better only because theirs more feeling in those.

themightyquinn23 08-23-2004 09:30 PM

Zeppelin stealing music

EDIT: to jp

jpj 08-23-2004 09:31 PM

we did that topic

themightyquinn23 08-23-2004 09:32 PM

[QUOTE=jpjrulestheworld]we did that topic[/QUOTE]
Did I say I was trying to bring it up again?

Paranoidd 08-23-2004 10:47 PM

[QUOTE=badmoon349]A good portion of us here are on drugs. But I'm not satanic, nor am I going to put satanic messages on my albums.[/QUOTE]

I'm stoned :smoke:

I like how Kerry King put it:

"I don't believe in God, so I don't believe in Satan. But Satan is more fun to write about" - Guitar World, August 2004

Veteran of the psychic wars 08-24-2004 08:15 AM

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]Hmmm, by that I assume you mean the only three songs people tend to know about: Reaper, Godzilla, Burnin' (in short hand).

Out of those Godzilla is the best, but I've heard stuff that can bury these. Yeah, I unfortunately have their greatest hits CD, and have heard two of my dad's LPs (Agents of Fortune and Fires of Unknown Origins) which both were okay.

But I must say that their pre-Reaper stuff kicked extraordinary ***. Cities on Flame, Flaming Telepaths, and Astronomy....oh my god! Especially Astronomy, one of the single greatest rock ballads of all time. Even some of the later seventies stuff was pretty decent that know one knows about (In Thee, Black Blade).

However, I must admit after Albert Bouchard was kicked out, they really started making ****ty music.

Anyway, I don't see whats really great about Don't Fear the Reaper (except that middle heavy section was pretty cool). But BOC does have plenty of hidden gems. Plenty. I plan on getting Secret Treaties as soon as I have CD money again.[/QUOTE]

You're pretty much spot on. After they kicked Albert out, the worst thing they did was Club Ninja. But that did have 'Perfect Water' on it, which is beautiful. So it wasn't that bad. And I have a rare live bootleg with some Club Ninja material on it, and that stuff kick a*s live! Then they did nothing except tour for a decade, but, they released two studio albums (Heaven Forbid, and Cure Of The Hidden Mirror) with Danny Miranda on bass, and Bobby Rondinelli on drums. Great albums, especially Heaven Forbid.
And they released a live DVD and CD called 'A Long Days Night' which proves they've still got it. And Buck Dharma is better than ever. Amazing guitarist.

[URL=http://www.blueoystercult.com/Studio/BOCBucksBoogie.mp3]Buck's Boogie (live)[/URL] from the DVD/CD

If you get a chance to see them, go for it. I saw them in June, it was awesome.

gmoneyguy 08-24-2004 08:32 AM

[QUOTE=Paranoidd]I'm stoned :smoke:

I like how Kerry King put it:

"I don't believe in God, so I don't believe in Satan. But Satan is more fun to write about" - Guitar World, August 2004[/QUOTE]
What about zeppelin, I always hear them being called satanic...I don't hearing anything in their music that leads me to believe that(cept for the backwards stairway to heaven)

Paranoidd 08-24-2004 08:40 AM

There is some stuff in there, yeah. Even Stairway played forwards has its messages.

I work with born again christians who study this stuff...they've told me the symbolism behind it, and it does make sense what they say. Not that I care, Zeppelin still owns. I trade Zepp bootlegs with one of those guys. He's a cool christian :)

The Minstrel 08-24-2004 09:43 AM

[QUOTE=Paranoidd]There is some stuff in there, yeah. Even Stairway played forwards has its messages.

I work with born again christians who study this stuff...they've told me the symbolism behind it, and it does make sense what they say. Not that I care, Zeppelin still owns. I trade Zepp bootlegs with one of those guys. He's a cool christian :)[/QUOTE]

I'm a christian, but Zeppelin is still my all time favorite band. Yeah they had their messages, but the music still rocks. Jimmy Page was not a satanist, but he was very interested in the occult. He bought a noted satanist's house for whatever reason. It had no stairways in it, to heaven or otherwise. Aside from that, they were nothing more than the greatest band of the age.

AlyssaLovesThe80's 08-24-2004 09:59 AM

I Have Always Listened To Classic Rock Sence Well I Cant Remeber I Started Listening To It At School And Now All My Friends Love It. :naughty:

Paranoidd 08-24-2004 10:00 AM

One of them told me he was going to pray for my soul :lol:

Paranoidd 08-24-2004 10:03 AM

I don't know how popular they are outside of Canada, but does anybody like The Tragically Hip?

Elfie 08-24-2004 10:03 AM

There's a difference between writing about satanism and believing in it. I dislike how people call the Eagles' satanic because Hotel California, for example. They wrote a fictional piece, that if anything condemns satanism and it bothers that people see certain symbols and immediately brand songs and artists as satanists.

rockeded not rolleded 08-24-2004 11:37 AM

Looks like I missed some amazing discussions...


Led Zeppelin used some songs from other artists but changed them enough to make people not realize.

I've lost a little respect for them musicly but at the end of the day all that matters is what comes out of the sterio (sp). The fact is they made brilliant music (a lot of it which was 100% original) and that's all that really matters.


