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shane italian 12-04-2004 02:48 PM

Nah, they played last week with Internal Affairs. It was on a weekday though :(

CONNER_NWHC 12-04-2004 03:26 PM

There playing here on wensday, I will go if im aloud.

D0dg3r (NL) 12-04-2004 03:28 PM

I haven't read the whole topic [it's way too big. :P], but I've been reorganizing my music lately [I haven't done too much yet], and I was wondering how you guys would 'label' the following bands:

36 Crazyfists
A Static Lullaby - I was thinking about Emo Hardcore [does that even exist ?],
Alexisonfire - I was thinking about Metalcore.
Funeral for a Friend - I was thinking about Post Hardcore.

I'll ask a couple of other bands next time, when I reorganized more stuff, if you guys can help me out.

[B][EDIT] I forgot about Hawthorne Heights... [EDIT][/B]

Let's Chop Cats! 12-04-2004 03:39 PM

[QUOTE=cbmartinez][url=http://www.purevolume.com/pallasathena]Pallas Athena[/url]

They're a cool hardcore/indie from around here. I suggest "Get Rid Of It Now" first, but listen all of them. "The Problem" is weird at first but it gets very good.

[url=http://www.purevolume.com/nohollywoodending]No Hollywood Ending[/url]

Cool metalcore/hardcore band with synths. Check out "Nice Arms" first.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=cbmartinez]Woo, I'm on a bandfinding streak.

[url=http://www.purevolume.com/graylinesofperfection]Gray Lines of Perfection[/url]

These guys are really good. Metalcore/Emocore. Check them out.

[url=http://www.purevolume.com/thedeadseason]The Dead Season[/url]

Another great one. Metalcore, sounds like early PTW. I really urge you guys to check them out.

[url=http://www.purevolume.com/breatheyesmemory].breath.eyes.memory.[/url]

Cool emocore/metalcore/indie. Another good band.

[url=http://www.purevolume.com/sakitasarra]Sakita Sarra[/url][/quote]
AHhH!! Most of those bands suck. NHE has the worst crowd in the world, the people are effing retarded.

D0dg3r (NL) 12-04-2004 04:04 PM

Oh, and I forgot about A Wilhelm Scream... I was thinking about Melodic Hardcore... Am I right ?

NewKindofArmy03 12-04-2004 04:10 PM

[QUOTE=Sk8SkaNJ]AHhH!! Most of those bands suck. NHE has the worst crowd in the world, the people are effing retarded.[/QUOTE]
Word, I really hate that generic metalcore that has those soft slow parts in every song they do. They all have the worst fans too.

CONNER_NWHC 12-04-2004 04:30 PM

How to be hardcore.
 
