lovecraft is #2. mccarthy is just amazing. blood meridian is the greatest piece of literature ever graced upon paper.

ill have to give him a good read

his style is incredible. its like reading forum posts by somebody who actually has something interesting to say, theres no punctuation, sentences can be an entire paragraph long, and theres no quotations or 'he said' and 'she said's. sounds like itd be a chore (or bore) to read but my god is it ever the opposite.

**** tolkien, nobody describes landscapes better than mccarthy

its fantasy, but have you read the song of ice and fire series

**** is seriously amazing, george r r martin is (at least in terms of construction of plot) one of the best authors ive ever read

[QUOTE=Nepenthe;17732996]you couldnt pay me any amount of money to read through an entire jaundice book[/QUOTE]

:lol:

i don't think the average person could handle a jaundice book , it's like a jaundice post but a thousand times worse

and yeah pretty sure 120 Days of Sodom is the best piece ever written, this is established

[QUOTE=illmitch;17733010]its fantasy, but have you read the song of ice and fire series

**** is seriously amazing, george r r martin is (at least in terms of construction of plot) one of the best authors ive ever read[/QUOTE]

i've been chipping away at the graphic novel I downloaded ages back

its really good

i think Haz is the only one here who can claim to have read Jaundice fiction

that was for school though so it was kind of like a pop single to get airplay

i'm what you might call a camp appreciator though I imagine some other people may have been a little more critical

no the only fantasy ive ever read is salvatore and a few random dragonlance books when i was like 11. tried to read tolkien but i just cannot stand the constant pointless allusions. my main gripe with fantasy is how focused on, like you said about that guy, plot and the construction of plot. its all about yknow 'whats going on' or what the main event of action is and follows such contrived structures.

[url]http://news.ansible.co.uk/plotdev.html[/url]

i think this is a pretty good deconstruction of the worst of fantasy cliches even if it is a little long and written by a complete snob

[QUOTE=Nepenthe;17733024]no the only fantasy ive ever read is salvatore and a few random dragonlance books when i was like 11. tried to read tolkien but i just cannot stand the constant pointless allusions. my main gripe with fantasy is how focused on, like you said about that guy, plot and the construction of plot. its all about yknow 'whats going on' or what the main event of action is and follows such contrived structures.[/QUOTE]

yeah salvatore and dragonlance are the worst of formulaic fantasy

well, they're not the worst, but they're the standard to which formulaic fantasy aspires

i would give the first book of a song of ice and fire a try. it's seriously amazing. the characters are incredible. you just get sucked into them.

i just prefer books with pages of metaphor riddled landscape descriptions and philosophical ramblings with only a very loose narrative or plot.

[QUOTE]Describing events of extreme violence, McCarthy's prose is sparse yet expansive, with an often biblical quality and frequent religious references. The book features McCarthy's unusual writing style; there are, for example, many unusual or archaic words, no quotation marks for dialogue, and no apostrophes to signal some contractions. The media-shy McCarthy has not granted interviews regarding the novel, leaving the work open to interpretation.

Blood Meridian is a dense, sometimes difficult novel that demands close attention. Even characters are labeled throughout the plot in multiple ways, for example, by their real names, nicknames, and descriptive titles, making it difficult to keep track of who is whom. Additionally, there are large numbers of references to real-life historical, religious or mystical concepts, events, or persons. John Emil Sepich's Notes on Blood Meridian was the first examination of the novel's sources, their context and significance. Additional books and articles have also examined McCarthy's sources for the novel.[/QUOTE]

thats what books should be like

mitch: yeah my friend was telling me i needed to read that series a couple years back. saying same thing you are like 'its not generic fantasy ****' and whatnot. ill pick up a copy the next time i go to barnes and noble to restock on books.

so the literary equivalent of hipster black metal

seriously asoiaf is unreal

[QUOTE=illmitch;17733036]so the literary equivalent of hipster black metal[/QUOTE]

answers the question of why i like it so much

two-dimensional characters or gtfo

whats some good cormac mccarthy to start out with

my roommate has the road

[QUOTE=illmitch;17733045]whats some good cormac mccarthy to start out with

my roommate has the road[/QUOTE]get his split with shitstorm

the road is the easiest to digest. its like his pop radio single. doesnt mean its not good though, in fact its quite excellent. but blood meridian is definitely his greatest work, the epitome of all that is great about his work. child of god is excellent as well, my second favorite of his. either of those is a good place to start. cant go wrong with no country for old men either, but id def get blood meridian or child of god first.

[QUOTE]its like his pop radio single. [/QUOTE]original wording

[QUOTE]Though the novel received critical praise, it was not a financial success. Like its predecessor, Outer Dark, Child of God established McCarthy's interest in using extreme isolation, perversity, and violence to represent normal human experience. McCarthy ignores literary conventions — for example, he does not use quotation marks — and chops and changes among several styles of writing such as matter-of-fact descriptions, almost poetic prose, and colloquial first-person narration (with the speaker remaining unidentified).

Set in mountainous Sevier County, Tennessee, Child of God tells the story of Lester Ballard, a dispossessed, violent man whom the narrator describes as "a child of God much like yourself perhaps." Ballard's life is a disastrous attempt to exist outside the social order. Successively deprived of parents and homes and with few other ties, Ballard descends literally and figuratively to the level of a cave dweller as he falls deeper into crime and degradation.[/QUOTE]

thats child of god in a nutshell. its more psychological while blood meridian is more descriptive and philosophical.

jaundice youd like child of god theres necrophilia and pedophilia in it

[QUOTE]jaundice youd like child of god theres necrophilia and pedophilia in it[/QUOTE]

*immediately diverts attention*

its used tastefully

i'm not sure why you'd assume a book with necrophilia and pedophilia in it would appeal to me

and not having quotation marks is a hipster cliche

thought sexual deviancy was your bag bro

considering mccarthy was not using quotation marks in the early 70s id say he was a little ahead of the hipster curve. child of god came out in 73.

jaundice would like stephen kings IT too theres a child gangbang sequence

[quote=Nepenthe;17733061]its used tastefully[/quote]

guess i would have to read it to fully understand how that works

mccarthy is basically faulkner 2.0

[QUOTE=Nepenthe;17733065]thought sexual deviancy was your bag bro

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i like my depravity to be sincere. i don't want to hear some nerd discuss it on some sort of intellectual level and use it as a plot device when in actual life they've never experienced it and are repulsed by it

[QUOTE]jaundice would like stephen kings IT too theres a child gangbang sequence[/QUOTE]read this in middle school , didn't care for it.

[QUOTE=Jaundice;17733070]i like my depravity to be sincere. i don't want to hear some nerd discuss it on some sort of intellectual level and use it as a plot device when in actual life they've never experienced it and are repulsed by it[/QUOTE]

whats wrong with nerds