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thickasabrick 01-26-2006 10:19 PM

My friend is two hours late picking me up. No one knows what the hell he does that makes him take so long...but I remember calling his house at 8:30 and his sister said he left already...and it's almost 10:30 now. It's a fifteen minute drive from his house to mine. He's at least two hours late every time he says he'll drive, and he always says he came straight over.

I did get to listen to all of Dust Bowl Ballads while I was waiting.

Broken Arrow 01-26-2006 10:24 PM

I just finished putting on all my music.

JonG I added all my Earlier GD Bootlegs there might only be about 8 because I only have the ones that are form '65-'71.

Blank 01-26-2006 11:29 PM

Ah man.
I've been going through a big Hendrix phase these days.
Eh....im starting to listen to alot of classic prog rock as well.
:D

BludgeonySteve 01-26-2006 11:33 PM

Classic prog is the best classic :). Yes, King Crimson, Emerson Lake and Palmer, Pink Floyd, Rush, Rush, The Doors, Genesis, Jethro Tull, Supertramp, etc.

Blank 01-26-2006 11:41 PM

Pink Floyd,the doors,rush and king crimson are probally my favorite prog bands :)

BludgeonySteve 01-27-2006 12:02 AM

Yes, I did say Rush twice on purpose.

Blank 01-27-2006 12:20 AM

Everybody in Rush is perfect at what they do.

Awesome band!:thumb:

Leper 01-27-2006 12:25 AM

This is the first time I've ever seen the Doors referred to as prog...

Blank 01-27-2006 12:28 AM

Well I wasn't gonna argue with him...I just went with the flow.

I've always thought they were psychedelic :-\

Leper 01-27-2006 12:37 AM

I always thought of them as psychadelic blues.

magicbus 01-27-2006 12:48 AM

To me, The Doors are just good psychadelic rock and roll. Not all of there songs are bluesy, but most of them have that influence. So I see what you mean.

NP: Radiohead stuff

Jacaranda 01-27-2006 12:49 AM

They have hardly any psychedelic music... and I will argue that to the death. I mean they have a song or two (The End... that’s all I got for now, oh and maybe, just maybe Light My Fire) but other then that they really don't have any psychedelic music mostly just Rock with blues mixed in. I mean think about it the music really isn't that strange... they don't experiment (Schyma is going to rip me a new one for that) much, they just took a flamenco guitar and a jazz drummer tossed in a drunk and a keyboard player for good measures (Not in that order though) and made in my opinion not that great of music, ya they have an album (song) or two where they showed promise but I think over all they didn't achieve any kind of greatness. Some people ranking Jim Morrison as a writer up there with the likes of Lennon and Dylan is ridiculous.
I just don't like Morrison much. :)

Rantage... my point is I don't see the Doors as psychedelic at all. I'd call them more of a blues soaked rock mixed with tinges of punk.
I'm sure many will disagree, but eh.

[QUOTE=RyanTheDrummer]I can't stand the doors song Peace Frog to be honest...[/QUOTE]

Heh, one of the few I like.

Blank 01-27-2006 12:53 AM

I can't stand the doors song Peace Frog to be honest...

magicbus 01-27-2006 01:09 AM

[QUOTE=Jacaranda] Some people ranking Jim Morrison as a writer up there with the likes of Lennon and Dylan is ridiculous.[/QUOTE]

He might have not been a songwriter like them, but his lyrics were just like poetry. How's that rediculous?

NP: I Ain't Superstitious - Howlin' Wolf

gmoneyguy 01-27-2006 01:12 AM

Robby Krieger is definately under rated as a guitarist.

I never heard anything in Robby that sounds like flaminco guitar, but definately blues.

Leper 01-27-2006 01:13 AM

Punk? No. When the Music's over, Strange Days, and People are Strange all have slightly psychadelic feels to them. I would say the Unknown Soldier has a very psychadelic feel to it as well.

Don't experiment?...How about the usage of brass and strings in Touch Me? You don't call that experimental?