1) Be tough at all times.
2) Never cheer after a show, only clap.
3) Be open minded in a "punch people" kind of way
4) Only the good hardcore bands have names that are sentences with bad grammar. Boy Hits Car, Boy Sets Fire, Skycamefalling, Boy Sets Car-fire.
5) Ankles are tough so bring your socks down into your shoes so we can see them.
6) Tattoos are tough especially when they are on your calves. See Rule 5 on how to see said tattoo more clearly.
7) Wear your hoody in the mosh pit because sweating like a wild pig makes you look tough.
Don't admit you listen to heavy metal.
9) (Exception to rule Only admit you listen to heavy metal if you think it is ironic and you wear 80's cheese metal shirts.
10) Be a non-conformist, just like all your friends.
11) Practice hardcore dancing in front of your mirror and then try them out the next time Atreyu comes to town.
12) A hardcore band is only original if you call it something-core.
Example Screamcore, emocore, Screamocore, mathcore, or Medio-core.
13) Remember, it's fun to punch and kick kung fu style.
14) Keep it in the do-jo.
15) Real hardcore fans are called kids.
16) Complain how hardcore bands are playing with metal bands at all costs!
17) Have your own zine, website, production company or be in a band.
Claim you are friends with the singer from Shai Hulud.
18) Tell people you work in the music industry.
19) More Ankles people!
20) Embrace everybody in the scene except for those people who are not you.
21) Refer to bands as old school or new school then act tough again.
22) Pretend that you get Dillinger Escape Plan.
23) Shop at second hand stores and then go buy expensive shoes.
24) Beat people up and then go to bible study class.
25) Smoking and drinking and having sex before marriage is too trendy. Real hardcore tough guys abstain.
26) Whatever you do, don't let the singer on stage ever sing in the mic. Make sure you grab it from him and sing in it yourself, after all, you do a better job singing then him. It's a wonder they didn't put you on the album.
27) Start your own hardcore band.
28) Have your logo resemble some random 80's product for nostalgia.
29) Talk about the scene any chance you get. Say as many obscure hardcore bands from NJ as possible.
30) If you are shy start an emo band so you don't have to look at the audience.
31) People who know more bands than you are better than you.
32) Add the Letter X before and after important words. XhardcorekidX Xmosh****X
33) Never say "Did you hear the new Strung Out?" Unless you are attempting to be funny in which case stop it because hardcore kids are tough not funny.
34) It's merch not Merchandise.
35) Hardcore girls must wear head bands at all times.
36) Stretch your ears out to look more intimidating.
37) The bigger you stretch your ears out the more hardcore you are.
38) Your ear should be stretched out enough to accommodate a block of wood, a hubcap or a *****.
39) People in the front row are best used as a ladder/staircase to reach your goal... steal the mic away from the singer.
40) When people ask you if you like a band always say "I only like the old stuff" or "I haven't really gotten into the new stuff."
41) Buy all of that bands merch.
42) Wear your new merch at the next hardcore show.
43) Repeat steps 41 and 42
44) If you have to wear glasses make sure they are thick, black framed ones.
45.) Don't tell anybody but make sure you try on your new vintage clothes and stud belt before heading out to see Poison the well.
46) Never admit you don't like Hatebreed and go see them live 12 times a year.
47) Complain that they are playing with Slayer but don't admit you actually like Slayer.
48) Complain at all costs.
49) Tag team hardcore dancing is cool
50) Real hardcore kids are really struggling photographers.
51) You don't go to hardcore concerts, you go to hardcore shows. BIG difference.
52) Name your hardcore dance moves things like "The mother ****"
or "kick that guys *** move" or better yet... stay home and cry.
53) Protect your body from swinging limbs by sacrificing your two arms.
54) Scream about love.
55) All age venues are important so you are not tempted to drink.
56) Claim you know a guy who knows a guy whose best friend was standing next to the guy who got his *** kicked during Converge.
Bash the hardcore scene and then go see The Get Up Kids.
57) Anytime somebody mentions a band always say you know somebody in the band.
58) Wear your pins with honour! Shai Hulud, American Nightmare, Minor Threat and the purple heart of valour.
59) Velcro shoes are cool.
60) Don't admit that you have a crush on the singer from Walls of Jericho. If somebody asks, say you respect her as a musician only.
61) Your band name should contain one of the following words: Blood, Murder, Kill, Victim and butterfly.
62) Print your band name as if it was on a bad printing press.
Actual graphics are for posers.
63) Sleep on a portrait painted prettier then everyone.
64) 100 bands from around the world to play in your city. All of them are the world's best hardcore bands. Every label represented, every hardcore genre present. The venue is the best all-ages venue in the world. Tickets are $1.00. It is your job to go around saying the festival should be free.
65) Record producers must make sure to pump the mid because mid is tough.
66) Re-issue your demos after every album.
67) When the band starts playing everybody join hands and make a big circle so we can watch the big kids play.
68) Crying on stage makes you a professional.
69) Complain some more.
70) Album covers must be made at home on Photoshop by your good friend.
71) If you are from New York NEVER smile in a promo pic. In fact always try to cross your arms and look into the camera as if you are going to beat up whom ever is looking.
72) If you are from New Jersey NEVER smile in a promo pic either. In fact try to look like you just lost your girl friend to the hardcore band from New York.
73) Never admit that Emo is Country music lyrics mixed with pop rock riffs and marketed by 17 year olds trying to make their friend be the next Dashboard Confessional.
74) American Idol is your worst enemy. (But you voted for Ruben)
75) You can get away with glitter on your face as long as your stretched ear plugs are clear.
76) **** beer, Got breast milk?
77) Bandanas are cool.
78) Bandanas with big X on them are cooler.
79) Bandanas with big X on them were cool last week you poser.
80) Your best friend is a guy named XattackX from Jersey who you chat with on MSN everyday. He is coming to see you one day. Really.
81) Chunky breakdowns in your songs are original and you should continue to do them despite every other band doing them which is clearly a rip off of your band.
82) Judge other bands and always compare them to the socio-cultural effects of the band Integrity.
83) Look up Socio-cultural in the dictionary and then get offended.
84) Green Day is the real reason you are still alive.
85) Describe your group of friends as "the scene" and then watch bootlegs of last weeks
86) Obey the laws of the hardcore scene or forever be banished from the circle.
87) When somebody asks you what is hardcore respond with "I am hardcore" then punch somebody in the face for looking at you wrong.
88) Keep punching
89) Kick a little too
90) Punch
91) Add a threat about their mother for good measure.
92) Pretend you are won the fight then pickup your dismembered left arm.
93) You are wearing the same thing as the 40-year old gas pump attendant but for some strange mystical reason you are cooler than he is.
94) Tell everybody that Trustkill Records are too trendy.
95) Did you stop acting tough? I saw you hug that teddy bear.
96) Pierce you **** and tattoo your body.
97) Straight bangs means straight-edge
98) Being vegan means you can't swallow sperm.
99) When in doubt Mock everything
100) Take everything personally.
101) Start a "gang"
102) Assume this list is about you

