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Drum Monkey 06-12-2006 09:20 PM

[QUOTE=Futuro]Yeah I know Im right.[/QUOTE]
There you go so who cares.

-DM

Futuro 06-12-2006 09:28 PM

[QUOTE=drummonkey000]There you go so who cares.

-DM[/QUOTE]Me. Seriously, I hate when people say that they can play in 3/4 and 4/4.

UGH Makes them look like an idiot.

Drum Monkey 06-12-2006 09:30 PM

[QUOTE=Futuro]Me. Seriously, I hate when people say that they can play in 3/4 and 4/4.

UGH Makes them look like an idiot.[/QUOTE]
I know what you mean, after a while if they just keep rambling on, saying the same thing over and over and have no new fact based arguments for yours, I just tell them so.

-DM

Icky_Mettle 06-12-2006 09:40 PM

Wolfmother's pretty good. You WM fans need to check out Mody Lemon!


Doesn't the wolfmother drummer have big round badges? they sound sweet on all the albums.

PandaDrummer 06-12-2006 10:18 PM

I'm not a big fan of wolf mother, I did'nt like that song "woman"..unless they have bettter songs...that I just havn't heard yet

Futuro 06-12-2006 10:26 PM

[QUOTE=drummonkey000]I know what you mean, after a while if they just keep rambling on, saying the same thing over and over and have no new fact based arguments for yours, I just tell them so.

-DM[/QUOTE]No new facts huh? haha They have not had one fact correct yet.


Im finding it funny actually, the guy has 34,000+ posts and doesnt know basic theory. Me thinks he should spend less time on here and more time learning.

Josiah 06-12-2006 10:49 PM

So my dog likes to chase, swim after, capture and then kill ducks. Here's some shots from earlier today..

[url]http://josiahmicheletti.com/ozzyduck1.jpg[/url]
[url]http://josiahmicheletti.com/ozzyduck2.jpg[/url]
[url]http://josiahmicheletti.com/ozzyduck3.jpg[/url]

Futuro 06-12-2006 10:58 PM

[QUOTE=Josiah]So my dog likes to chase, swim after, capture and then kill ducks. Here's some shots from earlier today..

[url]http://josiahmicheletti.com/ozzyduck1.jpg[/url]
[url]http://josiahmicheletti.com/ozzyduck2.jpg[/url]
[url]http://josiahmicheletti.com/ozzyduck3.jpg[/url][/QUOTE]
Haha nice! Big dog :cool: I like big dogs.

Sunshine 06-12-2006 11:09 PM

My cat used to be the most retarded of cats.

Then he caught a mouse.

And 3 birds.

I'm afraid he's going to kill a bunny next =(

Maggot Dream 06-12-2006 11:50 PM

So I got back from Wakarusa today. For anyone who doesn't know, Wakarusa is a pretty good sized music festival consisting of like 80+ bands, mostly jambands, located in Kansas. Saw some great acts, but my favorites were Les Claypool, Bela Fleck and the Flecktones, and Buckethead, who owned completely. He was absolutely insane, really intense. By far my favorite of the whole thing. He's an amazing player.

So yeah, had an awesome 4 days, if anyone cares. It totally ruled.

Amit 06-13-2006 12:18 AM

[QUOTE=Futuro]Im finding it funny actually, the guy has 34,000+ posts and doesnt know basic theory. Me thinks he should spend less time on here and more time learning.[/QUOTE]

Hehe, I go [url=http://www.peabody.jhu.edu/]here[/url] for my music classes. I got a 5 on the AP Theory test and had the highest grades in all of my theory classes.

Yep, I sure don't know anything about theory :-\

At least I don't run off to a circlejerk community thread and cry like a little bitch :-)

Futuro 06-13-2006 12:26 AM

[QUOTE=Atman]Hehe, I go [url=http://www.peabody.jhu.edu/]here[/url] for my music classes. I got a 5 on the AP Theory test and had the highest grades in all of my theory classes.

Yep, I sure don't know anything about theory :-\

At least I don't run off to a circlejerk community thread and cry like a little bitch :-)[/QUOTE]
Oh I wasn't crying. But I was pointing out the fact that playing in multiple time signatures simultaneously does not work. I could care less who taught you otherwise.

Amit 06-13-2006 12:30 AM

Go tell that to Bartok, Glass, or even, Meshuggah :-\

Futuro 06-13-2006 12:35 AM

[QUOTE=Atman]Go tell that to Bartok, Glass, or even, Meshuggah :-\[/QUOTE]
Get it through your skull! You cannot play 2 time signatures simultaneuosly as a drummer.

Josiah 06-13-2006 12:36 AM

Could you please show us some actual written music, or perhaps even write some outyourself that uses this multiple time signature theory?



By the way, here's the dictionary deffinition of the term time signature, I'm sure you'll find it the same in your peabody texts -

[B]
time signature[/B]
[I]n.[/I] [U][I]Music[/I][/U] A sign placed on a staff to indicate the meter, commonly a numerical fraction of which the numerator is the number of beats per measure and the denominator represents the kind of note getting one beat.


