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MRDuCran 09-09-2006 09:14 PM

If we were going to record the instruments individually, it doesn't matter about synching up vocals and guitar at the same time, just work on both seperately and then record them seperately.

MrSigma 09-09-2006 11:31 PM

maybe if they asked Mr. Dave Mustaine nicely for some more riffs, they would have a decent album.

OH and they should have begged Jason to come back and been bassist/vocalist and made james backup vocalist. i think they would have been decent then. But jason hates those pricks.

Chu 09-10-2006 12:39 AM

What are you talking about Hetfield is still a master of riffs.

Huber 09-10-2006 01:25 AM

[QUOTE=MrSigma]maybe if they asked Mr. Dave Mustaine nicely for some more riffs, they would have a decent album.

OH and they should have begged Jason to come back and been bassist/vocalist and made james backup vocalist. i think they would have been decent then. But jason hates those pricks.[/QUOTE]

Jason was not good enough for permanent vocalist slot.

And you're first statement is just stupid.

"What if Slipknot asked Mr. John Petrucci for some more solos they would have a decent album lawl"

Kage 09-10-2006 01:34 AM

It really bugs me how people like to add Mr. to rock musicians names. It really just irks me.

Chu 09-10-2006 01:47 AM

I guess it's just showing some sort of respect for the person.

Kage 09-10-2006 02:26 AM

Nah, that's the thing. It's not for respect, it just gives this stupid little tone that bugs me. I can't describe it.

MrSigma 09-10-2006 02:28 AM

[QUOTE=Huber]Jason was not good enough for permanent vocalist slot.

And you're first statement is just stupid.

"What if Slipknot asked Mr. John Petrucci for some more solos they would have a decent album lawl"[/QUOTE]
james cant sing anymore. jason could. james would still be rythem guitar and backup vocals. jason would be bass and lead vocals.

MrSigma 09-10-2006 02:29 AM

[QUOTE=Kage]It really bugs me how people like to add Mr. to rock musicians names. It really just irks me.[/QUOTE]
its because dave mustaine has my respect. james hetfield does not.

Chu 09-10-2006 02:43 AM

[QUOTE=MrSigma]its because dave mustaine has my respect. james hetfield does not.[/QUOTE]
No offense, but I'm pretty sure neither of them would care either way.

Perhaps Locusts 09-10-2006 03:02 AM

[QUOTE=Kage]Nah, that's the thing. It's not for respect, it just gives this stupid little tone that bugs me. I can't describe it.[/QUOTE]
Sorry to tell you Mr. Kage, but you're wrong.


123 to the idea of Dave giving Metallica some riffs

No to the idea of Mr. John Petrucci giving Slipknot riffs

Chu 09-10-2006 03:24 AM

[QUOTE=Perhaps Locusts]123 to the idea of Dave giving Metallica some riffs[/QUOTE]
No. :mad:

Hetfield is still a riff beast.

metallicaman8 09-10-2006 11:42 AM

[QUOTE=MrSigma]james cant sing anymore. jason could. james would still be rythem guitar and backup vocals. jason would be bass and lead vocals.[/QUOTE]

You're ignorant. Jason is a horrid vocalist. Go to youtube and look up a video of Seek&Destroy. There's a few of them where Jason sings the first verse. he sucks, hard. In referrence to your earlier statement about Mustaine giving Metallica riffs or whatever, Metallica's best album is MOP. It's a fiesta of frquent fretting and it owns KEA and RTL. It's even ranked number 169 on Rolling Stones Magazines 500 greatest albums, which is ahead of any of Megadeth's albums btw. Mustaine contributed no riffs to MOP, so I think James is just fine without him.

Here's a link to a show where Jason sings if you like:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzEDfmCsW6Y[/url]

6stringed 09-10-2006 12:23 PM

James is so much better than Jason

highwaysalmon 09-10-2006 01:26 PM

this better not turn into the metallica/megadeth arguement again. its a big waste of time.

Bazarov 09-10-2006 01:31 PM

[QUOTE=metallicaman8]You're ignorant. Jason is a horrid vocalist. Go to youtube and look up a video of Seek&Destroy. There's a few of them where Jason sings the first verse. he sucks, hard. In referrence to your earlier statement about Mustaine giving Metallica riffs or whatever, Metallica's best album is MOP. It's a fiesta of frquent fretting and it owns KEA and RTL. It's even ranked number 169 on Rolling Stones Magazines 500 greatest albums, which is ahead of any of Megadeth's albums btw. [B]Mustaine contributed no riffs to MOP[/B], so I think James is just fine without him.

Here's a link to a show where Jason sings if you like:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzEDfmCsW6Y[/url][/QUOTE]

He claims to have written Leper Mesiah.. oh well.

It's taken me a long while, seriously ...AJFA was my favorite Metallica album for such a long long time, but now RTL is mine.

metallicaman8 09-10-2006 03:16 PM

[QUOTE=Butcher]He claims to have written Leper Mesiah.. oh well.

