[QUOTE=JonG]I've been listening to Revolver a lot again.

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I'm hooked. She Said, She Said, And Your Bird Can Sing, For No One are my favs.[/QUOTE]

Revolver is awesome. I went through a phase the last 2 weeks where I just listened to Rubber Soul and Revolver constantly. Over and over again. It's hard to stop once you start listening to it. I've been listening to She Said, She Said a lot too. I suddenly realized how awesome it is.

Edit- An yeah, making avatars with Paint is tough. I took the cover of Rubber Soul and put Christmas hats on all the Beatles but it didn't look to good. And then I found this pic in a google search for Bob Dylan and it works well. So if anyone was wondering, no I did not creat this amazing avatar.

np- Get Back

I've just noticed that in my last.fm artist totals, The Beatles, John Lennon, and George Harrison all rank in my top 6 artists listened to, with The Beatles number 1 by about 120 listens. I've been listening to them even more obsessively than normal these last few weeks.

hah for me the beatles are no1 by about 500 or something

[url]http://www.last.fm/user/franchez[/url]

[QUOTE=clown_phobia]hah for me the beatles are no1 by about 500 or something

[url]http://www.last.fm/user/franchez[/url][/QUOTE]

Well I've only had last.fm for a month, so to be up by 120 songs after a month is a pretty big margin. I can listen to The Beatles all day.

I got mine Oct. 24th, and I have about 2,500 songs played so far. :\

Beatles are around 130 or so.

[QUOTE=Sgt._Joker]Heyyyyy erm, Do any of you have "The Beatles:Complete Scores"

If so,
Is it worth getting?
Is the text to small (i play guitar and read tab)?


thanks for your help.[/QUOTE]

Its awesome. I got it almost 6 years ago, and it has everything, from all the music from all the instruments, to tabs, to chord changes, etc. It is pretty small though, so they can fit like 10 staves on a page.

[QUOTE=robo2448]Well I've only had last.fm for a month, so to be up by 120 songs after a month is a pretty big margin. I can listen to The Beatles all day.[/QUOTE]

That's the way :thumb:

I find that I can always find a different album to fall in love with, theres so many great albums If I'm ever getting sick of one I can just put on a differnt one and love it.

lol did everyone understand that I was joking? There's all this serious talk about the avatars now.

I've been addicted to early Beatles lately, I like how they scream before the solos on A Hard Day's Night.

My avatar still isn't Christmasized.. oh well. One of my presents for Christmas is The White Album.. too bad I have to wait a few days till I can listen to it.

[quote]I've just noticed that in my last.fm artist totals, The Beatles, John Lennon, and George Harrison all rank in my top 6 artists listened to, with The Beatles number 1 by about 120 listens. I've been listening to them even more obsessively than normal these last few weeks.[/quote]The Beatles, Lennon and Harrison are all in my top 10. I don't listen to much Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr solo stuff..

[QUOTE=HighVoltageRockNRoll]lol did everyone understand that I was joking? There's all this serious talk about the avatars now.[/QUOTE]

Well come on man, do you really expect us to know you're joking when you don't throw any "lol's" or "jk's" in there??:p

/lol jk

B34tl3s r t3h suxx0rz.

But seriously, I pose a question to all you fans and fanatics: how many of you think the Beatles are the greatest rock band ever to have lived? Because I seriously don't. There are many guitarists alive now *cough[size=1]Omar[/size]cough* who give George and John a run for their money; many drummers who could rape Ringo with one stick; many bassists *cough[size=4]Paul Turner[/size]cough* who absolutely [i]kill[/i] Paul, etc. They played bog-standard 12-bar rock half the time, and their lyrics ("Have you seen the little piggies...") were not nearly as good as, say, Brandon Boyd's or Thom Yorke's. They have some merit as a joke band, though... :p Even one or two of their jazzy ballad-type songs such as Yesterday, whilst original, sound like any three songs from Elton John's repertoire.

I personally dislike the Beatles. They were highly inventive, I'll give them that, but far from the greatest rock band ever to have lived. Discuss.

^Well, no, maybe they aren't as technically good as a good amount of musicians today, but withou the Beatles, those musicains would never have even gotten interested in music in the first place.
The Beatles layed the foundations for hard rock, psychadellia, prog, and many other styles of music.
They progressed so dramatically, changing from album to album, even song to song at points.
And a "greatest band ever" title is left up to the opinion of the listeners.

Yeah, I know. They were inventive. I'm just trying to determine how many Beatlemaniacs think that the band can honestly be called the greatest ever. Because, as you said, it's left to the listeners' opinions. Any musician with an ounce of wits will not label any band "the greatest ever".

[QUOTE=mutant!]B34tl3s r t3h suxx0rz.

