Hey guys, im thinking of looking into some aux hi hat, small ones with great control and response for funky playing. Suggestions?

Take 2 12 inch splashes and there you go.
Sounds cool.
DO IT DAMN YOU.

Zildjian A 12" Special Recording hats.

[QUOTE=stevensonmat2;14482317]Hey guys, im thinking of looking into some aux hi hat, small ones with great control and response for funky playing. Suggestions?[/QUOTE]

What Meaningless photo said, also:

Are you looking for crisp-type funky? If so check out some 13" A custom (mastersounds for a better response IMO), or look into Sabian HH or Zildjian K hihats in 13" for a warmer/darker type funky sound.

[QUOTE=fishbulb;14478549]K Custom Dry?[/QUOTE]

That's a good suggestion, only thing is, I have that ride and find that although dry, it also tends to get lost under other instruments quite easily as not only is it dark/warm but also very quiet and can't really get all that loud very easily. The wash is small, but is certainly warm I would say. Look into other K custom cymbals? Maybe a K Custom Hybrid (though that might have more wash than you want), or even a K Heavy Ride (though I haven't heard one in ages so it might not fit what you want.)

Hope that's kinda helpful :chug:

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I have a question of my own:

I'm looking for a splash for my kit, for pretty much playing anything and everything, perhaps not jazz, but pop, rock, funk, RnB (not the modern electronic type sh!t etc), heavy rock, punk, possibly metal. I'm guessing I would get something middle-ish that would be ideal for rock/pop but would also work OK for the heavier and lighter stuff.

So yeah, suggestions would be wicked, plus rep (once I can give some more out).

Maybe an A Custom/AAX/Byzance?

I wouldnt go A custom, but instead I would go A. They are very versitile. A custom do have some nice splashes though.

[quote=Ollie The Drumming Legend;14484282]That's a good suggestion, only thing is, I have that ride and find that although dry, it also tends to get lost under other instruments quite easily as not only is it dark/warm but also very quiet and can't really get all that loud very easily. The wash is small, but is certainly warm I would say. Look into other K custom cymbals? Maybe a K Custom Hybrid (though that might have more wash than you want), or even a K Heavy Ride (though I haven't heard one in ages so it might not fit what you want.)

Hope that's kinda helpful :chug:
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Cool, cool. Thanks for the description man. It was very helpful.

[QUOTE=Drum Phil;14484628]Maybe an A Custom/AAX/Byzance?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MeaninglessPhoto;14484697]I wouldnt go A custom, but instead I would go A. They are very versitile. A custom do have some nice splashes though.[/QUOTE]

Thanks, I'll look into them.

What do you guys think of the K custom hybrid splash, and also the Oriental trash splashes?


BTW Meaningless Photo, if you wanna hear a K custom dry ride in music, go to [url]http://www.myspace.com/eightmtm[/url], listen to the song "Lost", that is the ride there in the chorus. It sounds good, but bear in mind that a.) the song is mixed very wierdly/not well and b.) It is not usually as prominent compared to the other instruments as it is in the recording, i.e. live/in my living room where we practise. Nonetheless it sounds amazing when you can hear it, esp. me practising alone I don't get overwhelmed by volume or wash when there is no band to drown it out.

The K Custom splashes are dry and dark but still have some volume and trash splashes are similar but with the trashy characteristic. Cool splashes but I wouldnt say they are great in louder situations, more for low to medium volumes or for accents.

[QUOTE=MeaninglessPhoto;14484697]I wouldnt go A custom, but instead I would go A. They are very versitile. A custom do have some nice splashes though.[/QUOTE]

eww at Avedis splashes.
i cant stand their sound. it is just so... gross.

A customs on the other hand...

I've found a 10" AAX splash for £45 or an 8" for £40 second hand. I'm going to check these out later today, but do you reckon they'd be suitable-ish?

Also I'm going to look at a 16/17/18" HH medium thin crash - thoughts?

The guy also has a 12" AAX mini china, 18" A china low, 18" A custom china, and a 20" oriental china trash, all for way below what you would otherwise pay. Any ideas about these? I have about £135 - £160 to spend, which is roughly 1 crash at £85-95 + 1 splash at £40 - £45, with the chinas costing less than the crashes but more than the splashes (even the big 20" oriental for some reason).

So yeah, what do y'all reckon/

[QUOTE=LedZeppelin1307;14486015]eww at Avedis splashes.
i cant stand their sound. it is just so... gross.

