As far as today's Hippies go, or generally bohemians outside of the musical world, I usually have problems with.

Unless you're the Dude, you should have some form of job, like Illmatic said.

i agree ^.

[QUOTE=pigonthewing82]What about Ghandi or better yet the thousands upon thousands of protesters, they arn't running.[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't relate hippies and Ghandi. Ghandi had a lot more goin' on ;).

Who says that not having a job is a prerequisite for being a hippie? I don't consider this to be so. How else do they buy their hemp jewelry-making supplies?

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I got Lawn boy the other day. It's pretty sweet. I think I like it better than Hoist :)


As for hippies themselves, I don't see what's wrong with not taking life seriously. Not everyone has to have a job and work for the man or else they're useless.

[QUOTE=Badmoon]I wouldn't relate hippies and Ghandi. Ghandi had a lot more goin' on ;).[/QUOTE]


Yeah, but a lot of the concepts hippies follow are based on Ghandi. I used him as an example because he is the best example of how peaceful protest can be just as effective as war, except nobody gets murdered.

[QUOTE=pigonthewing82]What about Ghandi or better yet the thousands upon thousands of protesters, they arn't running.[/QUOTE]

Gandhi is not a hippy. Wash your mouth out with soap. That's like saying Martin Luther King is a hippy.

Hippies do not devote their lives to helping the well-being of their countrymen. They devote their lives to doing drugs and going to Grateful Dead shows.

[QUOTE=Illmatic] doing drugs and going to Grateful Dead shows.[/QUOTE]

I see nothing wrong here :) :smoke: :'dead:

[QUOTE=Walrus Gumboot]I think I like hippies more than any other social clique in my school. They don't treat people like **** (generally) and would never call anyone a poser, which is the worst thing you can do. Did I mention I was raised by them and have no choice but to become one myself?[/QUOTE]

Truth. I consider myself a bit of a hippy, except for the :smoke: part.

I wish I was raised by hippies. I just hang out with them at school.

[QUOTE=Illmatic]Gandhi is not a hippy. Wash your mouth out with soap. That's like saying Martin Luther King is a hippy.

Hippies do not devote their lives to helping the well-being of their countrymen. They devote their lives to doing drugs and going to Grateful Dead shows.[/QUOTE]

I was using Gandhi as an example because his peaceful protests are an example of what a big part of being a hippie is. Anybody can take drugs and go to a concert thats NOT a hippie. What it is about is being the counter culture to as they call it "the man". Hippies were created because they didn't like what our government was doing and chose to break off from it. They did try to change things through things like protest, and some protests drew a lot of public awarness to many problems. I have no probelm to if you don't like hippies, thats your thing, but to say the are cowards who run from their problems is not true. Just because you choose to defend your belifes through peaceful protest rather then violence does not make you a coward.

Hippies are all about love, maaaaaaaan. I've never met a hippy that was an *** hole (of course I only know about 4, but they're nice people who will help you out when you need it).

You're really stretching the definition here.

Martin Luther King and Gandhi chose to defend their beliefs peacefully. All hippies did was run away from society.

[QUOTE=Illmatic]You're really stretching the definition here.

Martin Luther King and Gandhi chose to defend their beliefs peacefully. All hippies did was run away from society.[/QUOTE]

They created a group of protestors. Running away from society doesn't involve college kids being killed in riots on campus. The protested what they didn't believe in. They aren't cowards, they choose to protest a war they didn't support, and for good reasons.

There's a difference between protesting a war and being a bum who doesn't do anything else with their life.

[QUOTE=Illmatic]There's a difference between protesting a war and being a bum who doesn't do anything else with their life.[/QUOTE]

Not all hippies are bums who don't do anything. They were created to protest a war, that's where the group came from. You hate people that lie around and do nothing but smoke pot or whatever, thats fine. But that really isn't even what a hippie is.

I don't see what's wrong with doing nothing with your life. It's their choice and if they don't like society, they shouldn't have to get a job, be a working shill, start a family and have to answer to other people. That's not being cowardly, they prefer that kind of lifestyle.

Then shouldn't the term--and group--have died out after the Vietnam War ended?

[QUOTE=RNR]I don't see what's wrong with doing nothing with your life. It's their choice and if they don't like society, they shouldn't have to get a job, be a working shill, start a family and have to answer to other people.[/QUOTE]

Just like how they shouldn't not get a job and then be a burden to their friends and family.

not to get off subject, but do you think the beatles are considered classic rock?

As far as I'm concernered, that which makes one a hippie is their taste in music and how they dress and their principles. Whether or not they have a job or get stoned all the time, or are cowards are just details
Maybe having been raised around responsible adult hippies makes me have a different point of view on the subject

[QUOTE=Dr. Killgreedy]not to get off subject, but do you think the beatles are considered classic rock?[/QUOTE]

Yeah, they're definitely considered classic rock. I'm a big fan.

oh ok just wondering, personally i couldnt care for 'em.

[QUOTE=Illmatic]Then shouldn't the term--and group--have died out after the Vietnam War ended?.[/QUOTE]

No because war has gone on since, and our government has still done things worthy of protest. It wasn't just the war they were fighting for, it was the fact that everybody has the right to live life in peace with out fear of being attacked by a bigger country, or burdened by unfair practices or laws brought on by there own government.

Well then clearly they have lost their way since then.

The hippy movement started in protest of the vietnam war. Now that the war is over, some would say that they've lost their way, I don't think so though. If there's a stupid thing that the government is doing, you better believe hippies will protest it! Usually it's polution or logging or some sort of earth hurting thing that the old hippies protest now.

[QUOTE=Illmatic]Well then clearly they have lost their way since then.[/QUOTE]

I think the they you are referring to are the people who claim they are hippies because hippie things like tie die, hackey sack, and other hippish things have become trendy. There is a huge difference between those who are doing it to be trendy and those who belive in it. Those who belive in it are the ones who still take activism against things our government does such as all the protests that went on when the war broke out, or the people in organizations such as moveon.org. I mean its true the resistance isn't as big as it was during the 60's but its still there.

See, I think the problem here is that I don't think all protestors are hippies and I don't think all hippies are protestors; clearly we are not on the same page here.

I'll bet my high school has more hippies than 98% of other public schools. There are just so many.
In fact, it is considered completely normal to play a digeridoo, guitar, ukulele or harmonica in a hallway between bells, or on occasion all four, together during study halls

at my college there are several hippies who sit out on the benches w/ martin acoustics who are just goin at it w/ grateful dead tunes and ill sit down and bust out my ibanez electric/acoustic and play mostly steve miller songs or some jimi hendrix. i sit down and learn from them to see what their opinions are but they seem so spaced out so i just sit and jam and wonder what the hell they are on. they dont really do much for me so thats my opinion of hippies.

Did anyone else see the page that is completely n00bs?