add Spectrum to the list as well

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU0e7q4h6Qk[/url]

note to self pick up from A Split Second - Close Combat tomorrow

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFPqltJ17aI[/url]

I've never been so angry about finding new music

where does A Split Second fit in with the New Beat scene?

getting some 23 Skidoo

[I] The Culling is Coming[/I] is awesome, a lot like early TG

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPg3Pjj8tf4[/url]

[QUOTE=Meatplow;18275544]where does A Split Second fit in with the New Beat scene?[/QUOTE]

idk prolly nothing

the thing is I favourited an A Split Second video and wanted to go through all the related vidyas

one day I should just go through cornupedo's videos systematically, one by one

[quote]Legend has it that the Belgian New Beat genre was invented in the nightclub Boccaccio in Destelbergen near Ghent when DJ Marc Grouls played a 45rpm EBM record at 33rpm, with the pitch control set to +8. The track in question was Flesh by A Split-Second.[/quote]

well there you go

23 Skidoo's first album has to be the best first wave industrial/post-punk album i've heard in a long time

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjtXNNyHEbI[/url]

what I wish Cripples Crossing Highways sounded like

Negativland is also missing from the list

[QUOTE=Adolf Neudecker II;18275068][img]http://www.chemistryland.com/CHM130W/18-Final/OralExam/SulfuricAcid.jpg[/img]

[img]http://library.thinkquest.org/05aug/00461/images/granite.jpg[/img]

[B][I][size=7]ACID RAWK[/size][/I][/B][/QUOTE]

damn mr hitler, i like that acid

just call me "ron" ;)

why can't you troll me into oblivion instead of Ron I think i'd rather enjoy it

anyone into jazzy electronic stuff get 23 Skidoo's self-titled 2000 album, it is so good.

fuck forgot how good Messiah is, why did you have to link me to that video the other day Chris

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-prVZR5jAg[/url]

might be another one for your list chris

[url]http://voxinsana.blogspot.com/2009/06/2nd-communication-my-chromosomal-friend.html[/url]

this isn't bad

eww early 3D rendering

oh yes

I sort of like that blocky analogue sound sometimes though

yes me to buddy its great

[url]http://crispynuggets.blogspot.com/2009/04/3-miles-from-here-heroes-until-then-7.html[/url]

love the wealth of EBM and New Wave artists that only ever released one single

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88hZBOmNnNU[/url]

spacesynth rules

7 From Life is a pretty good dark ambient/noise project in the vein of Maurizio Bianchi

Zewizz has a few side projects that weren't on your list too, Chris

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Zewizz[/url]

[quote]Zewizz admits that drugs played a large role in his life from the age of 14. During the 1990s he was addicted to heroin and by 2001 his music career had all but stopped because of this addiction. According to himself he was able to get clean in 2004 through use of "magick". Zewizz claims, "I had to use magick to break the bonds that drugs had on me. It waz part ov my being. Drugs became my world and everything in it. Only magick waz strong enough to focus my will and to direct my will into power."[/quote]

cool

been listening to deathprod like nuts, but cant find any vinyl to buy except a remix 10"

sucks the label only releases it on CD

yeah i've been wanting to get a vinyl and cassette deck set-up for ages, so much stuff I either can't find online or in terrible quality

have you heard 23 skidoo kitsch I remember you looking for post-punk a while back

[I]We're disposable teens
We're disposable teens
We're disposable!!![/I]

lol I remember when Marylin Manson was actually considered "dangerous" and a "moral threat" back in the 90s. Now he is so tame.




Anyways, I may be driving down to NYC in December to see Rammstein with some friends.

Nah I mean his last couple albums were.

Well I mean he was basically blamed for tons of things which was just hilarious. People love to throw blame where it doesn't belong.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hGXqugSdEc[/url]

haujobb heil

[QUOTE=APirate;18282370]the album essentially sounds how the 3D looks

you know like in the 80s when people always tried to be ahead of their time but kind of failed[/QUOTE]

read a book called [I]Software[/I] by Rudy Rucker, written 1987

makes a reference to "memory RNA" at one point

I lulled

[QUOTE=Mr. Ron;18286877]Well I mean he was basically blamed for tons of things which was just hilarious. People love to throw blame where it doesn't belong.[/QUOTE]

"What I'm saying is that how big something is matters. How it is portrayed, matters. If it reaches a certain level of influence and is ingrained into the culture, then yes, I think it can have negative outcomes."

Mr. Ron talking about the deleterious effects of jungle ****** music

it's ok when Marilyn Manson does it because he's white

here's some hip hop rap music

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_RbcQVM_k0[/url]

u mad?

lol wait dude, do you have some sort of file with what I say here, because if so that is disturbing.


There is a difference. Manson cannot be blamed for what happened at Columbine because those kids were emotionally disturbed. Just as a rapper cannot be directly blamed for some wannabe gangster emulates their violent lyrics. People who are willing to do such things would probably have done them regardless of the music. It was the kid's fault, not Manson's. Sure, Manson's music probably shaped part of their outlook since music in general does that anyways in varying degrees (not in every instance, though). However, [B]they themselves[/B] and probably their parents are ultimately responsible for their actions.

Rap culture and even metal culture, in certain situations is more or less indirectly responsible for certain culture attitudes since, as I have said before, it is massively popular in the mainstream and it's messages are readily available to be emulated. It is cool to emulate. Different people respond differently to music, since it [I]is[/I] a powerful medium of expression. Now, I'm not saying rap is [I]directly[/I] responsible for what people do, but it only takes a few minutes to look at how the culture does influence certain attitudes. I will say the [I]same[/I] thing for metal. Unstable people who listen to violent metal will probably also be effected in negative ways as well. So when I say people were unjustly putting the blame on Manson, I mean that he cannot be blamed 100% for what those kids did. Neither can you put 100% of the blame on more violent rap music. If you're willing to splatter your classmates across the gymnasium and hurl pipe bombs in the library, there are already serious underlying factors that made you do those things that do not [I]necessarily [/I]involve what you listen to.

[QUOTE=Mr. Ron;18287496]lol wait dude, do you have some sort of file with what I say here, because if so that is disturbing.[/quote]

no I just have a beartrap memory

[QUOTE=Mr. Ron;18287496]Rap culture and even metal culture, in certain situations is more or less indirectly responsible for certain culture attitudes[/QUOTE]
[list=1][*]show evidence for this claim[*]why do you always whinge about hip hop ****** culture but never about white metal bands[/list]

You seriously want evidence if music can shape subcultures?


really?



wut

Well that goes without saying

What I want evidence for is the claim that it can have pervasive negative effects

I will remind you at this juncture that acting incredulous in the face of such a request is called:

[url]http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/begging-the-question.html[/url]