im not saying that's the reason they re-recorded it; i'm just saying they must think it's good enough to be meshed in with their current material. i've thought it was their best since hearing it like over a year ago.

Architects would like to re-record their best song but I think they've forgotten how to play their instruments since Nightmares

[QUOTE=hXcPLISIT;17761499]Architects would like to re-record their best song but I think they've forgotten how to play their instruments since Nightmares[/QUOTE]

prepare for even more disagreement with Mappy

The one thing that has always impressed me about the Metalcore thread is that the majority agrees Nightmares is their best album, even noobs like hxcplisit grasp that.

I love all their albums, but Hollow Crown is my go to album of theirs.

[QUOTE=HighandDriving;17761518]The one thing that has always impressed me about the Metalcore thread is that the majority agrees Nightmares is their best album, even noobs like hxcplisit grasp that.[/QUOTE]

im not a noob you asshat!1!

[QUOTE=hXcPLISIT;17761492]awful production and stupid-sounding drums, coupled with the bland boring vocals and talentless guitars[/quote]
I agree with the production, but the album isn't over-all bad.

I missed the part about In Shoals, don't like that album.

Transmetropolitan is the ****.

Define talentless guitars and bland vocals though, cause those are some pretty arbitrary criticisms.

[quote]whats their best song if Uptown Girl isn't? why'd they choose to re-record it just recently?[/QUOTE]
I'm more about Heyyyy Let's Start A Band tbh.

[QUOTE=HighandDriving;17761518]The one thing that has always impressed me about the Metalcore thread is that the majority agrees Nightmares is their best album, even noobs like hxcplisit grasp that.[/QUOTE]

Ruin has better vocals and production, and more varied song structure, therefor I like it more.

Plus some of the technical riffs on that album are just like, wait... how is a tech riff that catchy?

fu[I]ck[/I] Ruin.

Where's the [I]Rain in Endless Fall[/I] talk?

What's wrong with Ruin? :lol:

Rain In Endless Fall is ill, I've grown to like Undying more than PFC as far as melodic death-y pre-BTBAM bands go.

They have mad fun hardcore parts.

Nothing except, the production is a bit stale, and if Matt Bayles produced it like O'God, it would've came out better. Nightmares has more memorable riffs, the only riffs I can really remember from Ruin is Buried at Sea and that dirty riff from I Can't See The Light. Also Nightmares doesn't have the terrible cleans, actually when Matt does he's cleans they sound fuc king awesome. That clean break in Hanging Us Tonight is elite, Sam could never pull something similar off. Both vocals sound kinda same-y but Matt sounds down right sinister sometimes while Sam sounds like a robot.

I could keep spewing **** but basically though I like Nightmares more than Ruin by a somewhat small margin. It's just Sam kinda Ruins it for me.

lol Ruins it.

[QUOTE=HighandDriving;17762053]Nothing except, the production is a bit stale, and if Matt Bayles produced it like O'God, it would've came out better. Nightmares has more memorable riffs, the only riffs I can really remember from Ruin is Buried at Sea and that dirty riff from I Can't See The Light. Also Nightmares doesn't have the terrible cleans, actually when Matt does he's cleans they sound fuc king awesome. That clean break in Hanging Us Tonight is elite, Sam could never pull something similar off. Both vocals sound kinda same-y but Matt sounds down right sinister sometimes while Sam sounds like a robot.

I could keep spewing **** but basically though I like Nightmares more than Ruin by a somewhat small margin. It's just Sam kinda Ruins it for me.[/QUOTE]

Remember when everyone was like, wtf are you talking about with Sam's vocals.

Yeah.

He varies his **** mad a lot on Ruin lol.

It just sounds like you don't listen to Ruin enough.

Heartless, Hunt Them Down, I Can't See The Light, Low, Running From The Sun, and Save Me are all epic songs. Always and You'll Find Safety are the only songs on Ruin that I don't really like.

And I like Sam's clean singing, Matt's cleans aren't actually very good (technically speaking) but they're cool.

Matt's cleans are a bit bad if you ask me.

I love all Nightmares and Ruin (you'll find safety and always are sick mappy wtf).

Hollow Crown is a bit meh in places but there is some mad catchy and tech riffs to be enjoyed on that album fo sho.

Hollow Crown definitely grew on me recently.

And IDK man, those two songs are just bland to me for some reason.

[QUOTE=witchxrapist;17762195]Hollow Crown definitely grew on me recently.

And IDK man, those two songs are just bland to me for some reason.[/QUOTE]

see them live, then you'll stop being a fag.

I think Nightmares is the better album, but I feel Ruin has an overall better sound. Something about the production on Nightmares is constricting, or suffocating maybe - it feels compressed somehow.

As for the writing - Ruin is dank, but it's no Nightmares.

[QUOTE=Apoc;17763138] Something about the production on Nightmares is constricting, or suffocating maybe - it feels compressed somehow.
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yeah i find that usually happens with earlier recordings. I don't know whether it's cheaper production/recording, or the label being stingy etc.

If they re-record Nightmares, it'd be sick.

This thread sucks anymore, all you fags talk about is Architects.

THIS THREAD SUX N E MORE

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