But seriously, I pose a question to all you fans and fanatics: how many of you think the Beatles are the greatest rock band ever to have lived? Because I seriously don't. There are many guitarists alive now *cough[size=1]Omar[/size]cough* who give George and John a run for their money; many drummers who could rape Ringo with one stick; many bassists *cough[size=4]Paul Turner[/size]cough* who absolutely [i]kill[/i] Paul, etc. They played bog-standard 12-bar rock half the time, and their lyrics ("Have you seen the little piggies...") were not nearly as good as, say, Brandon Boyd's or Thom Yorke's. They have some merit as a joke band, though... :p Even one or two of their jazzy ballad-type songs such as Yesterday, whilst original, sound like any three songs from Elton John's repertoire.

I personally dislike the Beatles. They were highly inventive, I'll give them that, but far from the greatest rock band ever to have lived. Discuss.[/QUOTE]


They are the most succsesful band ever, the most innovative band ever, and the most creative band ever. They wrote some of the best songs ever written, and their songs feature the best vocal melodies ever written.

But to call a band the greatest of all time is only a personal opinion you can't prove that they are the best band. But there is certainly no band better then them at the craft of songwriting, sure 90% of guitarists out there today could out solo Lennon...but Lennon was the rhythm guitarist and a great one at that. And sure many guitarist could play faster than George Harrison.

But is Clapton, Richards, or Vai capable of writing songs like "Here Comes The Sun," "Something," and "All Things Must Pass," the only who can come close to those songs is Clapton and even he is not as good a songwriter as Harrison a better guitarist maybe but songwriter and signer no.

And the same goes for Paul, sure flea could out play McCartney on the bass. But actually McCartney is better than at least 80% of the mainstream bands out there today. I don't think I've heard a song where Paul played the same thing on the bass as the guitar.

And who cares if Paul's not the best bass player in the world, how many other "bass players" can say that they know how to play the bass, the guitar, the drums, the piano? And how many of them can say they've written and sung some of the best song's ever made.

Now Ringo...the one everyone loves to take shots at. Has anyone actually listened to Ringo's drumming? Sure he can't compare with Mitch Mitchell, John Bonahm, and Neil Peart. But he's alot better than what people give him credit for. Try listening to Rain, or Come Together (there's some great fills in that song), and for his one and only drum solo try listening to The End. I've noticed that he's actually a great drummer, and anyone who says he does nothing but simple beats has probably listened to only the first 5 tracks on The Number One's.

And John, his guitar work is mainly rhythm, and sure the rhythm in the beatles songs are not complex, and they don't use all the crazy types of chords augmented, etc. But the chords fit the vocals perfectly (Hide Your Love Away, Eight Days A Week). And most of the beatles songs make use of lots of chords and are rarely just three chord songs an exception maybe Love Me Do but that's extremley early Beatles.

So though Led Zeppelin, Cream, and Black Sabbath may have been more complex (and if being complex makes you more talented), more talented indvidually. None of those bands as a whole are as talented as The Beatles. If were gonna face John off against Jimi Hendrix, Paul against Flea, Ringo against Neal Peart, and George against Eric Clapton...on their instrument skills, I can bet the members of the beatles will not get the highest votes (maybe George would win.)

But if were comparing The Beatles as a whole, no band has matched them.

Yeah, my "all-stars" band would have been Elvis, Jimi, Jaco and Hal Blaine, but anyway.

[QUOTE=HighVoltageRockNRoll]They are the most succsesful band ever, the most innovative band ever...[/QUOTE]
Objective troof.
[QUOTE=HighVoltageRockNRoll]...and the most creative band ever...their songs feature the best vocal melodies ever written.[/QUOTE]
Subjective troof. (ie Not necessarily.)

I know Ringo is good, I happen to like Come Together a lot (but that may have something to do with the fact that it doesn't sound like the rest of their stuff at all :p). I know Paul is good too. My best friend is a total Beatles fanatic and I've heard the phrase "George Harrison is an underrated guitarist" kerjillions of times before, and now you guys have confirmed that (or the notion, at least). I know John was a good singer and songwriter.

My band also consists of four people. I play guitar, piano and sax in the band, and do lead vocals. Bread (the Beatles fan) plays bass, piano, recorder and sax, and does the Frusciante backing falsetto thing. Johan does turntables and MCing. David plays drums and guitar and has a good singing voice too. So there, a little high school band has just as much instrumental diversity/talent as the Beatles.

[QUOTE=HighVoltageRockNRoll]I don't think I've heard a song where Paul played the same thing on the bass as the guitar.[/QUOTE]
If you could verify this for me, it would improve Paul's standing in my eyes.

Sure, Yesterday is a good song. I happen to think Mad World is better. Assuming I'm right, here's the question: who's the better band? The Beatles, because they wrote a lot of good songs? Or Tears For Fears, because they wrote one awesome song?