Jacaranda 01-27-2006 01:15 AM

[QUOTE=magicbus]He might have not been a songwriter like them, but his lyrics were just like poetry. How's that rediculous?

NP: I Ain't Superstitious - Howlin' Wolf[/QUOTE]
Ride the snake, ride the snake
To the lake, the ancient lake, baby
The snake is long, seven miles
Ride the snake...he's old, and his skin is cold
:rolleyes:

I dunno I just don't think he is anything to rave about. His lyrics don't really move me, he seems like he went out of his way to write "deep" poetry, he just wanted his name to be famous.
:)

[QUOTE]Punk? No. When the Music's over, Strange Days, and People are Strange all have slightly psychadelic feels to them. I would say the Unknown Soldier has a very psychadelic feel to it as well.

Don't experiment?...How about the usage of brass and strings in Touch Me? You don't call that experimental?[/QUOTE]
You don't think the Doors have a hint of what was to come to music in the 70's? You don't see a hint of punk at all? Break on Through... no punk feel to it. Not Sex Pistols punk but Fu[I]c[/I]k Everybody type of punk. Its all in the lyrics.... (gak.)
Experiment? Its nothing Mozart (side note its his like 250th birthday[?]) or even the Beatles didn't do earlier.

gmoneyguy 01-27-2006 01:17 AM

[QUOTE=Jacaranda]Ride the snake, ride the snake
To the lake, the ancient lake, baby
The snake is long, seven miles
Ride the snake...he's old, and his skin is cold
:rolleyes:

I dunno I just don't think he is anything to rave about. His lyrics don't really move me, he seems like he went out of his way to write "deep" poetry, he just wanted his name to be famous.
:)[/QUOTE]
You have to understand what they stood for in the times to really appreciate his lyrics.

Blank 01-27-2006 01:18 AM

To tell the truth...how hard would it have been for the doors to find a bassist?

gmoneyguy 01-27-2006 01:19 AM

[QUOTE=RyanTheDrummer]To tell the truth...how hard would it have been for the doors to find a bassist?[/QUOTE]
Im geussing not hard, but I don't really know their whole back story.

Jacaranda 01-27-2006 01:25 AM

They had a bass player for Soft Parade I know, and I think maybe another album.

Blank 01-27-2006 01:26 AM

Yeah they used a session bassist.But they didn't have a touring bassist...
What's the deal with that?

gmoneyguy 01-27-2006 01:26 AM

They relly didn't need a bassist, seeing how the keys were holding the melodies.

Jacaranda 01-27-2006 01:28 AM

Their sound would've improved greatly if they had a bassist, a bassits' opinion though.

Leper 01-27-2006 01:28 AM

[QUOTE=Jacaranda]

Experiment? Its nothing Mozart (side note its his like 250th birthday[?]) or even the Beatles didn't do earlier.[/QUOTE]

Just because it wasn't completely original doesn't mean it was experimental. You can't compare a band to someone else when talking about experimentation. You have to look at what that band was doing up to that time to measure how experimental they were.

gmoneyguy 01-27-2006 01:31 AM

[QUOTE=Jacaranda]Their sound would've improved greatly if they had a bassist, a bassits' opinion though.[/QUOTE]
Chances are the Bass would hold the root, adn see that as being much of an improvement. /complete speculation

Blank 01-27-2006 01:39 AM

Bass is always nice.
Bass can make anything sound better imo.

BlackDeathMetalJazz or really ANYTHING else please- 01-27-2006 12:06 PM

You know some people consider [I]Piper at the Gates of Dawn[/I] to be the very first Prog album ever? I'm still debating with myself on weither or not this is correct or not.[QUOTE]Schyma is going to rip me a new one for that[/QUOTE]Not really...you don't like Blues or Jazz, you think Rolling Stones are greater than the Beatles, you listen to 90's pop...etc your opinion really just has no value to me. Why argue? :p

thickasabrick 01-27-2006 12:08 PM

Touch Me was also the first song with a jazz solo to like make it to the Top 10 pop charts...or something along those lines.

edit - Syd era was not prog at all in my opinion. But everyone has their own definition of prog. I don't even think the Waters era was really prog.