Let's Chop Cats! 12-04-2004 04:40 PM

I didn't read all of that, but it's funny.

CONNER_NWHC 12-04-2004 04:51 PM

Yeah i didnt read all of it either, someone sent it to me.

Silvermedalmafia 12-04-2004 04:52 PM

51) You don't go to hardcore concerts, you go to hardcore shows. BIG difference

that reminded me of reiner and newkindofarmy, the sceney bastards. And the hoodie one too.

CONNER_NWHC 12-04-2004 04:54 PM

Yeah there all SO true.

NewKindofArmy03 12-04-2004 06:36 PM

[QUOTE=Silvermedalmafia]51) You don't go to hardcore concerts, you go to hardcore shows. BIG difference

that reminded me of reiner and newkindofarmy, the sceney bastards. And the hoodie one too.[/QUOTE]
Hahaha. I'm not scene at all though.

Let's Chop Cats! 12-04-2004 06:40 PM

The only scene thing I do is wear a hoodie alot, which I did before I even started listening to hardcore. I might get a carabeaner to hold my car keys.

The biggest scene trends are:
Camo shorts
hoodies
carabeaners for keys

NewKindofArmy03 12-04-2004 06:41 PM

Good news, Bars are releasing a 5 song EP in March.

Let's Chop Cats! 12-04-2004 06:44 PM

Yes!

capri sun junkie 12-04-2004 06:57 PM

Hooded sweatshirts are uncomfortable as phuck. Zip ups aren't so bad though.

cbmartinez 12-04-2004 07:31 PM

[QUOTE=Sk8SkaNJ]AHhH!! Most of those bands suck. NHE has the worst crowd in the world, the people are effing retarded.[/QUOTE]

:(

I heard that about NHE. But those other bands were good, especially The Dead Season.

CONNER_NWHC 12-04-2004 07:32 PM

[QUOTE=Sk8SkaNJ]The only scene thing I do is wear a hoodie alot, which I did before I even started listening to hardcore. I might get a carabeaner to hold my car keys.

The biggest scene trends are:
Camo shorts
hoodies
carabeaners for keys[/QUOTE]
I wear i hoddie all the time pretty much.

NewKindofArmy03 12-04-2004 07:44 PM

Same here, I hate big winter jackets. I wear them when I go sledding though.

Let's Chop Cats! 12-04-2004 07:48 PM

I started wearing my hoodie in like the middle of September. I'll probably wear it till May-ish. Then I breakout the shorts. I think I'm going to get a Casey Jones hoodie when they come around.

I wear a jacket when I go snowboarding.

NewKindofArmy03 12-04-2004 07:49 PM

I hope Blacklisted has them on the 26th.

CONNER_NWHC 12-04-2004 07:50 PM

Im getting a outbreak hoddie on wensday.

NewKindofArmy03 12-04-2004 07:57 PM

What's the difference between an EP and an MCD? Bars is releasing an MCD.