It's taken me a long while, seriously ...AJFA was my favorite Metallica album for such a long long time, but now RTL is mine.[/QUOTE]

I seriously doubt he wrote it. Even if he did that's not the best song on the album anyhow, and AJFA and their S/T still provide evidence that James can write some damn good riffs.

I really like RTL, as well. It isn't my favourite though, mostly thanks to weaker tracks the "Trapped Under ice" and "Escape". I still like those tracks, but they're not up to par with the rest of the album. Not to mention I just like MOP's overall feel better.

MRDuCran 09-10-2006 03:23 PM

Heh, it's either Hetfield vs Mustaine or omgwhatsyourfavouritealbum ITT.

Let's get on with those covers. :(

Lionheart1827 09-10-2006 06:03 PM

Yeah RTL is my favorite album.

I dont know what it is, but it has "something" that the other albums dont.:thumb:

Chu 09-10-2006 07:32 PM

Because it had, Hetfield, Ulrich, Burton, Mustaine and Hammett.

5 of the most metal mother ****ers out there :D (This was the case when it was released imo, it's changed since then obviously).

Edit: MoP has a Mustaine sound to it imo, if he didn't write any of the material, it was definately influenced by him.

pate 09-10-2006 11:56 PM

[QUOTE=metallicaman8]You're ignorant. Jason is a horrid vocalist. Go to youtube and look up a video of Seek&Destroy. There's a few of them where Jason sings the first verse. he sucks, hard. In referrence to your earlier statement about Mustaine giving Metallica riffs or whatever, Metallica's best album is MOP. It's a fiesta of frquent fretting and it owns KEA and RTL.[B] It's even ranked number 169 on Rolling Stones Magazines 500 greatest albums, [/B]which is ahead of any of Megadeth's albums btw. Mustaine contributed no riffs to MOP, so I think James is just fine without him.[/QUOTE]

...because everybody knows Rolling Stone Magazine is the authority on metal, or music in general.

Apocalyptic Raids 09-10-2006 11:58 PM

The Rolling Stone 500 Greatest albums list wasn't compiled by the staff of Rolling Stone itself.

heavy metal kid 09-10-2006 11:59 PM

[QUOTE=Chu]Because it had, Hetfield, Ulrich, Burton, Mustaine and Hammett.

[/QUOTE]

This is one of the main reasons of why RtL is my favorite Metallica album.

I didn't know that Metallica had to buy the whole Johnny Got his Gun movie rights just so they can do the One video.

pate 09-11-2006 12:17 AM

[QUOTE=Apocalyptic Raids]The Rolling Stone 500 Greatest albums list wasn't compiled by the staff of Rolling Stone itself.[/QUOTE]

...but by the people deemed by Rolling Stone Magazine to be important in music?

Apocalyptic Raids 09-11-2006 12:27 AM

It was 273 musicians, record executives, producers etc

and yeah the metal representation was s[size=2]h[/size]itty but anyone who expected anything else is dumb.

pate 09-11-2006 12:31 AM

Ah. And I wasn't expecting anything else.

Apocalyptic Raids 09-11-2006 12:33 AM

I was genuinely suprised there was no Iron Maiden or Judas Priest, though.

MrSigma 09-11-2006 01:07 AM

[QUOTE=metallicaman8]You're ignorant. Jason is a horrid vocalist. Go to youtube and look up a video of Seek&Destroy. There's a few of them where Jason sings the first verse. he sucks, hard. In referrence to your earlier statement about Mustaine giving Metallica riffs or whatever, Metallica's best album is MOP. It's a fiesta of frquent fretting and it owns KEA and RTL. It's even ranked number 169 on Rolling Stones Magazines 500 greatest albums, which is ahead of any of Megadeth's albums btw. Mustaine contributed no riffs to MOP, so I think James is just fine without him.

Here's a link to a show where Jason sings if you like:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzEDfmCsW6Y[/url][/QUOTE]
jason sings alot better then james does now. and jason can STILL sing.

Chu 09-11-2006 06:51 AM

I think James can still sing fine, ****, to be honest, I'm happier with Metallica now, then I was say 5 years ago, they have improved a lot in that short time.

You cannot expect a band to stay the same for 20, almost 30 years (Metallica formed in 1979 or so?), they're always going to change.

I for one, am very happy that they are starting to release (heavy) metal again, who cares if they're downtuning these days? They're older, they've changed a bit, they might not be able to do the same things they once did, but they can still play music, and that's all I care about.

Who cares that Lars doesn't play the most technical drums in the world?
Maybe I'm the only one, but last I checked, Metallica didn't claim to play technical music by any standard.

Who cares that Kirk abuses the pentatonic scale? When he does play leads, people complain that he always plays the same solo or whatever (I am guilty of this), yet when he doesn't play a solo, people complain about that too.

It's like people don't want to accept that musicians are just normal people, and as normal people, they [b]have[/b] to change.

Apocalyptic Raids 09-11-2006 08:24 AM

[QUOTE]You cannot expect a band to stay the same for 20, almost 30 years (Metallica formed in 1979 or so?), they're always going to change.[/QUOTE]
1981


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