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robo2448 08-02-2005 08:19 PM

I'd have to say my favorite jazz album is Bitches Brew, but I'm not a huge jazz fan. I don't feel Bitches Brew is amazing like most of you think.

BlackDeathMetalJazz or really ANYTHING else please- 08-02-2005 08:37 PM

[QUOTE=Lunch]I don't even know how to describe Bitches Brew, I sometimes think of it as "sludge" psychedelia in jazz.[/QUOTE]
Although it's very trippy stuff it's not really psychedelic Jazz but it's one of the first mixes of Rock and Jazz latter to be called Jazz-Fusion. [I]In A Silent Way[/I] (by Miles Davis) which was made directly before [I]Bitches Brew[/I] is usally considered the birth of Fusion.

If you want psychedelic Jazz check out some Free Jazz or some Avant Garde. [I]Out to Lunch[/I] is a great example of Free Jazz and [I]Alantis[/I] by Sun Ra is a good example of Avant Garde. Just to make things clear:

Free Jazz > Avant Garde

Lunch 08-02-2005 08:40 PM

I can never get the write word for Bitches Brew, but it has that psychedelic/trippy/dripping/sludge feel to it. To me, at least

jpj 08-02-2005 08:48 PM

I read in Rolling Stone that the Dead are releasing a 10 disc box set of every show in the Live/Dead run at the Fillmore West. It's only available off their website for $79.95, and only 10,000 copies are being made, but a 3 disc retail version is being release in November or something.

I'm trying to decide if I want it, though I will definitely get the retail version if I don't get this.

ATM 08-02-2005 08:53 PM

I heard on the radio that Floyd are putting out a new DVD

pigonthewing82 08-02-2005 08:55 PM

Today I heard a live Gratful Dead cover of Hey Jude, it was pretty cool, I love when the Dead do covers like that.

jpj 08-02-2005 08:55 PM

[QUOTE=Slug]I heard on the radio that Floyd are putting out a new DVD[/QUOTE]
Which reminds me, in the same Rolling Stone there was an interview with Roger Waters. He denied all rumors that Floyd were going to tour. I believe his reasoning for not doing a tour was "I can roll over for a day, but not for a whole fuc[SIZE=2]k[/SIZE]ing tour." As in he can manage not start sh[SIZE=2]i[/SIZE]t with Gilmour for a day, but not for a tour.

jpj 08-02-2005 08:56 PM

[QUOTE=pigonthewing82]Today I heard a live Gratful Dead cover of Hey Jude, it was pretty cool, I love when the Dead do covers like that.[/QUOTE]
They did that for the encore on one of the Live/Dead shows (it was in the article).

Lunch 08-02-2005 08:56 PM

[QUOTE=pigonthewing82]Today I heard a live Gratful Dead cover of Hey Jude, it was pretty cool, I love when the Dead do covers like that.[/QUOTE]

Aside from their originals, which make them a great band to say the least, The Grateful Dead are one of the best cover bands ever. They played everything.

BlackDeathMetalJazz or really ANYTHING else please- 08-02-2005 08:59 PM

[QUOTE=Lunch]I can never get the write word for Bitches Brew, but it has that psychedelic/trippy/dripping/sludge feel to it. To me, at least[/QUOTE]I know how you feel^

Speaking of Fusion I'm still trying to find [I]Emergency![/I] by Tony Williams anyone have it? It's supposed to have the most amazing drumming ever and he was Eric Dolphy's drummer for awhile and John McLaughlin is the guitarist. I mean that's a formula for greatness!

pigonthewing82 08-02-2005 09:01 PM

[QUOTE=jpj]Which reminds me, in the same Rolling Stone there was an interview with Roger Waters. He denied all rumors that Floyd were going to tour. I believe his reasoning for not doing a tour was "I can roll over for a day, but not for a whole fuc[SIZE=2]k[/SIZE]ing tour." As in he can manage not start sh[SIZE=2]i[/SIZE]t with Gilmour for a day, but not for a tour.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I never really expected a tour, for those reasons, and that Waters is very busy with different solo projects so once hes done with his oprea we might see a Waters tour.