A-Life-Less-Plagued 12-04-2004 08:43 PM

MCDs are...longer...like around 8 tracks, EPs are around 3-6

BuddyBigsby 12-04-2004 09:24 PM

[QUOTE=D0dg3r (NL)]I haven't read the whole topic [it's way too big. :P], but I've been reorganizing my music lately [I haven't done too much yet], and I was wondering how you guys would 'label' the following bands:

36 Crazyfists
A Static Lullaby - I was thinking about Emo Hardcore [does that even exist ?],
Alexisonfire - I was thinking about Metalcore.
Funeral for a Friend - I was thinking about Post Hardcore.

I'll ask a couple of other bands next time, when I reorganized more stuff, if you guys can help me out.

[B][EDIT] I forgot about Hawthorne Heights... [EDIT][/B][/QUOTE]

36CF - Nu-metal making a cheap attempt at playing poppy pseudo-emocore
Alexisonfire - Melodic pop-punk
ASL, Funeral For a Friend, and Hawthorne Heights - Crap

Let's Chop Cats! 12-04-2004 10:47 PM

Shai Hulud News
 
To Sum It Up:

- a "comprehensive retrospective" cd including original demo with Damien Moyal singing, Chad's first recording with the band, live songs, and outtakes. release date Jan or Feb of 2005

- Hearts Once Nourished remastered re-issue, including their 2 EP's/splits and possibly some other tracks pending labels' permission, all on one disc.
release date TBA, but sooner than expected.

- DVD release date TBA.

- The Warmth of Red Blood (new band) has narrowed down vocal search to a few people, and they're written 3 songs.
expect an album sometime this decade.

- Zombie Apocalypse to release 5-songs on a split with Send More Paramedics

[url]http://www.hulud.com/[/url]

BuddyBigsby 12-04-2004 10:56 PM

I wish I could sing for them and then be the guy that ruined Shai Hulud.

Let's Chop Cats! 12-04-2004 10:56 PM

Hahahah.

NewKindofArmy03 12-04-2004 11:18 PM

I hate tickmaster, it was my first time getting tickets from there and they have a 4.75 conveinence charge, and a 4.75 processing charge.

shane italian 12-04-2004 11:22 PM

[QUOTE=NewKindofArmy03]Same here, I hate big winter jackets. I wear them when I go sledding though.[/QUOTE]My friend moshes in a coat with furr lining.

BuddyBigsby 12-04-2004 11:23 PM

[QUOTE=NewKindofArmy03]I hate tickmaster, it was my first time getting tickets from there and they have a 4.75 conveinence charge, and a 4.75 processing charge.[/QUOTE]

Wah wah.

I had a 60% service charge for The Hope Conspiracy.

NewKindofArmy03 12-04-2004 11:24 PM

Overall, mine is 66.6 with a line over the 6 % extra.

Let's Chop Cats! 12-05-2004 12:07 AM

That is one of the reasons I've stoped going to punk shows, freaking surcharges and crap. And they never have tickets at the door. Luckily you don't need tickets to often around here.

Silvermedalmafia 12-05-2004 12:09 AM

[QUOTE=BuddyBigsby]Wah wah.

I had a 60% service charge for The Hope Conspiracy.[/QUOTE]
That sucks ballls. Anyone else gonna go to the Rise Against Vancouver date?

NewKindofArmy03 12-05-2004 12:14 AM

[QUOTE=Sk8SkaNJ]That is one of the reasons I've stoped going to punk shows, freaking surcharges and crap. And they never have tickets at the door. Luckily you don't need tickets to often around here.[/QUOTE]
I got them for Stillborn fest, because I'm guessing it will sell out sometime.

Let's Chop Cats! 12-05-2004 12:15 AM

Yeah, I had to get them for Hellfest. Do you go to shows alot at the Troc?

NewKindofArmy03 12-05-2004 12:17 AM

I've been to 2 shows there.

Let's Chop Cats! 12-05-2004 12:18 AM

Is that place any good? My friend goes there sometimes.

NewKindofArmy03 12-05-2004 12:21 AM

Everybody hates it now. I don't like it that much, I hate when there's a divider that has you 5 feet from the stage. They have no re-entry too, and I hate shows with that. I guess since it's not a venue with small bands, they don't want hundreds of people standing on the sidewalk outside.

Let's Chop Cats! 12-05-2004 12:22 AM

Yeah, that sucks I hate when venues have barriers. Another reason why I stopped going to punk shows.


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