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Angmar 10-28-2008 05:02 PM

I'm just regurgitating what I learn in gov class, my teacher is a very intelligent person and I trust what he says and based on the facts he's shown us I agree with him.

I still believe the rich should be taxed if it means benefiting to the lower income people.

AA-12 10-28-2008 05:02 PM

[QUOTE=hismajestythepope;16814127]you guys are missing the point, go to a low income area. people will complain like omg i cant afford dis i cant afford dat. but theyll be wearing timbaland boots and a bepe hoody, texting away on their sidekick while their homies smoking a blunt playing their new xbox 360.

MAAAN THA STRUGGLE YO.[/QUOTE]

this is called drug culture

hismajestythepope 10-28-2008 05:04 PM

go to a trailor park. go to center city.

wait you dont live in an industrial area you live in ****ing florida josh.

Permanent Solution 10-28-2008 05:04 PM

[QUOTE=pate;16814086]The rich already get taxes higher!

And in big cities, $250,000 doesn't make a person rich.



Again, there are other taxes.

He's going to heavily tax corporations. Guess what: Corporations don't pay taxes. They raise prices so we get to pay their taxes for them.



Capitalism = selfish

You work for what you have. If you don't work for anything, the government SHOULD NOT be handing you a fat check every month that came from a "rich" person's paycheck.


Rich people earned their money. Why should the government take it away?


And yes, I'm fine with the unemployment system as it is. I'm not talking about that.[/QUOTE]
Cutting taxes for the poor and raising taxes on the rich =/= taking money from the rich and giving it to the poor. The govenrnment doesn't send out checks to the poor with the rich people's money. They just take less of the poor's money and to compensate take more of the rich's.

As a (soon to be) wealthy person, I have no problem having less money in my pocket in order to allow others the ability to eat 3 meals a day and sleep under a roof without working 80 hours a week.

masada 10-28-2008 05:05 PM

poor people dont live in florida

McP3000 10-28-2008 05:05 PM

[QUOTE=Angmar;16814140]I'm just regurgitating what I learn in gov class, my teacher is a very intelligent person and I trust what he says and based on the facts he's shown us I agree with him.

I still believe the rich should be taxed if it means benefiting to the lower income people.[/QUOTE]
well wouldnt you know it, a high school teacher is liberal.

Not to mention that income taxes don't go towards redistribution, it goes to paying off debt. Not to mention that the government has no right to mandate the burden of one individual onto another individual.

I've always thought a flat tax would be a much more liberal concept, seeing as it creates everyone as an equal essentially, because they are...but when i met more hardcore liberals who understood tax law better i was disappointed to find that they are just as obsessed with money as republicans. They just go about it a different way.

Angmar 10-28-2008 05:06 PM

123 Vince.

McP3000 10-28-2008 05:07 PM

[QUOTE=Permanent Solution;16814153]Cutting taxes for the poor and raising taxes on the rich =/= taking money from the rich and giving it to the poor. The govenrnment doesn't send out checks to the poor with the rich people's money. They just take less of the poor's money and to compensate take more of the rich's.

As a (soon to be) wealthy person, I have no problem having less money in my pocket in order to allow others the ability to eat 3 meals a day and sleep under a roof without working 80 hours a week.[/QUOTE]
how are you rich if you're going to have less money

and how are you going to be rich anyway? Out of curiosity.

Angmar 10-28-2008 05:08 PM

It's not like the government is going to take all of your money, you'll still be wealthy, just not as wealthy as you were before, boohoo.

AA-12 10-28-2008 05:09 PM

[QUOTE=hismajestythepope;16814151]go to a trailor park. go to center city.

wait you dont live in an industrial area you live in ****ing florida josh.[/QUOTE]

i used to live in a ****** *** ghetto and have been involved in quite a few in general

Permanent Solution 10-28-2008 05:10 PM

[QUOTE=McP3000;16814161]how are you rich if you're going to have less money

and how are you going to be rich anyway? Out of curiosity.[/QUOTE]

Well if I make 100k and I pay 50% taxes, then I still take home as much as someone making 50k who pays no taxes. And neither of those scenarios are even close to reality.

Well consider that I'm 22 and have already gotten job offers that would land me as an individual in the top quartile of household incomes in the US and...

hismajestythepope 10-28-2008 05:10 PM

its not like lower class folk need more nike dunks either steve

McP3000 10-28-2008 05:10 PM

[QUOTE=Angmar;16814165]It's not like the government is going to take all of your money, you'll still be wealthy, just not as wealthy as you were before, boohoo.[/QUOTE]
i dont see how the amount of money has anything to do with the inherently immoral concept. You're thinking in very surface level terms.

Altmer 10-28-2008 05:10 PM

why are we talking about tax in the rock and metal thread on its 2000 page milestone

because there's always taxes and death

McP3000 10-28-2008 05:11 PM

[QUOTE=Permanent Solution;16814173]Well if I make 100k and I pay 50% taxes, then I still take home as much as someone making 50k who pays no taxes. And neither of those scenarios are even close to reality.[/quote]
I know its not a reality because that would be a horribly immoral thing for the government to do.

[quote]Well consider that I'm 22 and have already gotten job offers that would land me as an individual in the top quartile of household incomes in the US and...[/QUOTE]
That isn't rich. Rich is considered the top tax bracket which is in the 300k's i think. unless you wanna get sticky and talk about subjective definitions of being rich, but lets not.
But then again you're also in the top %1 of people under the age of 30 so congrats man. :P

Whats the job?

AA-12 10-28-2008 05:12 PM

[QUOTE=hismajestythepope;16814175]its not like lower class folk need more nike dunks either steve[/QUOTE]

god dammit

Angmar 10-28-2008 05:12 PM

[QUOTE=McP3000;16814177]i dont see how the amount of money has anything to do with the inherently immoral concept. You're thinking in very surface level terms.[/QUOTE]

I'm impressed by your impressive vocabulary!

Stormrider 10-28-2008 05:13 PM

wow steve, and you laugh at silverfang for replying **** like that

McP3000 10-28-2008 05:13 PM

[QUOTE=Angmar;16814186]I'm impressed by your impressive vocabulary![/QUOTE]
erm what

Altmer 10-28-2008 05:14 PM

the highly evocative use of eloquent passages makes this conversation a pleasure to process auditorily.

McP3000 10-28-2008 05:15 PM

[QUOTE=Altmer;16814191]the highly evocative use of eloquent passages makes this conversation a pleasure to process auditorily.[/QUOTE]
hey you know how to use a thesaurus too

Angmar 10-28-2008 05:15 PM

I know what those words mean, but I really don't get what his point is tbh!

masada 10-28-2008 05:15 PM

np joanna newsom

McP3000 10-28-2008 05:15 PM

what dont you understand steve

Altmer 10-28-2008 05:15 PM

[QUOTE=McP3000;16814192]hey you know how to use a thesaurus too[/QUOTE]

problem is that was off the top of my head

AA-12 10-28-2008 05:16 PM

steve why are we the only smart people on mx?

its so lonely :( :( :(

RiceMonster 10-28-2008 05:17 PM

Posting on mx lowers your IQ

Angmar 10-28-2008 05:17 PM

What the hell is thinking on surface terms suppose to [B]f[/B]ucking mean.

Altmer 10-28-2008 05:18 PM

you have a shallow mind

you must broaden your horizons and deepen your bottoms

Angmar 10-28-2008 05:19 PM

****


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