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lol that was great!

ah yes john mccain's primary goal, ****ing over brown people

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[QUOTE=hismajestythepope;16814358]make a point to show me that he hasnt been very selective with who "needs" help[/QUOTE]

It's rather hard to denounce a point that doesn't have any evidence to back it up so idk... :(

George Bush hates black people.

george bush loves cocaine

[QUOTE=hismajestythepope;16814364]ah yes john mccain's primary goal, ****ing over brown people

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just saying the best way to manage the nations money isnt exactly dumping it all into killing people

just saying that increasing military spending totally doesnt increase productivity in the companies that manufacture militaristic arms and stimulate the economy.

just saying LOOOOOOOOOOL

just saying yeah your point is pretty hilariously ignorant.

if you were to do some historical research, you might find that increased military spending SAVED US FROM THE GREAT DEPRESSION.

[QUOTE=hismajestythepope;16814387]just saying that increasing military spending totally doesnt increase productivity in the companies that manufacture militaristic arms and stimulate the economy.[/QUOTE]

That worked a lot better in WWII, the overall spending on military does NOT equal out in the favor of the economy these days.

[QUOTE=hismajestythepope;16814394]just saying yeah your point is pretty hilariously ignorant.

if you were to do some historical research, you might find that increased military spending SAVED US FROM THE GREAT DEPRESSION.[/QUOTE]

Oh so that's what they're trying to do!! I get it!

oh so now military production is its own separate economic body outside of the united states?

please steve enlighten me

dimmu how are you so retarded

[QUOTE=Angmar;16814396]That worked a lot better in WWII, the overall spending on military does NOT equal out in the favor of the economy these days.[/QUOTE]

this. the idea is just ****ing mindnumbing retarded.

Umm I never said that it did, I'm saying that you stating that the war we are in right now is helping our economy is just wrong. Why do you think things like Diesel are so high in cost? What do military vehicles use? Wars cost a lot more nowadays than they have, and the War in Iraq is one of the reasons our economy is in trouble.

[QUOTE=masada;16814401]dimmu how are you so retarded[/QUOTE]

lol I was just kidding jeez!!

[QUOTE=Angmar;16814404]Umm I never said that it did, I'm saying that you stating that the war we are in right now is helping our economy is just wrong. [B][B]Why do you think things like Diesel are so high in cost? [/B][/B]What do military vehicles use? Wars cost a lot more nowadays than they have, and the War in Iraq is one of the reasons our economy is in trouble.[/QUOTE]

steve. people in australia pay higher prices on gas than we do in america.

on top of that, gas prices are going down.

on top of that a major issue with oil prices globally is actually russia.

also, the iraqi situation is detrimental to our economy, yes. however we need to stay there to make sure that exremist anti-western militant groups dont take over, until the iraqi people themselves can make sure of it on their own.

[QUOTE=Ghoul Hunter;16814402]this. the idea is just ****ing mindnumbing retarded.[/QUOTE]

please explain to me how its any more mind numbingly retarded than ADMITTING that our government doesnt spend their money where they say they are but still voting for tax increases?

[QUOTE=hismajestythepope;16814400]oh so now military production is its own separate economic body outside of the united states?

please steve enlighten me[/QUOTE]

the military spending also went along with the 'war effort at home' thing which increased manufacturing and created **** tons of jobs, that's what pulled the US out of the depression in WWII, not just military spending

the situation now is very different; there isn't really an 'effort at home' to spur the economy this time around because we buy our equipment from China and other foreign countries because our leaders lack the insight to know that's a bad idea

[QUOTE=hismajestythepope;16814416]steve. people in australia pay higher prices on gas than we do in america.

on top of that, gas prices are going down.

on top of that a major issue with oil prices globally is actually russia.[/QUOTE]

Your point is still wrong in saying that the War in Iraq is helping our economy, is this so hard to understand?

[QUOTE=hismajestythepope;16814228]but dude honestly, why not just cut spending rather than increase taxing?

thats all i can say. our government spends too much money on programs where the money isnt going where its supposed to.

lets look at the minnesota bridge collapse incident, state departments of transportation are funded by the federal government, mndot employees spent money on themselves instead of on bridge repairs, an interstate bridge between two major cities collapsed and both st. paul and minneapolis had traffic back ups that kept people out of work or got people to work 4 hours late.

if things like this are going on in our nation, why should taxes be increased to throw more money into these programs? shouldnt the government focus more on regulating the spending as opposed to taxes?

id say they should but, as you see government officials will let bridges that were pronounced hazardous to collapse just to hold onto tax dollars.[/QUOTE]
Dude to say that people are corrupt so we shouldn't spend money is silly. People are corrupt in the private industry or in the government so no matter where money is there will be problems. The thing is, building bridges for instance is something the government needs to do. Privatizing roads is one of the silliest ideas the modern libertarian has. There are some things the government needs to do for the people and thus the government needs money.

In all honesty I don't think the private sector or the government sector do their jobs well so I don't care where my money is being wasted tbh.

Also, lol @ the argument that young people only vote liberally because it's trendy. Once again evidence of the failure of conservatives to understand macro issues at work.

Finally, military spending mitigated the great depression because the government was spending lots of money and creating jobs. For everyone who is against government spending this is like a complete counter argument to your views...

okay look at it this way, you give a kid $40 for a pair of shoes

the kid spends it on weed, so you give the kid $80 so he can definitely get the shoes, comes back no shoes still, give the kid $120 maybe thatll fix it!
[QUOTE=Angmar;16814423]Your point is still wrong in saying that the War in Iraq is helping our economy, is this so hard to understand?[/QUOTE]
and actually ****, the iraqi war isnt even the main issue with our economy. its more from giving out loans to corporations that couldnt afford to pay them back and working with artificial interest rates.

but whatever you can re-spout the obama campaign all you want.

mappy is getting his girlish butt raped p hard today

Actually my points weren't related to the Obama campaign in any way but ok. :)

yeah mine weren't either **** off nonelite

[QUOTE=Ghoul Hunter;16814441]mappy is getting his girlish butt raped p hard today[/QUOTE]

not really at all, like in any capacity, but okay. i guess if youre liberal you are really really smart.

at least bobojason isnt here

then we'd all look like college professors

[QUOTE=Permanent Solution;16814436]Also, lol @ the argument that young people only vote liberally because it's trendy. Once again evidence of the failure of conservatives to understand macro issues at work.
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Out of curiosity, why do young people tend to vote liberally?

[QUOTE=Dimmu Burger;16814461]Out of curiosity, why do young people tend to vote liberally?[/QUOTE]

progressive thinking.

[QUOTE=Ghoul Hunter;16814457]at least bobojason isnt here

then we'd all look like college professors[/QUOTE]

or brian

man im so balzed but yo i read this book my karl marx holy **** u kids r dum

ever herd ahab?

That's what I thought.