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JCBitB 04-29-2010 01:00 PM

Hoegaarden rocks! Every time someone talks about Blue Moon (which is also pretty good) I show them that beer. I'm not really a beer guy, but that's good stuff

nick911sc 04-29-2010 01:02 PM

finishing up school

just figured I'd stop by and say hi

no time for forums really anymore haha

purple_hazer 04-29-2010 02:32 PM

whats the schooling for?

JoshIsNumber3 04-29-2010 02:41 PM

[QUOTE=Left Face Down;17955092]Spending money in my head that I don't have yet and wishing that the job market still didn't bite no matter how much Obama tells me we are out of economic troubles.


Sup with you?[/QUOTE]

Yeah, because it's only Obama talking about consumer confidence coming back and capital starting to build again in the business sector of the country.

You are a moron.

Left Face Down 04-29-2010 02:46 PM

Talk to me when unemployement starts going down Josh. If people don't have jobs (like me) we really could care less how well wall street is doing.

Bruce E Kinesis 04-29-2010 03:12 PM

TBH i'm not even convinced Obama is a liar, he's just smart enough to know when to STFU

Blue_Moon 04-29-2010 03:16 PM

i seen a car today driving around a car park with an obama sticker on the back

what a douche

jaklyons 04-29-2010 03:27 PM

[QUOTE=Left Face Down;17955291]If people don't have jobs (like me) we really [B]could[/B] care less how well wall street is doing.[/QUOTE]

*couldn't

JoshIsNumber3 04-29-2010 03:27 PM

[QUOTE=Left Face Down;17955291]Talk to me when unemployement starts going down Josh. If people don't have jobs (like me) we really could care less how well wall street is doing.[/QUOTE]

People who believe that unemployment is the reason the economy is poor do not have a well grounded understanding in what caused and sustained the recession. And to believe even more that unemployment would turn around when the economy has been revitalized is even more laughable. Current levels of unemployment are due to the restructuring of the work force in the United States, from a manufacturing/producing sector to a service based industry. Why is this the case? Because many of the manufacturing and producing jobs were shipped out of the country due to the fact that cheaper labor leads to higher company revenue. It is a purely capitalistic system but not in a way that benefits American workers. What you have left is a dwindling manufacturing sector in the country with an education system that is in no way prepared for educating/re-educating enough people quickly enough to get ready for the growing service industry. Where does that leave the country? With a surplus of skilled workers with no demand to use them. Now that companies have sacrificed industry for cheap labor, you have a large pool of people who will have sustained unemployment because of the value of a cheaper worker over one that demands a living wage. What does this have for the future? Well, the industries that have exported their factories over seas have done nothing but train those countries' citizens to do their work at a very high, efficient level. Do you think these workers or the children of these workers will be satisfied in the working conditions they have now? Absolutely not. What you will see is a growing industrial sector in these 2nd world countries which are beginning to industrialize themselves. So, in the interest of supporting the "burgeoning global capitalist economy" and exporting their businesses else where, American companies have done nothing but 1) eliminate the market for the American worker, and 2) Provide the information and technology necessary to start the industrialization of second world countries, creating a work force that is superior to that of the American industrial worker.

But that's wasted information on people like you who are comfortable in your vast ignorance as long as it justifies your misleadings.


And then to go, hur dur when will someone give me a job when all you do is post on here? It's ineffable.

JCBitB 04-29-2010 03:33 PM

[QUOTE=Bruce E Kinesis;17955323]he's just smart enough to know when to STFU[/QUOTE]

If only he'd shut up completely... I get a headache when I hear him explain to me that a law making it illegal to be an [i]illegal[/i] immigrant goes against the American idea of fairness. I'm sure there's more than a few folks who waited years for legal citizenship that disagree as well.

Bruce E Kinesis 04-29-2010 03:45 PM

TBH the dude has a PhD in law; you can blame your education system for his having to talk down to 'y'all'

JoshIsNumber3 04-29-2010 03:49 PM

b-but he is brown

JCBitB 04-29-2010 04:27 PM

Except that he's "talking down" because an oversimplification is the only way his statements fly. He [b]can't[/b] go deeper into why it's fair to knowingly allow (and hence [i]encourage[/i]) illegal immigrants to stay here when folks have to spend years (and $$$) on a waiting list trying to do it the [i]right[/i] way.

He keeps it simple so folks can keep imagining this is a fight against brown skin and he doesn't actually have to dance around new ways to imply it, and distract folks from the fact that this is a battle thats already been fought and decided. We aren't talking about unethical immigration are we?! Arizona had to protect itself from [i]illegal[/i] immigration because our federal government refuses to act on laws already on the books.

