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mappyxmassacre 11-09-2009 02:54 PM

It makes you a cretin bro.

whiteminority 11-09-2009 03:09 PM

i don't think stealing from wal-mart is unethical or cretin-esque. they rule for general thievery.

flesh 11-09-2009 03:42 PM

when i smoke and get the munchies, i usually go to wal-mart and raid pringles.

Aaron 11-09-2009 03:57 PM

lol @ taking the moral highground in relation to food, then condoning illegal activities.

IgniteYourAvail 11-09-2009 03:58 PM

Like how people get more pissed when people kill dogs than people (See: Michael Vick)

flesh 11-09-2009 04:18 PM

[QUOTE=Aaron;17632002]lol @ taking the moral highground in relation to food, then condoning illegal activities.[/QUOTE]
illegal doesn't mean "wrong". i dont see anything wrong with a starving person stealing a loaf of bread. i definitely don't see anything wrong with stealing $5 worth of food from a corporation that makes millions.

whiteminority 11-09-2009 04:21 PM

[QUOTE=flesh;17632046]illegal doesn't mean "wrong". i dont see anything wrong with a starving person stealing a loaf of bread. i definitely don't see anything wrong with stealing $5 worth of food from a corporation that makes millions.[/QUOTE]
this.

Jaundice 11-09-2009 04:36 PM

[QUOTE=IgniteYourAvail;17632003]Like how people get more pissed when people kill dogs than people (See: Michael Vick)[/QUOTE]

More than half the population is like this, it annoys the **** out of me

stealing is never wrong

NortherlyNanook 11-09-2009 04:42 PM

[QUOTE=Jaundice;17632087]stealing is never wrong[/QUOTE]

huh

whitesquares 11-09-2009 05:58 PM

I'm not sure if you can look at stealing or killing as something you can "never" do. If I could go back in time, I'd pop off Pol Pot, Hitler, Stalin, Bush, Reagan, Fred Durst, etc. If a family is starving and the mother steals a loaf of bread to feed them for the night, she's not a criminal.

I'm tempted to say you can't approach any morals this way, but rape comes to mind. I can't think of any way rape could be justified.

boundbytransience 11-09-2009 06:07 PM

Don't you TOUCH Fred Durst, brough.

whitesquares 11-09-2009 06:13 PM

He had a music video shoot scheduled to take place on top of the World Trade Center in New York City on September 12, 2001.

WE WERE SO CLOSE.

mappyxmassacre 11-09-2009 06:50 PM

[QUOTE=whiteminority;17632054]this.[/QUOTE]

And then the company's charge more for their products to make up for lost profit, which is lame, but it still ****s over the people who shop at Wal-Mart who are generally poor.

Stealing isn't cool guys, sorry.

cobert 11-09-2009 06:52 PM

Then those poor people that can't afford the recently raised Wal-Mart prices should probably steal from Wal-Mart.

whitesquares 11-09-2009 06:58 PM

[QUOTE=mappyxmassacre;17632331]And then the company's charge more for their products to make up for lost profit, which is lame, but it still ****s over the people who shop at Wal-Mart who are generally poor.

Stealing isn't cool guys, sorry.[/QUOTE]

No, stealing from Wal-Mart is totally acceptable. They are a sick, twisted, evil, capitalistic-to-a-fault (socialists cringe at the implications of this phrase, but bear with me) corporation that belittles their employees on a daily basis and makes an absurd profit off the misfortunes of foreign laborers. Their business policies are dragging America and capitalism itself down into the gutter, replacing human dignity with the ever-important dollar sign.

The way I see it, stealing from Wal-Mart should be encouraged. It's an evil, terrible corporation.

If the blue collar workers would band together for once and would boycott Wal-Mart, they'd win. People are just lazy. Wal-Mart is not a good company; rather, they're a convenient company.

whitesquares 11-09-2009 06:59 PM

I'm sure most of you have seen "Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Prices," but here's a link, just in case:

http://www.walmartmovie.com/

mappyxmassacre 11-09-2009 07:02 PM

I know how ****ed up Walmart is, but I still don't agree with making up excuses to compromise my morals.

whitesquares 11-09-2009 07:03 PM

You know, morals CAN be right or wrong, right?

whiteminority 11-09-2009 07:07 PM

Morals are fluid. Tough if you disagree with someone on theirs.

And please don't talk about how I'm screwing over generally poor people, I am poor and will steal from Wal-Mart because they have a stranglehold on business in my area, and in most areas, and their competition benefits no one.

whitesquares 11-09-2009 07:07 PM

[QUOTE=whiteminority;17632364]And please don't talk about how I'm screwing over generally poor people, I am poor and will steal from Wal-Mart because they have a stranglehold on business in my area, and in most areas, and their competition benefits no one.[/QUOTE]

^ This.

Backed.

boundbytransience 11-09-2009 07:15 PM

Sealing is wrong, regardless of who you're stealing from, WTF. I guess I'm not punk enough to respect this. If you don't like Wal-Mart [which SHOULD be disliked], don't ****ing shop there. Support small, family-owned businesses.*






[SIZE="1"]
*Until they become "all corporationy"; then you boycott their products and support a different small business.[/SIZE]

whitesquares 11-09-2009 07:17 PM

[QUOTE=boundbytransience;17632377]Sealing is wrong, regardless of who you're stealing from, WTF. I guess I'm not punk enough to respect this. If you don't like Wal-Mart [which SHOULD be disliked], don't ****ing shop there. Support small, family-owned businesses.*






[SIZE="1"]
*Until they become "all corporationy"; then you boycott their products and support a different small business.[/SIZE][/QUOTE]

Stealing is NOT always wrong, as we've been over.