There's also the matter of taste. As far as my knowledge of the band goes, a vast selection of their music is totally senseless. One can only dig so deep for meaning before it becomes artificial and you are only trying to make up something to justify an LSD-induced hallucination-turned-song.

Ah, hell, there's a million points I could bring up but it's 12:33 AM and I'm tired, and I don't really want a flamefest. You guys can like who you want to and I'll respect that. My issue was just with people who call the Beatles "The greatest band ever" and think they're being objective, then have very little evidence to back their claim. Love you guys. :thumb:

[size=7]HOLY CRAP, THE OPINIONS ARE EVERYWHERE ON THIS PAGE![/size]

[QUOTE=mutant!]

My band also consists of four people. I play guitar, piano and sax in the band, and do lead vocals. Bread (the Beatles fan) plays bass, piano, recorder and sax, and does the Frusciante backing falsetto thing. Johan does turntables and MCing. David plays drums and guitar and has a good singing voice too. So there, a little high school band has just as much instrumental diversity/talent as the Beatles.
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That doesn't make you diverse, talented yes (not as much as the beatles), but diversity would depend on how many styles of music you actually play.

[QUOTE=mutant!]If you could verify this for me, it would improve Paul's standing in my eyes.[/quote]

Well I don't know the bass to everysong, but I do have about 50 beatle songs on guitar pro. And Im I've yet to see the bass line the same as the rote note of the chord played on guitar.

[QUOTE=mutant!]Sure, Yesterday is a good song. I happen to think Mad World is better. Assuming I'm right, here's the question: who's the better band? The Beatles, because they wrote a lot of good songs? Or Tears For Fears, because they wrote one awesome song?[/quote]

Is that a serious question? I would go with a.) a band who wrote lots of good songs. All the one hit wonders in the world don't compare to bands that consistently write good material.

[QUOTE=mutant!]There's also the matter of taste. As far as my knowledge of the band goes, a vast selection of their music is totally senseless. One can only dig so deep for meaning before it becomes artificial and you are only trying to make up something to justify an LSD-induced hallucination-turned-song.[/quote]

Their early stuff is mainly love songs, which is not sensless, then there middle stuff is more serious stuff, then there experimental phase, some songs like Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds, and I Am The Walrus may strike you as sensless crap written while on LSD. But I don't think they ever wrote a song while on LSD. And actually John and Paul are widely considered two of the top best songwriters of all time.

[QUOTE=mutant!]
Ah, hell, there's a million points I could bring up but it's 12:33 AM and I'm tired, and I don't really want a flamefest. You guys can like who you want to and I'll respect that. My issue was just with people who call the Beatles "The greatest band ever" and think they're being objective, then have very little evidence to back their claim. Love you guys. :thumb:[/QUOTE]

I'm not making a flamefest, just having a debate. And I think that the following would work as evidence in claiming they are the greatest band ever;
- Over 1 Billion Records Sold Worldwide
- The Most Succesful Group Of All Time
- Sgt. Pepper is the fastest selling album in the UK
- A Record 20 Number One Singles
- In 1964 the top 5 songs on the charts were all by the Beatles
-The White Album is number 8 on the top selling albums of all time
- They broke in 1969 and 32 years later there Greatest hits "1's" released in 2001 became the fastest selling album of all time.
- And 36 year later Paul McCartney has set the record for fastest sold out concert (14 Minutes).

Thats just all I can think off right now :)

If I find out who keeps going around saying the Beatles are the greatest band ever, I'm going to have a little talk with him/her and explain how irritating it is to us when someone hears that and we, once again, have to get into this tired old debate with that person.:mad:

Non-subjective remark: Most commercially successful band ever.:)

The thing is The Beatles didn't even have to tour for a good 10 years or so. What band today could even do that in this age?

10 years?? They were only around for 10 years, and only really popular for 6 of them.

Haha sorry, I always think their careers were longer. Still, they didn't tour in 4 years, which is a long time by today's standards.

Yes indeed. Not touring these days would be career suicide.

[QUOTE=HighVoltageRockNRoll]That doesn't make you diverse, talented yes (not as much as the beatles), but diversity would depend on how many styles of music you actually play.[/QUOTE]
Jazz (including funk, cool jazz and fusion), blues, metal (including elements from '80s and '90s metal), rock ('90s mostly, but '60s/'70s too), classical (especially Bach-style Baroque stuff and Chopin/Rachmaninoff-influenced Romantic stuff) and pop (as far as songwriting is concerned). Anyway, I was talking about [i]instrumental[/i] diversity.

[QUOTE=HighVoltageRockNRoll]I'm not making a flamefest, just having a debate.[/QUOTE]
I know, I'm just ending this before it becomes one. I know it's not nice dissing a band in their thread.

But I respect you. You make valid points. :thumb:

i believe greatest is defined by size of impact and influence. Beatles have sold more than anyone else, therefore have the most influence (in theory i spose) and therefore are greatest. greatest isnt necessarily best.