On a side note the clasic rock radio station in my city played some Jeff healey. Therfore that makes him classic. Now you can put that in your bong and smoke it, badmoon :) (and the other non believers *shakes fist*).

lunch998 08-24-2004 12:36 PM

Not trying to start this again, but Zeppelin had a lot of great original songs, but we only mentioned the very few that were "Stolen".

And there is the myth about Led Zeppelin making a deal with the Devil to get their instant sucess. The only one who didn't make the deal was John Paul Jones. People who believe in this use Bonzo dying and Robert Plants Son dying as proof. The lyrics to "Nobodys Fault But Mine" also testify to this rumor.

Paranoidd 08-24-2004 12:39 PM

Rock, how come you keep getting banned?

rockeded not rolleded 08-24-2004 12:44 PM

[QUOTE=lunch998]Not trying to start this again, but Zeppelin had a lot of great original songs, but we only mentioned the very few that were "Stolen".

And there is the myth about Led Zeppelin making a deal with the Devil to get their instant sucess. The only one who didn't make the deal was John Paul Jones. People who believe in this use Bonzo dying and Robert Plants Son dying as proof. The lyrics to "Nobodys Fault But Mine" also testify to this rumor.[/QUOTE]

That didn't happen. Probably just some idiot with nothing better to do making up junk.

I agree with the fact that they had great original songs and the songs that they "stole" they made even better than the originals. Saying "zeppelin stole songs" is like saying Hendrix stole all along the watchtower.

I keep getting banned either for

1. Making threads that are fine but some idiot reports them to the site forum and basicly if anything get reported to the site forum it gets closed and the person gets banned.

2. Just plain spamming.

I'm making an effort to stay out of the pit ;)

lunch998 08-24-2004 12:48 PM

Yea I don't believe in the rumor either, probably the same losers made it up that think that they have satanic messages in Stairway to Heaven intentionally.

rockeded not rolleded 08-24-2004 12:55 PM

I think the stairway backwards thign was intentional. Bands like to have mysterys to their music. From songs like whole lotta love, black dog, heartbreaker and such nobody would even consider the possibily of them being satanists. So zeppelin probably decided to mess with some people's minds. If my band ever gets big i'm loading our songs full of weird messages just for fun.

Seafroggys 08-24-2004 02:20 PM

[QUOTE=Veteran of the psychic wars]You're pretty much spot on. After they kicked Albert out, the worst thing they did was Club Ninja. But that did have 'Perfect Water' on it, which is beautiful. So it wasn't that bad. And I have a rare live bootleg with some Club Ninja material on it, and that stuff kick a*s live! Then they did nothing except tour for a decade, but, they released two studio albums (Heaven Forbid, and Cure Of The Hidden Mirror) with Danny Miranda on bass, and Bobby Rondinelli on drums. Great albums, especially Heaven Forbid.
And they released a live DVD and CD called 'A Long Days Night' which proves they've still got it. And Buck Dharma is better than ever. Amazing guitarist.

[URL=http://www.blueoystercult.com/Studio/BOCBucksBoogie.mp3]Buck's Boogie (live)[/URL] from the DVD/CD

If you get a chance to see them, go for it. I saw them in June, it was awesome.[/QUOTE]

Er, I heard they were coming to town like in January, but I put that in the back of my mind. Then in March, at school I went to their website to confirm if they were coming to Portland, and they were......one week before...

Argh, I was so **** pissed.

Communication Breakdown 08-24-2004 02:54 PM

I like Led Zeppelin the best! i agree with the beatles, they aren't hard rock at all!

rockeded not rolleded 08-24-2004 03:11 PM

Of course the beatles aren't hard rock. What kinda crack pot said they were?

Badmoon 08-24-2004 03:19 PM

[QUOTE]And there is the myth about Led Zeppelin making a deal with the Devil to get their instant sucess. The only one who didn't make the deal was John Paul Jones. People who believe in this use Bonzo dying and Robert Plants Son dying as proof. The lyrics to "Nobodys Fault But Mine" also testify to this rumor.[/QUOTE]

:lol:

I wouldn't be surprised, because who hasn't been driven in by the devil's spell? Badmoon, the man of God or in some cases Jah

i hate led zeppelin 08-24-2004 03:21 PM

[QUOTE=B0nz0]i think the master of classic rock is still bob dylan...no1 writes songs like bob dylan...no1 else sings like bob dylan either, which is a good thing. but he plays a mean guitar and harmonica and has written some of the most amazing music ever.[/QUOTE]


Dylan really isnt rock & roll. He is definately more folk.
I can understand saying rock & roll if you consider his music after he went electric and had the band as his backing band. But even with his electric stuff if u listen to the lyrics they are far more down to earth than anything any steriotypical classic rock band like jimi or the doors played.

Badmoon 08-24-2004 03:24 PM

[QUOTE]Dylan really isnt rock & roll. He is definately more folk. [/QUOTE]

Dylan is Folk Rock. He didn't always have the traditional 3 chord progression, Blues orientated, solo sound. But he took it to Country. Which was how it was originally, in a way.

Communication Breakdown 08-24-2004 03:54 PM

ah arse, i dunno who said the beatles were hard rock, i just read it somewhere and thought i would comment on it!

RockAndRoll 08-24-2004 04:01 PM

[QUOTE=Paranoidd]There is some stuff in there, yeah. Even Stairway played forwards has its messages. [/QUOTE]
Where?


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