[QUOTE=fat_****103]He didn't say there were no hardcore bands in the early 80's, he said that there wasn't the kind of hardcore movement in the early 80's as there was in the late 80's[/QUOTE]


The hardcore movement was huge in the early 80s dude, and far more real. Ask anyone who was a part of it, and read the book "American Hardcore", and look at old issues of Maximum Rock N Roll, and you tell me that there was not the kind of hardcore movement in the early 80s. Were kids dressing like jocks then and doing karate on the dance floor - no. The shows were a hell of a lot more chaotic tho, and there was a massive - completely massive hardcore scene. You really sound like an ignorant little kid to say there was no no important hardcore movement in the 80s. Id like to see what bands like Gorilla Biscuits and Judge would say if you told them there was no real hardcore scene before them.

[QUOTE=shane italian]Take some English Comprehension class...you need it.

Kids in the early 80s didn't exactly go around saying "Hey, I'm going to a rad hardcore show tonight" when they talked about Minor Threat. Just as people didn't refer to Moss Icon as an emo band when they were starting up.[/QUOTE]

I was there - you were not. YES people referred to it as a hardcore scene. Why do you think compilations such as "HARDCORE 84" and DOA's "HARDCORE 81" lps were reffering to the term as "HARDCORE".

They would say "Thanks bro!" and give me a free t-shirt.

[QUOTE=SPLATTER PUNX]WHAT?????Are you smoking crack? There was no hardcore movement in the early 80s????Oh my god... You dont think SSD, Minor Threat, Jerrys Kids, Poison Idea, Wasted Youth were hardcore bands???? Are you an imbecile? What about Negative Approach - were they not a hardcore band?????[/QUOTE]
Yes, but to the people who listened to them and went to their shows, they were just punk bands. Bands like Judge and Gorilla Biscuits and Youth of Today started an actualy hardcore scene, which was not the same as the crowd that would be at shows of bands that you mentioned.

[QUOTE=SPLATTER PUNX]The hardcore movement was huge in the early 80s dude, and far more real. Ask anyone who was a part of it, and read the book "American Hardcore", and look at old issues of Maximum Rock N Roll, and you tell me that there was not the kind of hardcore movement in the early 80s. Were kids dressing like jocks then and doing karate on the dance floor - no. The shows were a hell of a lot more chaotic tho, and there was a massive - completely massive hardcore scene. You really sound like an ignorant little kid to say there was no no important hardcore movement in the 80s. Id like to see what bands like Gorilla Biscuits and Judge would say if you told them there was no real hardcore scene before them.[/QUOTE]

Again, learn how to understand what you read. I NEVER said there was NO hardcore scene in the early 80's. I said that the late 80's scene was DIFFERENT from the scene in the early 80's.

[QUOTE=A-Life-Less-Plagued]Yes, but to the people who listened to them and went to their shows, they were just punk bands. Bands like Judge and Gorilla Biscuits and Youth of Today started an actualy hardcore scene, which was not the same as the crowd that would be at shows of bands that you mentioned.[/QUOTE]

I was there dude. You have no idea what you are talking about even to the slightest degree. If you were referring to the jockish , karate kicking, champion sweatshirt wearing types who started coming around in the late 80s then you are correct. Those kids wouldnt hold a candle up to the nutcases that were at shows in the early 80s.

[QUOTE=SPLATTER PUNX]I was there dude. You have no idea what you are talking about even to the slightest degree. If you were referring to the jockish , karate kicking, champion sweatshirt wearing types who started coming around in the late 80s then you are correct. Those kids wouldnt hold a candle up to the nutcases that were at shows in the early 80s.[/QUOTE]Yeah bro, cause we know how much of pansies FSU are...you know, the guys who started wearing normal clothes to shows and dancing.