A customs on the other hand...[/QUOTE]

please, Avedis splashes are incredible

Indeed. The 12"=SEX

[QUOTE=Zildjian;14489176]please, Avedis splashes are incredible[/QUOTE]

i disagree completely.

there is one on my drumset at school that i play in jazz band.
it is teh gross.

what do you guys think would be a better crash set up (which of these compliment best)

all cymbals paiste:
16 signature full, 17 signature full, 18 signature full
or
16 signature full, 17 signature full, 18 signature power
or
16 signature full, 17 signature power, 18 signature power
or
do none of these choices sound very good.

( You can listen to samples of these cymbals at paiste’s website: [url]http://www.paiste.com/products/cymbals/signature_crashes.php[/url] )

Try em out in person, and try mixin them with different lines/dif companies.

I LOVE full crashes but there ya go

i wish i could try them out in person, but they dont have anywhere in town that sells paiste, thats partially why im asking

Well tbh i'd never buy a cymbal without hearin it first (in person obviously) and on here to be fair you cna get VERY mixed responses on equipment.

What sound you goin for, what styles of music you play etc.

Thats helps

what i was really wondering is if any of the previously mentioned setups sounded good together, i dont want to have something like a setup of z customs with a k custom in it, because some such stuff just dosent jive together

All Paistes sound the same.



And they're very accurate to the website clips.




I'd go for the full/full/full.

i thought that the full/full/full combo would be very even and work well together, that they might sound all the same, but i wasnt sure that there was enough variety, hince the power crashes in the other setups (to be honest i thought that that might be to big of leap between cymbals), thanx for the advice, other opinions are welcome

They're very similar, but still very diverse and share a wide enough range.




As in it'll sound like 3 completely different cymbals.








Also, you could do full/fast/full.

Yeah i'd probably go power/full/fast

Bigger cymbals take more power to move so you really want them to be the thinnest.

[QUOTE=Drum Phil;14491114]Yeah i'd probably go power/full/fast

Bigger cymbals take more power to move so you really want them to be the thinnest.[/QUOTE]

Also you could look at other brands if you wanted more variety. I have a Sabian HH medium thin crash with a Zildjian A custom crash and they go amazingly together, despite one being quite warm/dark and one being bright. personally I've never played Paistes except some of the beginner ones, and their sound clips on the website download themselves as mp3s in media player or whatever, which is a pain, plus I find their site hard to navigate, so I've never had any Paiste experience.

BTW it would really help if you said what sort of sound you're looking for, what sort of situations you're going to be playing which sorts of music in, etc.

Interesting.

I have a Zildjian K Custom fast crash (Thin) and an AAXplosion (Medium-Thin) and they go very well together despite one being quick, warm and dark and one being explosive and bright.

[QUOTE=Drum Phil;14492098]Interesting.

I have a Zildjian K Custom fast crash (Thin) and an AAXplosion (Medium-Thin) and they go very well together despite one being quick, warm and dark and one being explosive and bright.[/QUOTE]

Hmmm that is interesting - I was actually looking at a K Custom Fast Crash before I found they were very expensive and the HH was quite similar and scond hand :)

I want the longest sustaining, nastiest sounding china out there.

Suggestions?

22" Oriental china trash? 22" Oriental classic china? 27" Saluda voodoo china?

Generally I find the trashier something is the shorter its sustain is. I say the biggest oriental classic china you can find, as they sustain a lot more than the china trash but are still very trashy.

19" Paragon China

Actually, TBH, the 20" Paragon has a longer sustain than the 19".

should i get the 18" K CRASH RIDE or the 24" K LIGHT RIDE or the 18''Zildjian A Series Crash Ride Cymbal

links for sound clips:
[url]http://zildjian.com/en-US/products/productDetail.ad2?catalogID=1009&typeID=9&productID=1412[/url]

[url]http://zildjian.com/EN-US/products/productDetail.ad2?ProductID=2286[/url]

[url]http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Zildjian-A-Series-Crash-Ride?sku=443832[/url]

24'' Rides are overkill.

Between those two, I'd go for the 18'' K, just because Crash/Ride's are great, although I would suggest a 18'' Istanbul Agop Mel Lewis 1982 Crash/Ride.

If you want a good ride and crash, then get the 24". 18" rides are sh[I]i[/I]t TBH.

[QUOTE=MeaninglessPhoto;14565137] 18" rides are sh[I]i[/I]t TBH.[/QUOTE]

Agreed.

Don't even mention crash/rides either.

ok ill prolly get the k.

Opinions on A Custom Projection Crashes? More specifically, the 16 and 17?

They're far too abrasive for my liking.

The AAXPlosion is the same weight and much nicer.

I dont like projection crashes. They sound aweful IMO


-Ant-