If B.O. thinks labeling certain types of immigrants "illegal" is racist, he's got a new war to wage and a law to repeal, but until then he should stop picking and choosing which laws to enforce.

purple_hazer 04-29-2010 05:42 PM

[QUOTE=JoshIsNumber3;17955349]People who believe that unemployment is the reason the economy is poor do not have a well grounded understanding in what caused and sustained the recession. And to believe even more that unemployment would turn around when the economy has been revitalized is even more laughable. Current levels of unemployment are due to the restructuring of the work force in the United States, from a manufacturing/producing sector to a service based industry. [B]Why is this the case?[/B] Because many of the manufacturing and producing jobs were shipped out of the country due to the fact that cheaper labor leads to higher company revenue. It is a purely capitalistic system but not in a way that benefits American workers. What you have left is a dwindling manufacturing sector in the country with an education system that is in no way prepared for educating/re-educating enough people quickly enough to get ready for the growing service industry. [B]Where does that leave the country?[/B] With a surplus of skilled workers with no demand to use them. Now that companies have sacrificed industry for cheap labor, you have a large pool of people who will have sustained unemployment because of the value of a cheaper worker over one that demands a living wage. [B]What does this have for the future? [/B]Well, the industries that have exported their factories over seas have done nothing but train those countries' citizens to do their work at a very high, efficient level. Do you think these workers or the children of these workers will be satisfied in the working conditions they have now? Absolutely not. What you will see is a growing industrial sector in these 2nd world countries which are beginning to industrialize themselves. So, in the interest of supporting the "burgeoning global capitalist economy" and exporting their businesses else where, American companies have done nothing but 1) eliminate the market for the American worker, and 2) Provide the information and technology necessary to start the industrialization of second world countries, creating a work force that is superior to that of the American industrial worker.

But that's wasted information on people like you who are comfortable in your vast ignorance as long as it justifies your misleadings.


And then to go, hur dur when will someone give me a job when all you do is post on here? It's ineffable.[/QUOTE]

i wasnt going to ask those questions at all dick

JoshIsNumber3 04-29-2010 06:14 PM

[QUOTE=purple_hazer;17955522]i wasnt going to ask those questions at all dick[/QUOTE]

Why I oughtta!

Left Face Down 04-29-2010 07:07 PM

[QUOTE=JoshIsNumber3;17955349]
But that's wasted information on people like you who are comfortable in your vast ignorance as long as it justifies your misleadings.


And then to go, hur dur when will someone give me a job when all you do is post on here? It's ineffable.[/QUOTE]

Hur dur I did go to college for 5 1/2 years and get not one, but two Bachelors degrees in fields of Engineering and a minor in Mathematics.


Also, and take a picture if you want, but I AGREE with what you said and know that American business have been exporting jobs to foreign countries for a while now. I remember that being a topic when Clinton was the President. The thing is, my field isn't one of those majorly hurt by that and the economy is what hurt my field.

With that said. If you don't think the economic downfall in recent years had no part, let alone a big part, in the massive unemployment we currently see then you are off your rocker.



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So about those Compression/Sustain pedals... tried out the BOSS CS-3 and the MXR Dyna Comp today. Neither of which are true-bypass I believe, but the BOSS is by no means where the Dyna Comp wasn't that bad. I still felt kind of limited with the two knobs though. I liked the features of the BOSS, hated how it colored the tone way too much. With the MXR it was kind of a, why would I pay money just for this?

Blue_Moon 04-29-2010 08:32 PM

i like my marshall ed-1 a good few features and tru bypass, + pretty cheap

motogrifo 04-29-2010 10:48 PM

ITT: josh

AG 04-30-2010 01:04 AM

Can any of the americans explain why Canada completely rapes you in terms of employment and safety? You're pretty much the same country, so why is Canada so much better?

Left Face Down 04-30-2010 01:16 AM

Lack of Mexicans?


Well, in terms of safety they factor in badly but employment they should help if they are legals. My damn safety teacher lectured for like two days how workers born in Mexico who come here (legally or illegally) often can't read/speak English well enough to understand our safety manuals or people telling them verbally. Also a lot of them can't even read Spanish apparently. Either that or my Safety teacher is not only crazy but stupid; cause he was crazy.

Bruce E Kinesis 04-30-2010 03:37 AM

[QUOTE=Left Face Down;17956086]Lack of Mexicans?
[/QUOTE]

/facepalm

AG: It's because they're more british

AG 04-30-2010 04:41 AM

Ahh. I really badly wanna move OOOT there.

/canada accent impression

But the wifey wants to be near family. Pah, family schmamily.

Bruce E Kinesis 04-30-2010 04:49 AM

why not shoot her

AG 04-30-2010 06:31 AM

Because of the love, dawg.