Bernie Madoff is a thief. A single mother of 4 who occasionally steals a loaf of bread to feed her kids is NOT a thief. There is a profound difference.

RetiredAt21 11-09-2009 08:40 PM

I like to steal.

doki 11-09-2009 08:58 PM

I remember when I used to work in franklins if anyone that I knows come in to the shop my manager will always tell me to watch out for that person, it never stops being funny.

that been said nah stealing is not wrong and its not that black and white.

RetiredAt21 11-09-2009 09:00 PM

Stealing can get addicting.

nevertoolate 11-09-2009 09:02 PM

such a rush

IgniteYourAvail 11-09-2009 09:04 PM

I hate stealing.

mappyxmassacre 11-09-2009 09:04 PM

[QUOTE=whiteminority;17632364]Morals are fluid. Tough if you disagree with someone on theirs.

And please don't talk about how I'm screwing over generally poor people, I am poor and will steal from Wal-Mart because they have a stranglehold on business in my area, and in most areas, and their competition benefits no one.[/QUOTE]

You're such a little kid dude, Jesus Christ.

mappyxmassacre 11-09-2009 09:05 PM

[QUOTE=whitesquares;17632356]You know, morals CAN be right or wrong, right?[/QUOTE]

Stealing is wrong. Taking someone else's property just because you want it isn't acceptable.

NortherlyNanook 11-09-2009 09:08 PM

[QUOTE=RetiredAt21;17632461]I like to steal.[/QUOTE]

quick, honest, to the point

RetiredAt21 11-09-2009 09:09 PM

Quite.

honourosis 11-09-2009 09:42 PM

[QUOTE=mappyxmassacre;17632511]You're such a little kid dude, Jesus Christ.[/QUOTE]

yeah you're not mature unless you pretend to be a girl on an internet forum 4 DA LULZ

RouteOne 11-09-2009 10:01 PM

[quote=flesh;17631910]I am widely aware what is a freegan. I don't see anything wrong with that at all. Like stated before this post, people throw away a lot of useful stuff. Stores do this at a much higher concentration than people. It's also a great way to save money. If you're at a food place, instead of buying a drink look in the trash can for a cup. Rinse it out with hot water and then fill it up. I don't remember the last time I paid for a drink at a fast food place. You can also do the same thing with fries but to a lesser extent. Start looking at the back of grocery stores and it's pretty much like a treasure chest.

Also, if you spend like ten or fifteen minutes spanging ("you have any spare change?") you may be surprised with how much money you can come up on. My friends and I have gone to the town center on a friday evening to spange and come up on like $20.

Try stealing too. I'm not saying you should break into people's houses or mug individual people. Just go to a large grocery store, act casual, go to the veg food aisle stuff some food in your pants/jacket and then walk out. It's pretty easy. Do the same with clothing or most necessities. Go to a walmart or target grab a sweater, batteries, headphones, etc.

Money is not a hard thing to come by on at all. Neither are items you don't have money for.[/quote]
[B][SIZE=7]lol

[/SIZE][/B][SIZE=7][SIZE=2]You have no honor. You are bum who has a strange sense of entitlement to which you feel that you should not earn what you want.



Get a job. Work. If you want something in life you attain it by applying yourself. Begging for change? Get the **** out.
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[/SIZE][/B][quote=whitesquares;17632254]I'm not sure if you can look at stealing or killing as something you can "never" do. If I could go back in time, I'd pop off Pol Pot, Hitler, Stalin, [B]Bush, Reagan,[/B] Fred Durst, etc. If a family is starving and the mother steals a loaf of bread to feed them for the night, she's not a criminal.

I'm tempted to say you can't approach any morals this way, but rape comes to mind. I can't think of any way rape could be justified.[/quote]
Why


did anti-flag tell you to

cobert 11-09-2009 10:58 PM

Putting Bush and Reagan in the same ballpark as Hitler is pretty unnecessary.

Iluvatar 11-09-2009 10:59 PM

if you are poor, and have kids to feed, i would turn a blind eye. but if you are high and have munchies or are stealing clothes you dont NEED then you need to get the **** out of walmart.

RouteOne 11-09-2009 11:05 PM

If you can afford a computer that you are posting on right now, you have no excuse to not have a job.

Aaron 11-09-2009 11:08 PM

If you've got access to the internet you're not poor enough to be forced into the amoral situation of stealing to live.

EDIT: Mr Ron FTW

[quote=mappyxmassacre;17632513]Stealing is wrong. Taking someone else's property just because you want it isn't acceptable.[/quote]
But they really want it.

Mute Print 11-09-2009 11:15 PM

[QUOTE=Aaron;17632771]If you've got access to the internet you're not poor enough to be forced into the amoral situation of stealing to live.[/QUOTE]
This post makes no sense. You can have $0 to your name and still access the internet via the public library.

Mr. Ron's post makes more sense.

Aaron 11-09-2009 11:17 PM

I didn't make a link between wealth and access to telecommunication, you did. Poor doesn't not always mean wealth, it's just that monetary wealth gains access to those things easily. If you can access internet, the society you're in has enough structure that you're not deemed poor by my definition.

RouteOne 11-09-2009 11:23 PM

[quote=Mute Print;17632783]This post makes no sense. You can have $0 to your name and still access the internet via the public library.

Mr. Ron's post makes more sense.[/quote]
Sup NY state brah


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