Now how can you have 2 of those at the same time? Further more, if some of the greatest and most complex pieces of music we know of, can be written in a single time signature, as they are.. then again, how does this other theory work?

Are you saying messugah is more complex then Bach? Rachmaninoff?


Anyone who knows anything about music theory knows a simple truth, [I]anything[/I] can be written in the Key of C and in 4/4.

Amit 06-13-2006 12:42 AM

lmao bach and rachmaninoff are not some of the most complex pieces of music out there ahahahah

oh lord you guys crack me up

i just IM'd another excellent drummer i know and he said yes :-O

i'm not making this up honestly if you guys can prove me wrong i will gladly and immediately admit i was wrong

Futuro 06-13-2006 12:44 AM

[QUOTE=Atman][B]lmao bach and rachmaninoff are not some of the most complex pieces of music out there ahahahah[/B]

oh lord you guys crack me up

i just IM'd another excellent drummer i know and he said yes :-O[/QUOTE]You didnt see the point there Sluggo.


[QUOTE]i'm not making this up honestly if you guys can prove me wrong i will gladly and immediately admit i was wrong[/QUOTE]Your arguing with a dictionary and common sense damnit!

Amit 06-13-2006 12:45 AM

sorta like how you're ignoring my points fagturo ohhh look how clever i am

Seafroggys 06-13-2006 12:45 AM

Bach wrote the book on music theory dude.

Amit 06-13-2006 12:46 AM

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]Bach wrote the book on music theory dude.[/QUOTE]

actually he didn't

see: western ethnomusicology

Futuro 06-13-2006 12:47 AM

[QUOTE=Atman]sorta like how you're ignoring my points fagturo ohhh look how clever i am[/QUOTE]
He put the defintition up there Atman. If you cannot read it then that is not my fault.

Nice job on the fag into my name bro! Must have took you ages of arguing with literature books to make that one huh?!

Amit 06-13-2006 12:49 AM

[QUOTE=Futuro]He put the defintition up there Atman. If you cannot read it then that is not my fault.[/quote]

umm that doesn't address my point about polymeter

[QUOTE=Futuro]Nice job on the fag into my name bro! Must have took you ages of arguing with literature books to make that one huh?![/QUOTE]

oh man your sarcasm is harsh sort of like how you're taking the internets so seriously haha

Futuro 06-13-2006 12:50 AM

[QUOTE]umm that doesn't address my point about polymeter[/QUOTE]That is multiple people with multiple staffs! Jesus christ dude!

(*The Noonward Race*) 06-13-2006 12:50 AM

this argument is like being chased

by a used toilet paper roll

Seafroggys 06-13-2006 12:50 AM

Bach didn't develop western music theory, that's not what I meant. He didn't say "oh there are 12 semitones in an octave, and there are major and minor keys and a slew of modes" etc. That was developed earlier in the Catholic Church.

However, modern music theory courses are pretty much based off of what he wrote. Which is what I meant in my original statement.

Amit 06-13-2006 12:52 AM

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]Bach didn't develop western music theory, that's not what I meant. He didn't say "oh there are 12 semitones in an octave, and there are major and minor keys and a slew of modes" etc. That was developed earlier in the Catholic Church.

However, modern music theory courses are pretty much based off of what he wrote. Which is what I meant in my original statement.[/QUOTE]

yes

but it still doesn't make it anywhere near some of the most complex music out there

josiah could have talked about pendercki or stravinsky or something jeez

Futuro 06-13-2006 12:53 AM

[QUOTE=Atman]yes

but it still doesn't make it anywhere near some of the most complex music out there

josiah could have talked about pendercki or stravinsky or something jeez[/QUOTE]
You didnt get his point.

Amit 06-13-2006 12:53 AM

[QUOTE=Futuro]You didnt get his point.[/QUOTE]

what was it since apparently you have written publications on it

Josiah 06-13-2006 12:54 AM

Atman.. just show us a single piece of written music where multiple time signatures are used at the same time.

That's all, just one. Just show us one written piece, by ANY publication or company. Just one is all...


Just show us one piece of written music that displays your idea/theory... it shouldn't be hard to find many examples right? Your peabody texts are chalk full of em aren't they?


Until you can, I suggest you disregaurd your current position regaurding that theory.

I can point to a million publications on our side of the arugment, how many can you point to on yours?

Amit 06-13-2006 12:59 AM

[QUOTE=Josiah]Atman.. just show us a single piece of written music where multiple time signatures are used at the same time.

That's all, just one. Just show us one written piece, by ANY publication or company. Just one is all...


Until you can, I suggest you disregaurd your current position regaurding that theory.[/QUOTE]

ummmmm polymeter

did you ever learn about it in music school or what

i'll go look for sheet music but it'll take me a while unless of course you're willing to pay


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