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blockhead 05-20-2012 11:08 PM

[QUOTE=illmitch;18873703]whats weird about wanting to fit in, thats a pretty natural human desire

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfy9ZqKUJjU[/url][/QUOTE]

i wanna be stereotyped
i wanna be classified

blockhead 05-20-2012 11:09 PM

[QUOTE=adbforever;18873706]how

it's pretty obvious the people who will have normal lives here

they'll get married, have issues with their spouse, possibly divorce, possibly be in debt

you know, typical amurika[/QUOTE]

what makes you think my life won't be normal

robertsona 05-20-2012 11:09 PM

youd be surprised adb

i might [I]go bananas[/I]

illmitch 05-20-2012 11:10 PM

god, adbs outlook on life is so depressing

NEEDTOPOST 05-20-2012 11:10 PM

[QUOTE=robertsona;18873704]needtopost i saw that gaston bachelard book you like at a barnes and noble and flipped thru it but didnt get it because fuck but it looked cool

have you read swanns way, i feel like it sort of shoots for that same aesthetic. the intro to the book is unbelievable imo, altho thats maybe only cuz im not well versed in this type of stuff[/QUOTE]

no i haven't but it would make sense, bachelard and proust were both very conscious about their modernist intentions

i.e. pursuing pure aesthetic, making the prose the object itself, trying their best to forgo allusion, articulating imagination. it's kinda hard to say that bachelard was pursuing [I]an[/I] aesthetic cuz he was deliberately observing certain trends in aesthetics - that is, differentiating his perspective from the object - but it's definitely incidental. poetics of space is good enough just for its selection of excerpts

read it, i have it sitting next to me. also read [I]the dehumanization of art[/I]

MalleusMaleficarum 05-20-2012 11:11 PM

i know how your life will turn out because demographics

adbforever 05-20-2012 11:11 PM

[QUOTE=blockhead;18873708]what makes you think my life won't be normal[/QUOTE]

ur a rebel against society

adbforever 05-20-2012 11:12 PM

[QUOTE]youd be surprised adb

i might [I]go bananas[/I][/QUOTE]

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/sN2Je.jpg[/IMG]

robertsona 05-20-2012 11:13 PM

[QUOTE=NEEDTOPOST;18873711]it's kinda hard to say that bachelard was pursuing [I]an[/I] aesthetic cuz he was deliberately observing certain trends in aesthetics, but it's incidental
[/QUOTE]

yeah i was about to say that; bachelard's is maybe more of a literary observation of what people like proust do with their writing? i will definitely read it because i find that approach to art incredibly fascinating but simultaneously feel not at all like ive even scratched the surface

blockhead 05-20-2012 11:13 PM

if adb wrote a book it would be a poorly written jude the obscure

NEEDTOPOST 05-20-2012 11:13 PM

and read michel tournier

i'm working my way to proust and excited about it, i'm bogged down with non-fiction for work atm

blockhead 05-20-2012 11:14 PM

[QUOTE=adbforever;18873714]ur a rebel against society[/QUOTE]

what are you talking about

illmitch 05-20-2012 11:14 PM

been rereading lord of the rings

series is still super awesome tbh

MalleusMaleficarum 05-20-2012 11:14 PM

[QUOTE=blockhead;18873719]what are you talking about[/QUOTE]

:lol:

robertsona 05-20-2012 11:15 PM

[QUOTE=NEEDTOPOST;18873718]and read michel tournier

i'm working my way to proust and excited about it, i'm bogged down with non-fiction for work atm[/QUOTE]

take a second to read just the very first few paras of the Combray section, when you have the time

get yoself tantalized

i dont mean to turn this into a name dropping session (god forbid) but you should read w.g. sebald too i think

shortz 05-20-2012 11:16 PM

[QUOTE=illmitch;18873710]god, adbs outlook on life is so depressing[/QUOTE]

No man, it's [I]realistic[/I]

adbforever 05-20-2012 11:16 PM

[QUOTE=blockhead;18873719]what are you talking about[/QUOTE]

umm u listen 2 punk rock, do drugz, hate authority

adbforever 05-20-2012 11:16 PM

and I wouldn't write a book, too much tl;dr

i would write a list mayb

NEEDTOPOST 05-20-2012 11:16 PM

[QUOTE=robertsona;18873716]yeah i was about to say that; bachelard's is maybe more of a literary observation of what people like proust do with their writing? i will definitely read it because i find that approach to art incredibly fascinating but simultaneously feel not at all like ive even scratched the surface[/QUOTE]

well the referents are necessary literary but the crazy and beautiful thing about the book is the implicit and fundamental relevance to just being human, very nonchalantly but profoundly psychological

it is so so beautiful

illmitch 05-20-2012 11:18 PM

[QUOTE=adbforever;18873726]and I wouldn't write a book, too much tl;dr

i would write a list mayb[/QUOTE]

[IMG]http://images.quickblogcast.com/8/3/1/4/7/184722-174138/smh2.gif[/IMG]

adbforever 05-20-2012 11:19 PM

o wait I have a blog

NEEDTOPOST 05-20-2012 11:22 PM

[QUOTE=robertsona;18873722]take a second to read just the very first few paras of the Combray section, when you have the time

get yoself tantalized

i dont mean to turn this into a name dropping session (god forbid) but you should read w.g. sebald too i think[/QUOTE]

which translation do you read

i am always so nervous with translated books, i know they're all decent enough but it's just such a weird thing to me - reading a fucking book like swann's way [I]in translation[/I]

illmitch 05-20-2012 11:23 PM

[QUOTE=NEEDTOPOST;18873733]which translation do you read

i am always so nervous with translated books, i know they're all decent enough but it's just such a weird thing to me - reading a fucking book like swann's way [I]in translation[/I][/QUOTE]

i know what you mean tbh

robertsona 05-20-2012 11:25 PM

[QUOTE=NEEDTOPOST;18873733]which translation do you read

i am always so nervous with translated books, i know they're all decent enough but it's just such a weird thing to me - reading a fucking book like swann's way in translation[/QUOTE]

dude, totally. i have the modern library edition, which is a reworking by terence martin of c.k. moncrieff's translation. i really have no idea, but it seems like a good translation to me, but maybe that's just because i'm taking all of the translation at face value. in the first paragraph there's this weird translation of "go to bed" (or that's what i think it should be) as "look for sleep" which sort of freaked me out but otherwise it seems very good

so

take from that what you will; the only other translation i saw in bookstores was one by Lydia Scott

blockhead 05-20-2012 11:27 PM

[QUOTE=adbforever;18873726]and I wouldn't write a book, too much tl;dr

i would write a list mayb[/QUOTE]

:lol:

robertsona 05-20-2012 11:29 PM

oh also one last thing before i go to bed, needtopost i very highly recommend the album, on similar premises, "an empty bliss beyond this world" by the caretaker

NEEDTOPOST 05-20-2012 11:35 PM

cheers

"look for sleep" was probably a deliberate thing, it's very different from go to bed. even if it's just idiomatic (with a name like moncrieff, i assume french is his primary), it's a more interesting way to look at the act and that's why reading and writing are so awesome!

adbforever 05-20-2012 11:38 PM

:lol:

NEEDTOPOST 05-20-2012 11:58 PM

could write a pretty slick passage on this

adb laughing at an object in his mind insubstantially associated with an object outside his mind created by a mind far from his own, and never the triplex shall meet

NEEDTOPOST 05-20-2012 11:59 PM

which is to say the thing you see is not the thing to which you point


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