Walrus Gumboot 08-02-2005 09:02 PM

[QUOTE=pigonthewing82]Today I heard a live Gratful Dead cover of Hey Jude, it was pretty cool, I love when the Dead do covers like that.[/QUOTE]


That must have been just swell


A mouse just jumped onto the cord that connects my TV to the outlet in the wall, and it won't move. Not even if I jiggile the cord. It just stares at me :eek:

np: Like A Hurricane

Dr. Killgreedy 08-02-2005 09:06 PM

i thought when the dead did amazing grace for jerry was awesome. the bass sounds extremely well live.

Badmoon 08-02-2005 09:08 PM

The Dead's cover of Amazing Grace was one of my favorites done by both forms the Grateful Dead.

Lunch 08-02-2005 09:09 PM

When I said "The Dead" earlier I meant The Grateful Dead.

Woodstock 08-02-2005 09:19 PM

Btw, [I]In A Silent Way[/I] > [I]Bitches Brew[/I].

And now I have three Coltrane albums. [I]Giant Steps[/I], [I]Blue Train[/I], and [I]A Love Supreme[/I].

Classic rock is cool though.

BludgeonySteve 08-02-2005 09:22 PM

Yes, I like classic rock very much. *nods*

I say we all have a good ol' fasion classic rock chat! Who=with me?!

JonG 08-02-2005 09:22 PM

Who wants to see my guitar? :P


[url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=373920[/url]

jpj 08-02-2005 09:23 PM

[QUOTE=RNR]Yes, I like classic rock very much. *nods*

I say we all have a good ol' fasion classic rock chat! Who=with me?![/QUOTE]
I'm up for it.

NP: Rush-YYZ, I could listen to this song all day.

Lunch 08-02-2005 09:23 PM

Wow, classic rock chat. Very old school.

Walrus Gumboot 08-02-2005 09:25 PM

[QUOTE=JonG]Who wants to see my guitar? :P


[url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=373920[/url][/QUOTE]

It's [I]Beautiful[/I]

Lovely living room too I might add

EDIT: I'll do the chat, but only if it's soon, because it is my bedtime :o
EDITEDIT: Nevermind, Express is spazzing out on me :upset:

Glitterati 08-02-2005 09:48 PM

I spent this evening at the beach. I was swimming and hanging out, and some guys were playing guitar out of the back of their truck. They had set of a little jam, and one had a harmonica. They played "Heart Of Gold" by Neil Young, which wa really cool.

Badmoon 08-02-2005 09:51 PM

noice

Glitterati 08-02-2005 09:51 PM

[QUOTE=leppermessiah] if it was with Phil Collins then i can't see this song being any worse...god i hate phil collins.

[/QUOTE]

Ugh...as do I.

I got The Who Sell Out from my library today. They have that, A Quick One, AND Live At Leeds. :eek:

Lunch 08-02-2005 09:52 PM

Good deal.

Woodstock 08-02-2005 10:10 PM

So, I'm going to the RNR Hall of Fame in about two weeks, and on the way back, to Cedar Point. I'm happy. Maybe that Tommy exhibit will still be there, Lunch.

Lunch 08-02-2005 10:14 PM

Yea it's there until March. Definitely check it out.

magicbus 08-02-2005 10:22 PM

When are you going to Cedar Point? I might go too.

JonG, niiiice guitar. Do you own both Gibsons?

Woodstock 08-02-2005 10:25 PM

[QUOTE=magicbus]When are you going to Cedar Point? I might go too.

JonG, niiiice guitar. Do you own both Gibsons?[/QUOTE]
The weekend around the 20th I think, if that is a weekend. I haven't checked.

EDIT: Yep, I'll be at Cedar Point on Sunday teh 21st.

JonG 08-02-2005 10:30 PM

[QUOTE=magicbus]When are you going to Cedar Point? I might go too.

JonG, niiiice guitar. Do you own both Gibsons?[/QUOTE]
Why, yes I do.


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