Squirrel 04-30-2010 10:33 AM

They probably won't let you settle there anyway AG.

What is your degree in?

JoshIsNumber3 04-30-2010 11:02 AM

[QUOTE=AG;17956073]Can any of the americans explain why Canada completely rapes you in terms of employment and safety? You're pretty much the same country, so why is Canada so much better?[/QUOTE]

Culture, lack of anti-science rhetoric, importance of education, fewer fundamental wackos, no LFD in your country.

lmao lfds thinly veiled xenophobia

Squirrel 04-30-2010 11:17 AM

canada is a pretty sweet place i hope to end up there to settle

america seems nice but, i really hate to generalise, american people annoy me/are annoying/are vastly different/are remarkably stubborn about not understading anything remotely not american

purple_hazer 04-30-2010 11:42 AM

[QUOTE=Squirrel;17956624]canada is a pretty sweet place i hope to end up there to settle

america seems nice but,[B] i really hate to generalise[/B], american people annoy me/are annoying/are vastly different/are remarkably stubborn about not understading anything remotely not american[/QUOTE]

its cool, it seems the majority here definately falls under all that

Squirrel 04-30-2010 11:53 AM

i'm suretheres countless lovely americans, just like anywhere, if you find the right people

but my experience and exposure to the general population of the US has only really shown me incredibly ignorant people with no cencept of any otehr cultures, beliefs, activites etc that arent their own

to the point where theyre literally baffled by simple things

Squirrel 04-30-2010 11:58 AM

also their general disability to differentiate between then and than pisses me off immensely

Left Face Down 04-30-2010 12:29 PM

No one can take a joke can they in this thread? How about this, which would be the seriousness behind the joke. Canada knows how to secure their borders and has means in place so that only legal citizens get jobs; unlike the U.S.


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Blue_Moon: it would see the Marshall pedals aren't sold in the states. At least the four U.S. web sites that I know don't have them and 2/3 of the stores (didn't call the third) in my area have never heard of them.


SBT: You have an ESP LP style guitar right? What you think of it? When I get rid of my RG570 I'm thinking about getting an LP style guitar w/ Mahogany body. Playing on a LTD EC-400 (I believe) yesterday in GC and it was good compared to my former encounters. They have two, and the other one the low E string has no sense of staying in tune. This one however did stay in tune. I can't find it on their web site, but it had Seymour Duncan Designed pickups which were meh. Though It was $650 and looks like a viable competitor to the PRS SE Singlecut ($600) I was previously checking out.

Blue_Moon 04-30-2010 12:31 PM

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJuNgBkloFE[/url]

Left Face Down 04-30-2010 12:46 PM

[QUOTE=Blue_Moon;17956692][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJuNgBkloFE[/url][/QUOTE]

Where do they find these people? O.K. I didn't know wtf the Coalition of the Willing was, but the rest I knew.


WTF @ dude putting a flag on Australia thinking it was France. ROFLMAO

Blue_Moon 04-30-2010 01:07 PM

yeah the iran for austraia thing was the best...

Bruce E Kinesis 04-30-2010 01:36 PM

[QUOTE=Left Face Down;17956691]Canada knows how to secure their borders and has means in place so that only legal citizens get jobs; unlike the U.S.
[/QUOTE]

I could get a work permit for canada if i tried properly but I'd have to win an american one in a lottery

The Transporter 04-30-2010 01:44 PM

[quote=Left Face Down;17956691]
SBT: You have an ESP LP style guitar right? What you think of it? When I get rid of my RG570 I'm thinking about getting an LP style guitar w/ Mahogany body. Playing on a LTD EC-400 (I believe) yesterday in GC and it was good compared to my former encounters. They have two, and the other one the low E string has no sense of staying in tune. This one however did stay in tune. I can't find it on their web site, but it had Seymour Duncan Designed pickups which were meh. Though It was $650 and looks like a viable competitor to the PRS SE Singlecut ($600) I was previously checking out.[/quote]
I have an ESP Eclipse-II and my co-guitarist has an LTD EC-1000. Both are elite. EMGs aren't too bad on cleans, especially with reverb or delay

AG 04-30-2010 01:50 PM

[QUOTE=Squirrel;17956561]What is your degree in?[/QUOTE]

Media, Communications and Cultural studies. It's a pretty desirable degree in the UK atm but I dunno about the rest of the world.

And I have another in Music Performance and Media Management, which is a joke really.

Bruce E Kinesis 04-30-2010 03:11 PM

What sort of jobs can you go into with that?

purple_hazer 04-30-2010 03:26 PM

making bootleg rifles

Crapdragoon 04-30-2010 03:30 PM

making bootleg bootlegs


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