[QUOTE=shane italian]Yeah bro, cause we know how much of pansies FSU are...you know, the guys who started wearing normal clothes to shows and dancing.[/QUOTE]

The FSU guys were scary guys. Almost like a gang. There were lots of these "gangs" and a lot more of them prior to them in Boston and New York in particular BEFORE them. Watch some old videos of Negative Approach or Cro Mags shows from prior to 84 to see what Im talking about. Or in California you had the Suicidal "gangs" who followed around Suicidal Tendencies who were some of the scariest dudes you could possibly meet.

FSU show tomorrow and odds are I can't go.

[QUOTE=SPLATTER PUNX]The FSU guys were scary guys. Almost like a gang. There were lots of these "gangs" and a lot more of them prior to them in Boston and New York in particular BEFORE them. Watch some old videos of Negative Approach or Cro Mags shows from prior to 84 to see what Im talking about.[/QUOTE]Whatevs bro. You're cool in my book. We disagree, and you're most likely right. But I'm sticking to my story.

[QUOTE=shane italian]Whatevs bro. You're cool in my book. We disagree, and you're most likely right. But I'm sticking to my story.[/QUOTE]

Its just an interesting discussion is all that I see it as. Nothing wrong with a good debate once in a while. Keeps me young, and I am actually really happy to see this site and see how many people dig punk and hardcore today. Youre a good guy.

Your also cool because your name is a RoboCop referance (or a coincidence).

I didn't really like Terror too much before, but I've been listening to some of the new stuff and it's a lot better than I thought.

'bout time.

Monday. Sick Of It All. Terror. Hatebreed. Full Blown Chaos. No Warning. F[I]u[/I]cking. Awesome.

Terror rules, I wish like half the band didn't leave. The new album still rules. The new bassist sang when I saw them since Soctt had hurt his neck.

what do Outbreak sound like and how good are they?

Extremely good.

[QUOTE=Sk8SkaNJ]Terror rules, I wish like half the band didn't leave. The new album still rules. The new bassist sang when I saw them since Soctt had hurt his neck.[/QUOTE]The guy from First Blood?

Yeah, I don't know any of the First Blood guys' names.

[QUOTE=shane italian]The guy from First Blood?[/QUOTE]

No Shane, the other new bassist.

Hahaha

FACED!

If anybody cares, Full Blown Chaos are guests on Headbangers Ball tonight.

What channel? I check MTV2 and Fuse, neither looked like Headbangers Ball.

mtv2, its starting in like a minute

[QUOTE=40 oz 2 freedom]No Shane, the other new bassist.[/QUOTE]
Hahaha, that made me laugh.

F[size=2]U[/size]CK it's not on Canadian MTV2.

[QUOTE=40 oz 2 freedom]No Shane, the other new bassist.[/QUOTE]
I'd rep you if I could. :lol:

[QUOTE=NewKindofArmy03]mtv2, its starting in like a minute[/QUOTE]
Right now it's a bunch of people yelling about someone call another one a bitch. And there is some dumb chick just sitting there talking for no reason.

Wait, that show just ened.

Now it's something on Dimebag, Jamie Jasta is talking on the phone about him.

Ok, well tell me when the first good video is. I don't have a tv in this room.

Hah, k.

They just did a short segment on the shooting and now showing a Pantera video, so far no FBC.

Yeah, tell me when FBC comes on too. I need a TV in here, this sucks and i'm playing someone in a game and dont want to forfeit but i'm about to.

I have a TV in my room with MTV2. I rule.

You should split your cable line from your modem and just get a small TV, that's what I have.

[QUOTE=Sk8SkaNJ]You should split your cable line from your modem and just get a small TV, that's what I have.[/QUOTE]
thats smart.

Heh, free cable tv.

Cable doesn't come to my house, its too far into the boonies.

That sucks, Satalite or nothing?

or about 4 channels. CBC, Ch, global, ctv, Channel m, and thats it.

[QUOTE=Silvermedalmafia]thats smart.[/QUOTE]

AND illegal, mind you.