[QUOTE=mutant!]


My band also consists of four people. I play guitar, piano and sax in the band, and do lead vocals. Bread (the Beatles fan) plays bass, piano, recorder and sax, and does the Frusciante backing falsetto thing. Johan does turntables and MCing. David plays drums and guitar and has a good singing voice too. So there, [B]a little high school band has just as much instrumental diversity/talent[/B] as the Beatles.


[/QUOTE]

Wow you're a cocky cu[B]n[/B]t
John Lennon- Guitar, Harmonica, Piano, Vocals.
Paul McCartney- Guitar, Bass, Drums, Piano, Vocals, Uke, Trumpet.
Ringo- Drums
George- Uke, Guitar, Sitar.
Their musical talent and diversity ****en out strips you in every way posible
how can you possibley compare your group to the beatles and say that you are just as instrumentally diverse and just as talented as they were?

you are wrong, its easy to say the beatles wernt the greatest rock band in history.. but if no-one has selled more records.. been more influencial and creative.. as well as been chasimatic who the **** is the greatest rock band in history?

[QUOTE=Sgt._Joker]who the **** is the greatest rock band in history?[/QUOTE]


No one, it's all about opinions, there can't be a best in music or any other thing that is artistic(painting etc) it's all opinions

[QUOTE=Sgt._Joker]Wow you're a cocky cu[B]n[/B]t
John Lennon- Guitar, Harmonica, Piano, Vocals.
Paul McCartney- Guitar, Bass, Drums, Piano, Vocals, Uke, Trumpet.
Ringo- Drums
George- Uke, Guitar, Sitar.
Their musical talent and diversity ****en out strips you in every way posible
how can you possibley compare your group to the beatles and say that you are just as instrumentally diverse and just as talented as they were?

you are wrong, its easy to say the beatles wernt the greatest rock band in history.. but if no-one has selled more records.. been more influencial and creative.. as well as been chasimatic who the **** is the greatest rock band in history?[/QUOTE]

:rolleyes: the flames have begun...suprisingly after the non flaming, clean debate.

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]Its awesome. I got it almost 6 years ago, and it has everything, from all the music from all the instruments, to tabs, to chord changes, etc. It is pretty small though, so they can fit like 10 staves on a page.[/QUOTE]

x2. I got it when i was 5, cause i thought it was a beatles biography. sat unused for 10 years till i learned to play guitar and i love it. the texts a little small since it has arangements for all the instruments, but its completely legible and understandable. get it you wont be sorry

Am I the only one who is a huge fan of Please Please Me? That's a really great album, all the songs are insanely catchy...and it closes with one of the best vocal performances from John ...Twist and Shout!

[QUOTE=Med57]My review of the album.[/QUOTE]

Good job.

It's chrismas, and I got, 3 beatle shirts, 7 beatle albums, Anthology disc one, Yellow submarine action figures adn yellow submarine playing cards. I'm so happy. :p

7 albums? Awesome. Please Please Me is a good album. The Beatles related things I got were The White Album, With The Beatles, Hard Day's Night, Help!, that Guitar World John Lennon magazine and a Revolver calendar. The only action figure I got was Slash, which looks awesome, haha.

I got Revolver and Magical Mystery Tour for Xmas, and the only other thing I asked for that was Beatles related was Yellow Submarine, so I'm pretty satisfied.

I finally have Revolver!! Hurray!!!

Revolver is so amazing. There is not a bad song on the album, seriously. I'm a big fan of MMT as well. I think you'll like them both.

Yeah I love MMT with a passion(already have it on vinyl but wanted a cd). But with the exception of a few songs, I don't know much of Revolver so with all that I've heard I'm really excited to listen to it.

I think that sometimes too, but then I come to my senses:p

Never heard of them.

I got Hard Day's Night for Christmas (the album, got the DVD three years ago for christmas)

so my Beatles collection as of right now on CD:

Anthology 1
Hard Day's Night
Help
Rubber Soul
Revolver
Sgt. Pepper's
Magical Mystery Tour
White Album
Yellow SUbmarine (the newer one)
Let it Be Naked
ABbey Road
1
6 CD set of a bootleg from a BBC radio program on The Beatles

All I need are Past Masters 1 and 2, Please Please Me, With the Beatles, and Beatles for Sale (I don't really care about getting the other anthologies) and I will have every Beatles song ever realeased.

EDIT: oh **** except for Real Love but I've downloaded that one already

What's the newer Yellow Submarine?

And I've never heard of Jellyfish either.

Oh okay. I have the newer one then.

What's some good songs by that band?

/searches jellyfish and expects to get nothing but spongebob related songs

MMT is denintly my fav Beatle album. So many great songs are on it (excluding Blue Jay Way, Flying and Baby your a rich man, never really liked any of those songs).