[QUOTE=witchxrapist;17752234]texas in july's new album's alright, if you want august burns red worship

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yeah and less talented.

That's a stupid argument for why you should and shouldn't like something.

And they're on par with ABR (skillwise) when Thirll Seeker came out so whatever.

talent is a good argument

That's a feat.

[QUOTE=Pete;17752261]talent is a good argument[/QUOTE]

They write catchy songs, who cares if they can't play their instruments as well.

then theyre talented songwriters

[QUOTE=HighandDriving;17752262]That's a feat.[/QUOTE]

sure smells liek it

[QUOTE=witchxrapist;17752234]texas in july's new album's alright, if you want august burns red worship
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i found a couple bands that are full of ABR worship that are decent. [I]Walking With Strangers[/I] and another band who's name for some reason i cant remember, but i have the link for their album on my laptop

Word. Within The Ruins is the best ABR worship band, but that's because they do their own thing too.

[QUOTE=witchxrapist;17752249]That's a stupid argument for why you should and shouldn't like something.

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Lol? Talent is a stupid argument for why I shouldn't like them?

I hope that was a shitty attempt at trolling.

he can't help himself phil

within the ruins are pretty cool dudes

[QUOTE=phil_ares;17752563]Lol? Talent is a stupid argument for why I shouldn't like them?

I hope that was a poopty attempt at trolling.[/QUOTE]

no seriously, how do you measure how much more talented one band is than another?

and its like, august burns red is more technically proficient maybe, but its still a dumb reason to dislike a band

anyway, texas in july's first album is a lot better than their new one

kind of lame that they never came to allentown until they got signed, it wouldve been cool to play shows in shitty small venues with them

how do you measure how much more talented one band is than another?

I guess the only way to judge a bands talent is how proficient they're on their releases and live shows but even that's hard to judge cause great musicians don't necessary perform to show off how complex their song writing abilities are.

Still that said Dave of Botch (ya ya) is a much more talented guitarist then almost every metalcore guitarist (even kurt). Show me a song as complex and brutal as Transitions From Persona To Object, which is probably the best metalcore song ever written. He was probably the same age if not younger than the ABR boys. And after he was done slaying in the metalcore realm he kills it in a indie band.

Whatever I'm going off on a tangent but ya Dave is probably my favourite guitarist.

yeah man wouldnt it be awesome to suck his d

Seriously.

Listening to TEOAT's debut album again.

Would be so much better if the vocals were different.

Best guitarist ever is Wil Killingsworth, Orchid, Wolves, Bucket Full Of Teeth, and Ampere are all 100% win.

Wil Killingsworth is def one of the best screamo guitarist, though I'd say Josh Jakubowski (Hot Cross, Joshua Fit for Battle, Neil Perry) is better.

[QUOTE=HighandDriving;17752873]how do you measure how much more talented one band is than another?

I guess the only way to judge a bands talent is how proficient they're on their releases and live shows but even that's hard to judge cause great musicians don't necessary perform to show off how complex their song writing abilities are.

Still that said Dave of Botch (ya ya) is a much more talented guitarist then almost every metalcore guitarist (even kurt). Show me a song as complex and brutal as Transitions From Persona To Object, which is probably the best metalcore song ever written. He was probably the same age if not younger than the ABR boys. And after he was done slaying in the metalcore realm he kills it in a indie band.

Whatever I'm going off on a tangent but ya Dave is probably my favourite guitarist.[/QUOTE]

Page turn for the truth.

[QUOTE=HighandDriving;17753607]Wil Killingsworth is def one of the best screamo guitarist, though I'd say Josh Jakubowski (Hot Cross, Joshua Fit for Battle, Neil Perry) is better.[/QUOTE]

i like what wil writes betterer

also doods from envy