Jacaranda 01-27-2006 12:12 PM

[QUOTE=Schyma]You know some people consider [I]Piper at the Gates of Dawn[/I] to be the very first Prog album ever? I'm still debating with myself on weither or not this is correct or not.[/QUOTE]
I think I'll stick with In the Court of the Crimson King for this one... I'm not sure I would call PATGOD progressive enough to have me label it as the first prog album.

Anyone else not have school today? It ended up working perfectly because its my friends birthday I reckon, the plan is for him to come over we jam for awhile then I third wheel it with his girlfriend. Hopefully I'll be able to force him to play some U2 and Joy Division.

[QUOTE]Not really...you don't like Blues or Jazz, you think Rolling Stones are greater than the Beatles, you listen to 90's pop...etc your opinion really just has no value to me. Why argue? [/QUOTE]
:upset:
Haven't seen you around lately, Schyma where you been?

barrett420 01-27-2006 12:14 PM

Schyma get to work.

thickasabrick 01-27-2006 12:22 PM

[QUOTE=barrett420]Schyma get to work.[/QUOTE]

I haven't seen you around lately. Hows it going?

The Doors used a studio bassist for all their albums after their first one. When they played live, Ray had like an extra bass keyboard type thing on top of his organ...it basically sounds exactly like a bass, but it's a little too mechanical sounding and it can't do bends/slaps etc so it was a little limiting.

Leper 01-27-2006 02:37 PM

PATGOD definitely isn't prog IMO. I always thought of it as Floyd's only psychadelic album.

zepplin666_led 01-27-2006 02:40 PM

i hate U2, i just straight out despise them, Bono makes me want to stick a knife in someones throat.

Doors-not prog, they definetely have a bit of pshysedelic in them.

first prog? probbably In The Court.

EDIT: oh ****, i remeber my Welcome... password.

thickasabrick 01-27-2006 02:57 PM

[QUOTE=leppermessiah]PATGOD definitely isn't prog IMO. I always thought of it as Floyd's only psychadelic album.[/QUOTE]

I think Saucerful of Secrets is psychedelic too.

I stole a book today....it was the first time I've ever actually stolen anything of worth. It was Malcom X's book, By All Means Necessary. I slipped it in my inside jacket pocket then casually walked out of the store, stopping to look at a second-hand microwave on the way out heh heh...then I turned around the corner and ran for my life!

Britton 01-27-2006 03:00 PM

[QUOTE=thickasabrick]I think Saucerful of Secrets is psychedelic too.

I stole a book today....it was the first time I've ever actually stolen anything of worth. It was Malcom X's book, By All Means Necessary. I slipped it in my inside jacket pocket then casually walked out of the store, stopping to look at a second-hand microwave on the way out heh heh...then I turned around the corner and ran for my life![/QUOTE]


Saucerfull of secrets is there most psychadelic album in my opinion.

How much was this book worth?

Leper 01-27-2006 03:02 PM

I used to like U2 but lately everytime Bono has opened his mouth I've heard nothing but ignorance and arrogance come out.

Britton 01-27-2006 03:04 PM

[QUOTE=leppermessiah]I used to like U2 but lately everytime Bono has opened his mouth I've heard nothing but ignorance and arrogance come out.[/QUOTE]

Like what?

Leper 01-27-2006 03:12 PM

Ah dammit why'd you have to ask that? I can't think of anything right now...oh wait! I heard that not too long ago he got mad because someone else took credit for inventing the mullet, which he thought he should get credit for. Not really ignorant or arrogant, but more just plain stupidity there. Who would want to take credit for such a disaster?

MidnightRider 01-27-2006 03:13 PM

U2 has just never seemed that interesting to me, I can never get into their songs. My parents love them though.

And I know I'm late on this topic, but I think PATGOD definitely has progressive elements.


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